F@#king Ron Wilson at it again
- senstroll

actually this year Eakins changed the defensive systems to match up with Carlyle's

which leaves wondering if the the leafs have the right personnel throughout the system to play the kind of defense Carlyle likes to implement

Hence why Komi will stay IMO
- JIMI-JAMES

yup... i'm no komi fan but unless someone else is brought in.. komi will likely get his fair share of ice time this season...

if there is a season....

Hence why Komi will stay IMO
- JIMI-JAMES

Komi isn't a defensive defender.

yup... i'm no komi fan but unless someone else is brought in.. komi will likely get his fair share of ice time this season...

if there is a season....
- Dozzer

Not looking good, IMO

Komi isn't a defensive defender.
- AdamFrench

I'll bite, what type would you classify him as?

It's excting though.
- walshyleafsfan1

Follow your nose!

“Guys aren’t going to give in when it comes to contracts now, it’s not going to happen,” Crosby said. “It’s not money, it’s the rights as a player within your profession, that’s what I think guys are definitely going to stand strong on. And it’s ridiculous to try to change that after the success of the league that everybody’s had here the last seven or eight years.”

you mean the owners arent lining up to get the game going again when 60% of the league was in the red last year?

its really quite simple why the NHL and PA cant get this done... the league wants all of its franchises earning money and only have a couple teams in the red at most.. so they look at things from a team by team perspective..... the players on the other hand view the league as a single business.

the players need to adjust their thinking.... period... the NHL is not one business, its 30, and 18 of those businesses lost money last year.

not surprised at all that the owners arent in any big hurry to continue losing money.

Komi isn't a defensive defender.
- AdamFrench

he tries to be lol

Not looking good, IMO
- bixll

the season being saved or komi getting a large chunk of ice time?

or both? lol

Komi isn't a defensive defender.
- AdamFrench

let the polack have his dream frenchie

I'll bite, what type would you classify him as?
- bixll

A pylon that skates like as fast as a glacier, moves like he has gout, can't fight anybody over 5'10, handles the puck like a land mine and despite a reputation for clearing the crease has only been found once in there and its because he fell on top of the goalie.

“Guys aren’t going to give in when it comes to contracts now, it’s not going to happen,” Crosby said. “It’s not money, it’s the rights as a player within your profession, that’s what I think guys are definitely going to stand strong on. And it’s ridiculous to try to change that after the success of the league that everybody’s had here the last seven or eight years.”

you mean the owners arent lining up to get the game going again when 60% of the league was in the red last year?

its really quite simple why the NHL and PA cant get this done... the league wants all of its franchises earning money and only have a couple teams in the red at most.. so they look at things from a team by team perspective..... the players on the other hand view the league as a single business.

the players need to adjust their thinking.... period... the NHL is not one business, its 30, and 18 of those businesses lost money last year.

not surprised at all that the owners arent in any big hurry to continue losing money.
- Dozzer

What Crosby really meant was.

"This lockout doesn't affect me as I have major sponsorship deals and make 9 mil in salary usually anyways so it totally isn't about money for me. We stars with our multimillion dollar salaries will stand strong...totally not for the money. We are the 1%! Screw you fringe 4th liners, enjoy the AHL/KHL nerds!"

A pylon that skates like as fast as a glacier, moves like he has gout, can't fight anybody over 5'10, handles the puck like a land mine and despite a reputation for clearing the crease has only been found once in there and its because he fell on top of the goalie.
- AdamFrench

dont forget his awesome passing and shooting skills

What Crosby really meant was.

"This lockout doesn't affect me as I have major sponsorship deals and make 9 mil in salary usually anyways so it totally isn't about money for me. We stars with our multimillion dollar salaries will stand strong...totally not for the money. We are the 1%! Screw you fringe 4th liners, enjoy the AHL/KHL nerds!"
- AdamFrench

the league needs to up its safety standards when it comes to the head... these players seem to have some damage between the ears..

30 businesses boys, not one.

the league needs to up its safety standards when it comes to the head... these players seem to have some damage between the ears..

30 businesses boys, not one.
- Dozzer

If they were smart (I'm sure Fehr is doing this) they would challenge that they have a right to those contracts as they were entered into legally and are binding. If the contracts are severed they can take it to court for breach of contract.

