But... but... Galchenyuk misses him...
- Dgrdnr

maybe not tho lolol

www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ydTYWE2xbA

Yes you do...read any thread about Yak, or any of the ones talking about trades involving him...this thread alone mentions 60goal scorer, franchise player, plus the fact that a Price AND Subban for Yak was thrown out there shows how much you overvalue him.
I would absolutely LOVE Yak, and think he will be great, but don't put him on the pedestal yet...
- BoBBeR56

dont confuse all of the oiler posters with the oiler blogger.

clouts said price and subban. it was pretty clear in the context it was a joke too. but either way, it was him.
clouts said 50-60 in his blog
clouts said franchise player in his blog.
clouts said klefbom is a sure fire star.
clouts said schultz is the next coffey.

i told u i've never expressed any of those sentiments, or know for sure one way or another if he's (yakupov) gonna be that good. i am however stoked to have him and feel confident about his future from what ive seen.. and u can quote me on that one!!

please dont presume to tell me how i feel or what i have or havent posted

Our blogger says most of that stuff you mouth breather. Taking Clouts seriously just makes you look stupid. Most of us have said, pretty much verbatim, that we are FINE with what we've got, Clouts blog trade idea was the result of one of the two biggest retards of twitter in hockeyinsiderr (incarceratedknob being the other) and Clouts should know better because its a senseless trade for both teams. Repeat, we have. Not. Said. That. Ridiculous. poop. We. Are. Fine. With. The. Young. Guys. We've. Got. Now take your derp elsewhere.

Jesus no wonder i dont come around here a lot anymore. Its stunning the level of stupidity that ca occur.
- sanfordnson

this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


you're an oiler fan, and you're telling him u dont think this way and haven't said such things. im an oiler fan, and im telling him i dont think that way and haven't said such things.

but yet hes telling us we think that way and have said such things......

The NHL season must be close to being saved if Clouts is starting to write these kinds of blogs again.

Montreal doesnt trade Subban. Edmonton doesnt trade Yakupov. Yak isnt enough to get Subban, and considering own zone coverage is the main defensive issue in Edmonton, Subban, good though he may be, does not really address this. Hes a minute eater and can put up points but Edmonton needs a more solid veteran type that can keep things calm, knock some heads and put up a few points.

Cheeseburgers...and fries.
- sanfordnson

what do you know an unbiased completely fair and reasonable reply that includes Subban and is NOT filled with unwaranted hate....to think such a thing was possible on Hockeybuzz....im in awe!

i salute you!


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anyways it seems to me that when it comes to the Oilers future at SOME point there wont be enough pucks on the ice for both Hall and Yaks....they have a very similar gimme the puck style....Yaks makes smarter plays but Hall will run you over....i dunno i dont think Oilers will be able to keep both if they want a cup...there's gonna have to be a sacrifice and so far my bet is Hall....because if you have a 50 goal scoring Yak (maybe) and a 40 goal scoring Ebs and an 70+ assist Nuge, then you can use Hall for D and goaltending

i realize it sounds crazy right now...but i jus dont see how they'l both be on the team that contends, i'd have said Yak would be the trade bait but only if Hall doesnt get another long injury in the next 2 years

what do you know an unbiased completely fair and reasonable reply that includes Subban and is NOT filled with unwaranted hate....to think such a thing was possible on Hockeybuzz....im in awe!

i salute you!


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anyways it seems to me that when it comes to the Oilers future at SOME point there wont be enough pucks on the ice for both Hall and Yaks....they have a very similar gimme the puck style....Yaks makes smarter plays but Hall will run you over....i dunno i dont think Oilers will be able to keep both if they want a cup...there's gonna have to be a sacrifice and so far my bet is Hall....because if you have a 50 goal scoring Yak (maybe) and a 40 goal scoring Ebs and an 70+ assist Nuge, then you can use Hall for D and goaltending

i realize it sounds crazy right now...but i jus dont see how they'l both be on the team that contends, i'd have said Yak would be the trade bait but only if Hall doesnt get another long injury in the next 2 years
- Habitants98

What's wrong with keeping both, one on each of the top lines. Other teams can have fun trying to match up against them.

