Playoffs only? He was used as total depth for most of the season.
- prock

lol

lol
- mykokes

I actually didn't expect that. But he was used pretty close to a 7th dman for the entire season.

Hal Gill did what he did quite well in Toronto. He really was just in over his head, and got roasted for struggling in a spot he really shouldn't have been in, in the first place.

He was much more insulated in Pittsburgh.

Playoffs only? He was used as total depth for most of the season.
- prock

Injured for parts of the season.

But hey, who cares if he plays the most when it matters the most?

I actually didn't expect that. But he was used pretty close to a 7th dman for the entire season.
- prock

He wasn't. Gonchar and Boucher both played 25 games that year. Their average ice time was higher but Gill was in the top four when he was healthy. The playoffs proved that.

He wasn't. Gonchar and Boucher both played 25 games that year. Their average ice time was higher but Gill was in the top four when he was healthy. The playoffs proved that.
- Two_For_Truth

He averaged under 15 mins a night even strength. He was not top 4.

He averaged under 15 mins a night even strength. He was not top 4.
- prock

Orpik, Scuderi, Letang and Gill were the four highest averages who played more than 60 games. Gonchar and Boucher played only 25 games each.

But I guess in your world that's a 7th defender.

Orpik, Scuderi, Letang and Gill were the four highest averages who played more than 60 games. Gonchar and Boucher played only 25 games each.

But I guess in your world that's a 7th defender.
- Two_For_Truth

That's 50 games he wasn't.

That's 50 games he wasn't.
- prock

Explains why he was top four in the playoffs. Y'know, when it matters the most.

Right, right, I know, he was a 7th defender.

Really, you guys are squabling over Hal Gill. I know its dead around here, but come on, there are better things, like all these high scoring junior players in Kamloops.....are any of them worth burning a pick on?

Really, you guys are squabling over Hal Gill. I know its dead around here, but come on, there are better things, like all these high scoring junior players in Kamloops.....are any of them worth burning a pick on?
- mykokes

Lipon is the only one who isn't drafted.

And no, probably not.

Really, you guys are squabling over Hal Gill. I know its dead around here, but come on, there are better things, like all these high scoring junior players in Kamloops.....are any of them worth burning a pick on?
- mykokes

- AdamFrench

Not even Lipon? Boylen wrote some good things about him.

I know that the frenchie belongs to the habs. The irony of who I'm saying this to. Oops, Bozon is swiss?

Not even Lipon? Boylen wrote some good things about him.

I know that the frenchie belongs to the habs. The irony of who I'm saying this to. Oops, Bozon is swiss?
- mykokes

A guy turning 20 dominating the WHL. Sounds like a certain Shinnimin...a pile of crap currently.

A guy turning 20 dominating the WHL. Sounds like a certain Shinnimin...a pile of crap currently.
- AdamFrench

Tyler Johnson? Sometimes man, you might find a diamond. Beyond the numbers, sounds like Lipon is just a late bloomer. Also, is Myles Bell eligible still?

Tyler Johnson? Sometimes man, you might find a diamond. Beyond the numbers, sounds like Lipon is just a late bloomer. Also, is Myles Bell eligible still?
- mykokes

Bell is, guy was an easy late first rounder until he killed his GF in a drunk driving incident in his draft year. Guy should be drafted easily, he's amazing, but that bad judgement will follow him forever.

Bell is, guy was an easy late first rounder until he killed his GF in a drunk driving incident in his draft year. Guy should be drafted easily, he's amazing, but that bad judgement will follow him forever.
- AdamFrench

you didn't reply to the Tyler Johnson part Frechie

I'd grab Bell, I mean Heatley had a bunch of 50 goal seasons after killing his best friend.

you didn't reply to the Tyler Johnson part Frechie

I'd grab Bell, I mean Heatley had a bunch of 50 goal seasons after killing his best friend.
- mykokes

Dunno who he is

you didn't reply to the Tyler Johnson part Frechie

I'd grab Bell, I mean Heatley had a bunch of 50 goal seasons after killing his best friend.
- mykokes

LOL.