“Guys aren’t going to give in when it comes to contracts now, it’s not going to happen,” Crosby said. “It’s not money, it’s the rights as a player within your profession, that’s what I think guys are definitely going to stand strong on. And it’s ridiculous to try to change that after the success of the league that everybody’s had here the last seven or eight years.”

you mean the owners arent lining up to get the game going again when 60% of the league was in the red last year?

its really quite simple why the NHL and PA cant get this done... the league wants all of its franchises earning money and only have a couple teams in the red at most.. so they look at things from a team by team perspective..... the players on the other hand view the league as a single business.

the players need to adjust their thinking.... period... the NHL is not one business, its 30, and 18 of those businesses lost money last year.

not surprised at all that the owners arent in any big hurry to continue losing money.
- Dozzer

this is why i hate bettman and blame him for a big part of the problem. the teams losing a lot of money which are crying for help are the ones bettman forced into the league.

you have teams like toronto and montreal who make all the money, but where do we end up in the standings? 28th and 26th? whatever the hell it was, its horrible. yet phoenix(how many times they been in semi's or finals?!) and other teams like columbus want us to help pay for them? (frank) that, remove these piece of poop teams that cant cut it, and reduce the number of players...OH NO, no no no....cant have that, PA doesnt want that, nor does the NHL...lets get 2 more teams! 8vs8vs8vs8 - perfect.

if both sides dont comprimise on this lockout the season is over, and id be interested to see how they solve it before next season...

i wonder how crosby would respond if someone asked him why doesnt he, and some of the other richer players, cover the losses for the fringe guys who actually need their pay cheques?

If they were smart (I'm sure Fehr is doing this) they would challenge that they have a right to those contracts as they were entered into legally and are binding. If the contracts are severed they can take it to court for breach of contract.
- AdamFrench

oh i agree with the players on that point

previously signed contracts should be honoured.

moving forward however is a different story

“Guys aren’t going to give in when it comes to contracts now, it’s not going to happen,” Crosby said. “It’s not money, it’s the rights as a player within your profession, that’s what I think guys are definitely going to stand strong on. And it’s ridiculous to try to change that after the success of the league that everybody’s had here the last seven or eight years.”

you mean the owners arent lining up to get the game going again when 60% of the league was in the red last year?

its really quite simple why the NHL and PA cant get this done... the league wants all of its franchises earning money and only have a couple teams in the red at most.. so they look at things from a team by team perspective..... the players on the other hand view the league as a single business.

the players need to adjust their thinking.... period... the NHL is not one business, its 30, and 18 of those businesses lost money last year.

not surprised at all that the owners arent in any big hurry to continue losing money.
- Dozzer

If it is 30 separate businesses then the owners are colluding against the players no?

oh i agree with the players on that point

previously signed contracts should be honoured.

moving forward however is a different story
- Dozzer

they knew when they signed though that the new CBA was going to possibly effect their pay roles, hence why GM's 'may' have tossed out more money.

though i do agree, i think the players should be honored that money...but there is no denying they didnt know when they signed the dotted line that this was going to happen.

this is why i hate bettman and blame him for a big part of the problem. the teams losing a lot of money which are crying for help are the ones bettman forced into the league.

you have teams like toronto and montreal who make all the money, but where do we end up in the standings? 28th and 26th? whatever the hell it was, its horrible. yet phoenix(how many times they been in semi's or finals?!) and other teams like columbus want us to help pay for them? (frank) that, remove these piece of poop teams that cant cut it, and reduce the number of players...OH NO, no no no....cant have that, PA doesnt want that, nor does the NHL...lets get 2 more teams! 8vs8vs8vs8 - perfect.

if both sides dont comprimise on this lockout the season is over, and id be interested to see how they solve it before next season...
- big_dion

those teams are more than just about their market tho... if the american tv deals and growth are important (and they are, thats where the money is) then the league needs to maintain regional locations.

here's the stupid thing

if the players somehow gave back 10million to each team then the number of teams operating in the red changes from 18 to 2.

2 is maintainable... and acceptable when it comes to managing financial losses from a league standpoint... 18 is simply way too much

If it is 30 separate businesses then the owners are colluding against the players no?
- Cfser

not at all.

the problem is not all the owners like those big contracts.. but there are some owners willing to hand them out.. why? cause they know they will be bailed out...

the league doesnt want this.. the league wants healthy franchises.. not a league of money losing operations continuously bailed out by the rich teams.

its unsustainable.. plain and simple.

they knew when they signed though that the new CBA was going to possibly effect their pay roles, hence why GM's 'may' have tossed out more money.

though i do agree, i think the players should be honored that money...but there is no denying they didnt know when they signed the dotted line that this was going to happen.
- big_dion

they knew they would have to fight for it at the very least.

the league is making this too complex...

the simple solution would be to have the cap hit equal the payout and stop averaging it over the length of the contract.

loop hole closed.

A pylon that skates like as fast as a glacier, moves like he has gout, can't fight anybody over 5'10, handles the puck like a land mine and despite a reputation for clearing the crease has only been found once in there and its because he fell on top of the goalie.
- AdamFrench

I thought so.. funny.

those teams are more than just about their market tho... if the american tv deals and growth are important (and they are, thats where the money is) then the league needs to maintain regional locations.

here's the stupid thing

if the players somehow gave back 10million to each team then the number of teams operating in the red changes from 18 to 2.

2 is maintainable... and acceptable when it comes to managing financial losses from a league standpoint... 18 is simply way too much
- Dozzer

If it was that easy then a combination of revenue sharing increase and cap lowering should be able to make that happen quickly.