they knew when they signed though that the new CBA was going to possibly effect their pay roles, hence why GM's 'may' have tossed out more money.

though i do agree, i think the players should be honored that money...but there is no denying they didnt know when they signed the dotted line that this was going to happen.
- big_dion

I agree, if you sign a contract, you should honour it..

Palyers too....when they sign a big fat deal, they should stay in shape and play to the level they were signed at, or take a reduction accordingly.

they knew they would have to fight for it at the very least.

the league is making this too complex...

the simple solution would be to have the cap hit equal the payout and stop averaging it over the length of the contract.

loop hole closed.
- Dozzer

the NHL is being such a baby about this whole thing, pound out the (frank)in deal and lets drop the puck, this is so childish.

players lose no matter what, owners cant lose here...players dont play all season, whammy there goes a year off their career's and millions down the drain. owners (some of them, dont lose millions) and others like TO lose hundreds just because we are not playing hockey.

not to mention everything else attached to it...bars, restaurants, beer sales, chicken wings! lol - it all adds up.

its brutal.

I thought so.. funny.
- bixll

It's true though.

If it was that easy then a combination of revenue sharing increase and cap lowering should be able to make that happen quickly.
- Cfser

the players would never want to see a reduction in the cap tho

that and the teams who lost money werent operating at the cap anyways.

Focusing on a win and not seeing the team's weaknesses and where they need to improve, that's Leaf management...

But in all seriousness, haven't you gotten tired of watching the Leafs blow 2-3 goal leads and losing critical points when chasing a playoff spot? It's happened so much these last few years, a 3 goal lead means nothing to me when watching them play.
- 13sundin13

They had a lengthy streak of third period comebacks early last year, if I recall.

the NHL is being such a baby about this whole thing, pound out the (frank)in deal and lets drop the puck, this is so childish.

players lose no matter what, owners cant lose here...players dont play all season, whammy there goes a year off their career's and millions down the drain. owners (some of them, dont lose millions) and others like TO lose hundreds just because we are not playing hockey.

not to mention everything else attached to it...bars, restaurants, beer sales, chicken wings! lol - it all adds up.

its brutal.
- big_dion

the owners can lose.

by signing a cba similar to the last one they continue losing money

if i was an owner i would simply say (frank) that.

right now the owners need star players to draw a crowd..

they cant do that unless they sign deals that but them into the red.

so dont sign those deals?

then the fans stop coming because their teams arent competitive

so they sign those deals.. and lose money that way

right now the owners have a choice of signing deals that lose them money, or give up having players with drawing power and then their attendance goes down.. and they lose money

It's true though.
- AdamFrench

Yes, that is the sad part of that..

of the 3 points mentioned by Fehr,

- who is paying for the lockout is # 3.. The Fans is the answer..

But do they really expect to be compensated for this??

i know its shopped but it still makes me laugh

i know its shopped but it still makes me laugh
- Dozzer

Halo 4

Halo 4
- AdamFrench

never played it.. is that where its from?

never played it.. is that where its from?
- Dozzer

no, but I love it

no, but I love it
- AdamFrench

lol

good game i take it? is it one of those series that you need to start with 1 or can you jump right in wherever?

Why is it bound to happen? Why is it logical for a team to lose a four goal lead? It's not logical to NHL teams who have any aspirations to make the playoffs and it shouldn't be logical for these guys. I'm happy they won, but disappointed they couldn't put together a complete game, something the organization has struggled with since the last lockout.
- 13sundin13

It's bound to happen because the Barons have a handful of LEGIT NHL STARS playing for their team. Nuge, Hall, and Eberle are already big time NHL guys.

They're big name players in a lesser league. They're going to light it up.

lol

good game i take it? is it one of those series that you need to start with 1 or can you jump right in wherever?
- Dozzer

I never played the others. It's pretty sick, great multiplayer. Only issue is that like MW3 they seem to have bought the "Killcam that doesn't show what happened." Not sure how games can f up a technology they've had that was perfectly fine since like 2007 with Cod 4

I never played the others. It's pretty sick, great multiplayer. Only issue is that like MW3 they seem to have bought the "Killcam that doesn't show what happened." Not sure how games can f up a technology they've had that was perfectly fine since like 2007 with Cod 4
- AdamFrench

lol i've yet to experience it.. been hoping the release of black ops 2 was going to drop the price for mw3... not yet... not yet

lol i've yet to experience it.. been hoping the release of black ops 2 was going to drop the price for mw3... not yet... not yet
- Dozzer

Don't buy MW3, it's a poop game compared to Black Ops 1, Cod 4 and MW2. I'm going to wait a few weeks playing Halo before I buy Black Ops 2.

Don't buy MW3, it's a poop game compared to Black Ops 1, Cod 4 and MW2. I'm going to wait a few weeks playing Halo before I buy Black Ops 2.
- AdamFrench

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YM4RQHgYpow

you ever watch this guy? hilarious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YM4RQHgYpow

you ever watch this guy? hilarious.
- Dozzer

Elpresador is better

lol i've yet to experience it.. been hoping the release of black ops 2 was going to drop the price for mw3... not yet... not yet
- Dozzer

bruce

i HATE MW3

im going to buy the new black ops soon, id suggest NOT buying MW3, i hated it with passion, i quit it after about a month.

bruce

i HATE MW3

im going to buy the new black ops soon, id suggest NOT buying MW3, i hated it with passion, i quit it after about a month.
- big_dion

looks like you guys just saved me some coin

Elpresador is better
- AdamFrench

i'll have to check that out

Elpresador is better
- AdamFrench

who the (frank) is this guy?!

i'll have to check that out
- Dozzer

He's just an angry gamer who's insane

He's just an angry gamer who's insane
- AdamFrench

he seems pretty pissed about "flying soldiers"