Dunno who he is
- AdamFrench

Season Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM +/- GP G A Pts PIM
2007-08 Spokane Chiefs WHL 69 13 22 35 34 17 21 5 3 8 24
2008-09 Spokane Chiefs WHL 62 26 35 61 52 26 12 5 3 8 8
2009-10 Spokane Chiefs WHL 64 36 35 71 32 14 7 3 5 8 0
2010-11 Spokane Chiefs WHL 71 53 62 115 48 27 14 7 7 14 9
2011-12 Norfolk Admirals AHL 75 31 37 68 28 17 14 6 8 14 6
2012-13 Syracuse Crunch AHL 8 6 4 10 8 1

Don't know how to embed hockeydb stats into HB.

Season Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM +/- GP G A Pts PIM
2007-08 Spokane Chiefs WHL 69 13 22 35 34 17 21 5 3 8 24
2008-09 Spokane Chiefs WHL 62 26 35 61 52 26 12 5 3 8 8
2009-10 Spokane Chiefs WHL 64 36 35 71 32 14 7 3 5 8 0
2010-11 Spokane Chiefs WHL 71 53 62 115 48 27 14 7 7 14 9
2011-12 Norfolk Admirals AHL 75 31 37 68 28 17 14 6 8 14 6
2012-13 Syracuse Crunch AHL 8 6 4 10 8 1

Don't know how to embed hockeydb stats into HB.
- mykokes

2008-09 Tri-City Americans WHL 64 12 13 25 69 9 | Playoffs 11 0 5 5 16 -2
2009-10 Tri-City Americans WHL 70 27 55 82 82 11 | Playoffs 22 8 17 25 29 1
2010-11 Tri-City Americans WHL 60 34 62 96 84 20 | Playoffs 10 4 7 11 16 0
2011-12 Tri-City Americans WHL 69 58 76 134 82 45 | Playoffs 15 7 16 23 28 7
2012-13 Portland Pirates AHL 8 2 2 4 12

Season Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM +/- GP G A Pts PIM
2007-08 Spokane Chiefs WHL 69 13 22 35 34 17 21 5 3 8 24
2008-09 Spokane Chiefs WHL 62 26 35 61 52 26 12 5 3 8 8
2009-10 Spokane Chiefs WHL 64 36 35 71 32 14 7 3 5 8 0
2010-11 Spokane Chiefs WHL 71 53 62 115 48 27 14 7 7 14 9
2011-12 Norfolk Admirals AHL 75 31 37 68 28 17 14 6 8 14 6
2012-13 Syracuse Crunch AHL 8 6 4 10 8 1

Don't know how to embed hockeydb stats into HB. But check out those AHL numbers on TJ.
- mykokes

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2008-09 Tri-City Americans WHL 64 12 13 25 69 9 | Playoffs 11 0 5 5 16 -2
2009-10 Tri-City Americans WHL 70 27 55 82 82 11 | Playoffs 22 8 17 25 29 1
2010-11 Tri-City Americans WHL 60 34 62 96 84 20 | Playoffs 10 4 7 11 16 0
2011-12 Tri-City Americans WHL 69 58 76 134 82 45 | Playoffs 15 7 16 23 28 7
2012-13 Portland Pirates AHL 8 2 2 4 12
- AdamFrench

If he notches 40 points as an AHL rook, that's not too bad.

Bell is, guy was an easy late first rounder until he killed his GF in a drunk driving incident in his draft year. Guy should be drafted easily, he's amazing, but that bad judgement will follow him forever.
- AdamFrench

Whoa, what!!

Hal Gill was not useless in Toronto. He was just playing a spot in the lineup that was way over his head. He was playing second pairing, like 20 minutes a night. For Pittsburgh, he barely hit the ice even strength, they played him very sparingly, and put him out there for a good portion of their PK minutes, and he ate them up nicely. These are things he did well in Toronto too, people just notice the glaring mistakes he made while he was playing big minutes even strength at full speed, which he couldn't handle.
- prock

Gill was being used just as he should have been and was doing a good job. But he wasn't putting up 40 points a season, so Toronto fans thought he was useless.

Whoa, what!!
- burn

Look up Myles Bell on google. Should tell you everything you're missing.