Well its not really working....................... This so called "stack" team is doing jack poop out there. Kadri is sleeping, blacker and holzer havent stepped up their game, only work horses i see out there is gardiner and mckegg and hamilton. Ashton is like a ghost out there, eakins doesnt play brad ross so we cant see his production, the goalies are absolute SH!T and i mean garbage. Owuya and scrivens are having it tough this year. Rynnas is only goalie with that game that impressed me.

This defense system is falling apart, our defense for the AHL is weak at the moment.
- Mapleleafs_91

So what you're saying is we need Weirdoh to perform his defense dance?

So what you're saying is we need Weirdoh to perform his defense dance?
- AdamFrench

only if its to the tune of neutron dance by the pointer sisters

i know.. last year they were playing a different system.. i personally think they are having a hard time adjusting.

i do however like the play of mckegg.. for all the knocks that kid gets he continues to impress me every step of the way through his development
- Dozzer

yeah i think so too, but you have to realize that our defense isnt the greatest. Gardiner and kostka have been impressing, but blacker and holzer really have to step up their game. At this point in time, i dont see all the hype of holzer making the leafs? Even blacker, ive always wanted to see blacker with the leafs will all his impressing pre-season games with the leafs, but his motivation is lacking clearly in the AHL.

Mckegg on the other hand is beast. Give the kid more ice time, he will produce. Sad enough i would want to say the same thing for brad ross, but someone doesnt like to play him for GOD knows what.

So what you're saying is we need Weirdoh to perform his defense dance?
- AdamFrench

yes.

yeah i think so too, but you have to realize that our defense isnt the greatest. Gardiner and kostka have been impressing, but blacker and holzer really have to step up their game. At this point in time, i dont see all the hype of holzer making the leafs? Even blacker, ive always wanted to see blacker with the leafs will all his impressing pre-season games with the leafs, but his motivation is lacking clearly in the AHL.

Mckegg on the other hand is beast. Give the kid more ice time, he will produce. Sad enough i would want to say the same thing for brad ross, but someone doesnt like to play him for GOD knows what.
- Mapleleafs_91

i imagine that if and when the NHL and the PA straightens their crap out some of those guys (gardiner) will make the jump to the leafs opening up more ice time for the younger guys just coming out of their development leagues

at least thats the hope..

I keep having a vision of Luongo pooping the bed ,the fans booing, and 9 years left on his contract....

i imagine that if and when the NHL and the PA straightens their crap out some of those guys (gardiner) will make the jump to the leafs opening up more ice time for the younger guys just coming out of their development leagues

at least thats the hope..
- Dozzer

Gardiner is already set in stone with the leafs. Its more filling in the final gap for the leafs if this season is resumed or if next season. To make some space for those guys your talking about.

We have:

Gunner Phaneuf

Gardiner Franson(if resigned)

Liles ___?____ (blacker/holzer/komi)

I keep having a vision of Luongo pooping the bed ,the fans booing, and 9 years left on his contract....
- stoned

Exactly.

Imagine how that is gonna feel, when, in year ONE he is clearly incapable of improving this team

... and we have 9 more years to look forward to.

why are the marlies sucking
- Mapleleafs_91

I wouldn't worry about it.

After the Marlies made it to the Calder Cup final last year, there were plenty of fans of other teams that assured me that the success of your AHL affiliate didn't matter.

I keep having a vision of Luongo pooping the bed ,the fans booing, and 9 years left on his contract....
- stoned

We will bury him in the minors.

I wouldn't worry about it.

After the Marlies made it to the Calder Cup final last year, there were plenty of fans of other teams that assured me that the success of your AHL affiliate didn't matter.
- Atomic Wedgie

It didn't for MTL when they won the calder cup in 2007

Interesting read:

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/...lden-for-nhl-players.html

Interesting read:

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/...lden-for-nhl-players.html
- Atomic Wedgie

If only the players could STFU and stop their constant whining...

If only the players could STFU and stop their constant whining...
- Symba007

I'm sure the few that are making the players look stupid are making a lot of the others facepalm really hard.

- pker2theend

Must have been a wicked goal.

I'm sure the few that are making the players look stupid are making a lot of the others facepalm really hard.
- markmark

I agree, not all of them are retarded, the union should ask them to limit their interaction with the media until this is done.

Cloutier started listing Oilers "untouchables", yesterday at 2:13 PM.

He is still going. He is on the street-meat vendors and meter maids.
- Aetherial

That guy is such a bad joke. Worst blogger on the internet. He has Jordan Shultz as "the next bobby orr" Christ!

oh hell.. if i banned every person that teased another poster harmlessly this board would be empty

you come to the leafs boards.. please wear your thicker skin.
- Dozzer

No I agree. I wasn't being serious, I was just saying the most annoying thing about the internet is the people who point out spelling errors. The second most annoying would be people who think being condescending counts as an argument.

Jordan Shultz
- Jimmy_Tea

I wouldn't worry about it.

After the Marlies made it to the Calder Cup final last year, there were plenty of fans of other teams that assured me that the success of your AHL affiliate didn't matter.
- Atomic Wedgie

You've misunderstood.
The 'success' doesn't matter but failure matters a whole lot.

*looks for image of Chara holding cup*

As a Leafs fan - please stop spewing this stuff. Seriously ... the whole put in the minors stuff just doesn't fly with Leaf management - just look at Crapasarek... Luongo, already older, probably feeling (justifiably) burned by what's happened in Vancouver.. isn not going to be motivated if he were to be traded ... and if he thinks Vancouver is tough place to play... Toronto would be a whole other league.

Its a bad contract, overpriced and carries the post 35 year old risk. That ALONE makes it bad, unattractive, regardless of how good or great anyone thinks Luongo is or has been.

There's no way anyone - except perhaps Pat Quinn would deal Bozak, Frattin and a pick for a declining, 33 year old goalie with 10 years (or whatever) left on his deal. Just won't happen.
- BorjeFan4Ever

I disagree. I'll leave the presposterous "spewing this crap" crap alone, because well, you don't need me to make you look bad for writing that. However, the Leafs have not put Komiserik in the minors because he hasnt been bad enough to go there and they havnt needed his cap space. Its a seriously spurious example. A better one would be to ask yourself where Jeff Finger has been playing. The Leafs can and will put dudes in the minors. Yes, the retirement thing could be a bit of a problem, but is worth the risk. And seriously, you think Bozak and Frattin is too much to pay for a hall of fame goalie in his prime? Wowzers dude.

Hey! Bruce Garrioch is on sportsnet!
That's why sportsnet sucks!

tossing a guy in the minors is more than just about money

if the leafs management get the reputation of dumping guys into the minors every time they dont pan out then it will become difficult to sign free agents.

players want to know their team will stick with them.. through the bad and good.

the is also the issue of bumping a prospect out of the AHL lineup.
- Dozzer

I disagree here too. If you don't perform you don't play, whether youre in the press box or the minors, the Leafs are not and never will make personel decisions based on what a potential FA might think. Do you really think Burke would give a rat's ass? Because if you do, I don't think you know Burke! Do you think Richards looked at the Rangers and said, hey I don't wanna go there cause of what they did to Wade Redden, or do you think he might have thought "I am Mike F'n Richards"? Cause, I don't think guys actually ever think theyll play bad enough to consider it. In reality, Burke has the best repuation for how he treats players and he still hasnt convinced a big name to come here because he refused to sign 12 year deals, so obviously money talks louder than good treatment and the threat of the minors is a factor so minor as to not warrent consideration.

?
- bloatedmosquito

I believe that would be an example of personification of the word wang.