I agree. It would not surprise me if Nilsson turns out to be the better goalie.
- ses111

I've been saying that for about a year now

sarcasm isnt your thing, is it?
- LetsGoIsles

??

I've been saying that for about a year now
- eichiefs9

You and me both, I was told I was nuts 2 seasons ago when I said that.


XxNYIxX

Garth is going to have to make trade with this overstocked prospect pool
Moulson-JT-xx
Niño-strome-xx
Grabs-Nielsen-xx
Martin-cizikas/ulstrom-xx

Now insert in 3 years
Okposo, bailey, kabby, nelson, lee & petrov if they come, sundstrom, persson, joenseu

Defense

Hammer is the only lock, with Donovan a close lock for at least 3rd pair

Xx-hammer
Xx-xx
Xx- Donovan

Now insert: mayfield, reinhart, pedan, pelech, pokka are all on pace to make the NHL eventually

Garth is going to have to make trade with this overstocked prospect pool
Moulson-JT-xx
Niño-strome-xx
Grabs-Nielsen-xx
Martin-cizikas/ulstrom-xx

Now insert in 3 years
Okposo, bailey, kabby, nelson, lee & petrov if they come, sundstrom, persson, joenseu

Defense

Hammer is the only lock, with Donovan a close lock for at least 3rd pair

Xx-hammer
Xx-xx
Xx- Donovan

Now insert: mayfield, reinhart, pedan, pelech, pokka are all on pace to make the NHL eventually
- Danformo

Dude, im good but I cant play triple shifted, and D is not my strong suit.. so keep me off the back end.

Garth is going to have to make trade with this overstocked prospect pool
Moulson-JT-xx
Niño-strome-xx
Grabs-Nielsen-xx
Martin-cizikas/ulstrom-xx

Now insert in 3 years
Okposo, bailey, kabby, nelson, lee & petrov if they come, sundstrom, persson, joenseu

Defense

Hammer is the only lock, with Donovan a close lock for at least 3rd pair

Xx-hammer
Xx-xx
Xx- Donovan

Now insert: mayfield, reinhart, pedan, pelech, pokka are all on pace to make the NHL eventually
- Danformo

would not be shocked if some of our NHL talent gets traded away for either a D-man or another superstar player....
just my opinion, but I could see Okoposo, Grabner, Bailey, Nielsen being the players traded away, and would not miss them either......

Dude, im good but I cant play triple shifted, and D is not my strong suit.. so keep me off the back end.
- XxNYIxX

would not be shocked if some of our NHL talent gets traded away for either a D-man or another superstar player....
just my opinion, but I could see Okoposo, Grabner, Bailey, Nielsen being the players traded away, and would not miss them either......
- Ur Not Me

You're crazy if you wouldn't miss Nielsen. And none of those other 3 are going to bring back very much of value.

You're crazy if you wouldn't miss Nielsen. And none of those other 3 are going to bring back very much of value.
- eichiefs9

Strome, Nelson, Cizikas, Sundstrom,
No, not gonna miss Neilson, even tho, Cizikas is being groomed to be his replacement defensively, and the other 3 centers probably have better scoring ability.....
Trust me, u wont miss him either......

Strome, Nelson, Cizikas, Sundstrom,
No, not gonna miss Neilson, even tho, Cizikas is being groomed to be his replacement defensively, and the other 3 centers probably have better scoring ability.....
Trust me, u wont miss him either......
- Ur Not Me

I get it, but Cizikas hasn't proven a single thing at the NHL level. I'm not trading a top-10 defensive forward in the league because we might have a potential replacement for him. Not to mention Cizikas is perfectly capable of shifting to wing and playing with Nielsen. Nelson and Sundstrom are more than likely going to be wingers also.

I get it, but Cizikas hasn't proven a single thing at the NHL level. I'm not trading a top-10 defensive forward in the league because we might have a potential replacement for him. Not to mention Cizikas is perfectly capable of shifting to wing and playing with Nielsen. Nelson and Sundstrom are more than likely going to be wingers also.
- eichiefs9

I understand where you are coming from, but to get something of value, you have to give up something......would u trade Neilson and Okoposo for B.Ryan? or even a very good D-man, I would in a second...
also I believe we have to many wingers in the system, Kabanov, Nino, Lee, Petrov, Pearsson, Ullstrom, but I do believe Strome will be moved to wing

I understand where you are coming from, but to get something of value, you have to give up something......would u trade Neilson and Okoposo for B.Ryan? or even a very good D-man, I would in a second...
also I believe we have to many wingers in the system, Kabanov, Nino, Lee, Petrov, Pearsson, Ullstrom, but I do believe Strome will be moved to wing
- Ur Not Me

Of course I would trade Nielsen and Okposo for Ryan, but Bob Murray would have to be smoking some seriously potent crack to make that trade.