What's wrong with keeping both, one on each of the top lines. Other teams can have fun trying to match up against them.
- robin_steele264

You’re crazy. Having two lines never works. It’s not like Crosby and Malkin ever won a cup. Or Datsyuk and Zetterberg.

You’re crazy. Having two lines never works. It’s not like Crosby and Malkin ever won a cup. Or Datsyuk and Zetterberg.
- prock

True.

True.
- robin_steele264

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True.
- robin_steele264

Having two top scoring lines of talent is pretty much a prerequisite these days. And this guy says "nah, you gotta get rid of em. Too many on one team."

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- AdamFrench

That didn't take long

What's wrong with keeping both, one on each of the top lines. Other teams can have fun trying to match up against them.
- robin_steele264

well no i agree that it'd be great to have both...but it would certainly shorten the timeframe of becoming a contender if you traded one for a few assets

at this rate the Oil are at risk of becoming the Hawks....but without the cup by the time the team has to be dismantled due to salary

because the D that Chi-town had (to compensate for not having a superstar goalie) is simply not there in Edmonton....plus the goalie as well...(for now) they've already paid 2 of em in Hall and Ebs....but are still far from emerging out of the west and it might be too taxing by the time the other players in OKC are ready

i think the main reason for that is cuz they were hoping a few of the guys still in OKC would emerge sooner...but theyre taking longer than was hoped....

You’re crazy. Having two lines never works. It’s not like Crosby and Malkin ever won a cup. Or Datsyuk and Zetterberg.
- prock

right because there was no, M-A Fleury and no Kris Letang....and forget about that other guy Nick Lidstrom....they didnt do much....just those 2 first lines....i remember now....

the oilers dont have any such players on D or in net....but ok

but hey its all good by the Time Shultz is your Letang Yak's be ready to receive his 7 mil....that'll work out!

well no i agree that it'd be great to have both...but it would certainly shorten the timeframe of becoming a contender if you traded one for a few assets

at this rate the Oil are at risk of becoming the Hawks....but without the cup by the time the team has to be dismantled due to salary

because the D that Chi-town had (to compensate for not having a superstar goalie) is simply not there in Edmonton....plus the goalie as well...(for now) they've already paid 2 of em in Hall and Ebs....but are still far from emerging out of the west and it might be too taxing by the time the other players in OKC are ready

i think the main reason for that is cuz they were hoping a few of the guys still in OKC would emerge sooner...but theyre taking longer than was hoped....
- Habitants98

Not really worried about future cap problems. Hawks are in fine shape with several stars signed.

All the top teams have good players making lots of money.

right because there was no, M-A Fleury and no Kris Letang....and forget about that other guy Nick Lidstrom....they didnt do much....just those 2 first lines....i remember now....

the oilers dont have any such players on D or in net....but ok

but hey its all good by the Time Shultz is your Letang Yak's be ready to receive his 7 mil....that'll work out!
- Habitants98

Better start moving them now in preparation for potential cap problems 3 years from now.

right because there was no, M-A Fleury and no Kris Letang....and forget about that other guy Nick Lidstrom....they didnt do much....just those 2 first lines....i remember now....

the oilers dont have any such players on D or in net....but ok

but hey its all good by the Time Shultz is your Letang Yak's be ready to receive his 7 mil....that'll work out!
- Habitants98

I know they don’t. But what’s the point of trading away the forwards you need to win a cup because you don’t have the D? That doesn’t really get you anywhere, other than short of the forwards you need to win a cup.

Not really worried about future cap problems. Hawks are in fine shape with several stars signed.

All the top teams have good players making lots of money.
- robin_steele264

that being said that Hawks team that can barely get out of the first round is NOT the team that won the cup and money is the reason simply put

Better start moving them now in preparation for potential cap problems 3 years from now.
- robin_steele264

uhhh...nope pretty sure THIS is what i said

anyways it seems to me that when it comes to the Oilers future at SOME point there wont be enough pucks on the ice for both Hall and Yaks....
- Habitants98

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imo the oilers Crosby and Malkin is Nuge and Ebs....could be Nuge and Hall...but im not convinced he wont miss 30 games a year....look how it went down on his first game back in OKC....there's no slowing down the Hall Train which is great...but not great

Better start moving them now in preparation for potential cap problems 3 years from now.
- robin_steele264

What is the price tag on an untouchable player?

If you are saying like 5-6 million, then that guy is nowhere untouchable.

So something has to give with this list of untouchables...

Silly Oilers fan...I love how Subban isn't better than a 19yr old who has never played in the NHL. PK has averaged 37pts in his first two seasons in the NHL, and was on the all rookie team, but he doesn't hold a candle to Yaks...
- BoBBeR56

Silly leafs fan, i love how Yakupov is destroying Malkins and Ovechkins scoring totals that they had as 18-19 year olds in the KHL during the last lockout, Yakupov is a gurantee

right because there was no, M-A Fleury and no Kris Letang....and forget about that other guy Nick Lidstrom....they didnt do much....just those 2 first lines....i remember now....

the oilers dont have any such players on D or in net....but ok

but hey its all good by the Time Shultz is your Letang Yak's be ready to receive his 7 mil....that'll work out!
- Habitants98

Double double

What is the price tag on an untouchable player?

If you are saying like 5-6 million, then that guy is nowhere untouchable.

So something has to give with this list of untouchables...
- Aetherial

I think people are taking the whole 'untouchable' thing way too literally.


How bout we call them the core players... ie the 6 best young guys the team is building around.

Could they be traded? Sure... But it's highly unlikely at least in the immediate future.

People need to stop using the word untouchable. I know cloutier started it in this thread, but the concept is dumb. In my opinion there are no more than 10-15 players in the LEAGUE who are truly untouchable, likely less. I'm thinking along the lines of Crosby, Ovechkin, Stamkos, Giroux and the Sedins. When cloutier talks about 'untouchables' on the Oilers, it basically means that no team would offer what our management would consider fair compensation for these players. Doesn't matter what other fans think would be fair, management has chosen these 6-7 to be the future core, and they aren't going anywhere unless there is an offer that just knocks Tambos socks off. Of course if Philly offered Giroux straight up for Hopkins or TB offered Stamkos for Hall you take it, but it won't happened. Oh and the actual core that I'm talking about is Hopkins, Yakupov, Eberle, Hall, JSchultz and Klefbom. And Hartikainen is close. Other than that everyone is available.

I think people are taking the whole 'untouchable' thing way too literally.


How bout we call them the core players... ie the 6 best young guys the team is building around.

Could they be traded? Sure... But it's highly unlikely at least in the immediate future.
- robin_steele264

Crazy talk from another insane Oiler Homer, saying that the top 6 Oiler draft picks in the last 3 years would be hard to trade for and may be "Untouchable".

Guess you guys will never have a top calibre player like Phil the Thrill!

Crazy talk from another insane Oiler Homer, saying that the top 6 Oiler draft picks in the last 3 years would be hard to trade for and may be "Untouchable".

Guess you guys will never have a top calibre player like Phil the Thrill!
- HuileHab

YOU HAVE TO TRADE THEM TO BE GOOD

Crazy talk from another insane Oiler Homer, saying that the top 6 Oiler draft picks in the last 3 years would be hard to trade for and may be "Untouchable".

Guess you guys will never have a top calibre player like Phil the Thrill!
- HuileHab

Kessel and a 4th for Subban, Price and Grigorenko.