I also don't think that Strome will be moved to the wing.

Dude, im good but I cant play triple shifted, and D is not my strong suit.. so keep me off the back end.
- XxNYIxX

Of course I would trade Nielsen and Okposo for Ryan, but Bob Murray would have to be smoking some seriously potent crack to make that trade.

I also don't think that Strome will be moved to the wing.
- eichiefs9

Neilson would be missed. Also don't forget he is the all time leader in shootout pct. which is becoming more important every year. He had just 2 lless points than Danny briere
Last season and as you mentioned is a top defensive forward. Currently I think the isles forwards in general are putrid in their own end which puts a lot of pressure on the crappy d we have had. Neilson was signed for a long term deal for a reason. They want him here

Nielsen is probably the 4th most important player on this team (1 JT 2 moul 3 hammer) I never wanna lose Nielsen

But also I don't want to give up on grabs yet, he scored 34 goals before you know

I get it, but Cizikas hasn't proven a single thing at the NHL level. I'm not trading a top-10 defensive forward in the league because we might have a potential replacement for him. Not to mention Cizikas is perfectly capable of shifting to wing and playing with Nielsen. Nelson and Sundstrom are more than likely going to be wingers also.
- eichiefs9

THANK YOU!!! also you could move cizikas to wing...nielsen cizikas martin/ullstrom would be a good line

You and me both, I was told I was nuts 2 seasons ago when I said that.


XxNYIxX
- XxNYIxX

I can back you up on that one. I clearly remember the both of you saying it a while ago.

would not be shocked if some of our NHL talent gets traded away for either a D-man or another superstar player....just my opinion, but I could see Okoposo, Grabner, Bailey, Nielsen being the players traded away, and would not miss them either......
- Ur Not Me

just saying....

Of course I would trade Nielsen and Okposo for Ryan, but Bob Murray would have to be smoking some seriously potent crack to make that trade.I also don't think that Strome will be moved to the wing.
- eichiefs9

I don't think crack would do it. He would have to be lobotomized as well as have an on going crack addiction.

I get it, but Cizikas hasn't proven a single thing at the NHL level. I'm not trading a top-10 defensive forward in the league because we might have a potential replacement for him. Not to mention Cizikas is perfectly capable of shifting to wing and playing with Nielsen. Nelson and Sundstrom are more than likely going to be wingers also.
- eichiefs9

This is one of the more intelligent things that has been posted on here for a while.

Garth is going to have to make trade with this overstocked prospect pool
Moulson-JT-xx
Niño-strome-xx
Grabs-Nielsen-xx
Martin-cizikas/ulstrom-xx

Now insert in 3 years
Okposo, bailey, kabby, nelson, lee & petrov if they come, sundstrom, persson, joenseu

Defense

Hammer is the only lock, with Donovan a close lock for at least 3rd pair

Xx-hammer
Xx-xx
Xx- Donovan

Now insert: mayfield, reinhart, pedan, pelech, pokka are all on pace to make the NHL eventually
- Danformo

You sound like an Oilers fan. It's great to be optimistic, but what percentage of prospects go on to make the NHL? What percentage of NHLers are impact players?

You sound like an Oilers fan. It's great to be optimistic, but what percentage of prospects go on to make the NHL? What percentage of NHLers are impact players?
- Coburns_Nose

I know that without a group of quality prospects, you have a whole lot less chance of finding that / those solid NHL players..

I bet every other team wished they had the Isles / Oilers prospects.

I know that without a group of quality prospects, you have a whole lot less chance of finding that / those solid NHL players..

I bet every other team wished they had the Isles / Oilers prospects.
- bixll

Not to mention, prospects are assets, which can be used as trade bait. I think the original post about all the isles prospects, was that Garth is eventually going to have to deal someone.

Not to mention, prospects are assets, which can be used as trade bait. I think the original post about all the isles prospects, was that Garth is eventually going to have to deal someone.
- kindlyrick

As he should, that is the beauty of build a war chest of prospects in the first place..

As I said here for years, build the foundation of your team and the rest will come. Most great teams have great farm systems..

As he should, that is the beauty of build a war chest of prospects in the first place..

As I said here for years, build the foundation of your team and the rest will come. Most great teams have great farm systems..
- bixll

Naturally........but Garths problem is he hasnt shown an ability to decipher who is part of the plan going forward, and who is expendable. He just keeps everyone. Its time he makes a move......and really puts his brush strokes on the painting. ANyone can just keep drafting and drafting, but he's gotta mold this, and put his stamp on it......its his team.