Price and Subban. lol.

They are developing most of them as we speak...the draft portion to gain the core is done...and it sure don't take all that much to get. 3rd line Center...they have basically all the components in the system for Top 4 D and Goalies...
- OilHorse

So, what is needed. Just a 3rd line center and bottom 3?

They are developing most of them as we speak...the draft portion to gain the core is done...and it sure don't take all that much to get. 3rd line Center...they have basically all the components in the system for Top 4 D and Goalies...
- OilHorse

Yeah, if we dont mind waiting until Hall is 28 and coming back from his 3rd concussion until they become a contender....

I'll offer some advice for future rumors: The following players are untouchables in Edmonton - Jordan Eberle, Taylor Hall, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Justin Schultz, Nail Yakupov and Oscar Klefbom.

for a team that has been as historically bad as Edmonton these past 5-6 years to have such a deep list of "untouchables" is beyond arrogant. it's not like you're sitting with Malkin and Crosby. i'm not suggesting the Oilers swap Yakupov for something like Subban-Pacioretty, obviously. but to suggest that the club would never even consider trading one of these players is foolish. if a deal comes along that improves your team, you do it. you don't just stockpile for the sake of stockpiling. it's like saying "there's no one out there better than these guys or who will be better than these guys so we'll never trade them."

also, depending on what the new CBA looks like, the Oilers could be staring down the barrel of a gun in 2-3 years and might have to get proactive.
- DoubleDown

this is just it. we dont know that. u chose the 2 best players in the game to make your argument a little more convienent. but what if a few of them turn out to be top 5 players? or 3 of them in the top ten? even top 20?
would it be wise to deal them in that case??
of course not. lets just wait and see instead of jumping the gun.

and using the "u cant afford them, so deal them now" argument makes me want to bang my head against a wall.
its just silly.

oh, and 5-6 years? no playoffs certainly doesnt mean historically bad. in fact 2 of those years were barely misses.
year 3 of the total rebuild hasnt even begun.

if you're gonna attempt some passive aggressive disses, at least have your facts straight

Edm would never want a Hall for Seguin trade...and would hang up on Boston...
Ebs for Landi? Yeah I like Landi but not at the cost of Ebs.
Nuge for Tavares? I wouldn't if I were either team. Nuge is that good and byall accounts will be just as good as Tavares.
Kelfbaum and Hamilton: I agree just because Hamilton will also be a stud Dman that is already used to the NA style of hockey.
JSchultz for Letang: You use a guy who has never played in the NHL in comparison to a guy with 5 seasons experience. I feel pretty good that if Schultz gets a season in this year he will do as well as Letang did in his first full year.
- OilHorse

THIS!!!!

[quote=OilHorse]Not even close. Hall has out scored Seguin on a team he is expected to lead, where Seguin is allowed to get sheltered on a deeper, better team.

I think in the long run being sheltered and eased into a role will help Seguin. Unlike Hall who was thrown into a top line role and expected to produce on a bad team, Seguin was able to play less minutes and really spend time learning the pro game from the coaching staff. I think in terms of skill they are very close, but when it comes to experience Seguin has the edge. He has already battled through 2 postseasons and has a ring.

The NHL season must be close to being saved if Clouts is starting to write these kinds of blogs again.

Montreal doesnt trade Subban. Edmonton doesnt trade Yakupov. Yak isnt enough to get Subban, and considering own zone coverage is the main defensive issue in Edmonton, Subban, good though he may be, does not really address this. Hes a minute eater and can put up points but Edmonton needs a more solid veteran type that can keep things calm, knock some heads and put up a few points.

Cheeseburgers...and fries.

[quote=OilHorse]Not even close. Hall has out scored Seguin on a team he is expected to lead, where Seguin is allowed to get sheltered on a deeper, better team.

I think in the long run being sheltered and eased into a role will help Seguin. Unlike Hall who was thrown into a top line role and expected to produce on a bad team, Seguin was able to play less minutes and really spend time learning the pro game from the coaching staff. I think in terms of skill they are very close, but when it comes to experience Seguin has the edge. He has already battled through 2 postseasons and has a ring.
- fudd1689

Both are great players and neither team would trade one for the other.

Just like the Leaf fans that claim every new aquisition is going to be the new savior?

Leaf fans crown Burke the king, and every trade he has made or signing he has made since his arrival he has "won" according to Leaf fans. Yet they still stink and not one of you "saviors" has panned out. I rememeber the chantingwhen he traded for Brunnstrom...he's going to turn it around and light it up with the Leafs! you all said..
- Iggysbff

Not even close...there may be a couple retard Leaf fans who have said some of the stuff you spouted off about, but a majority of the fanbase doesn't say any of that...but the entire Oil fan base says that Yak is the best thing since sliced bread...franchise player, 60goal scorer, Hall of Famer, blah blah blah...
Burke hasn't won every trade he made...hello Kessel...Kessel is a great player and just turned 25 but Seguin, Hamilton and Knight for him...way too much.
I love how you just make poop up to try and sound like you have a clue...no one gave a poop when Brunnstrom was acquired...

And if the draft were redone, Seguin goes number 1, without the least bit of a doubt.
- prock

Doubt it.

Both are great players and neither team would trade one for the other.
- sanfordnson

Absolutely agree with that statement. Both teams are extremely happy with who they picked. They are both going to have very good careers. Its a shame they're not in the same division so they could build a rivalry against each other.

Wanted being the key. Not anymore they couldn’t.
- prock

hall is better than seguin imo. or at least, the type of game hall brings is much more valuable to the oilers that that of seguins.

both are happy with the guy they picked.

hall is better than seguin imo. we can use the type of game hall brings more that that of seguins.

both are happy with the guy they picked.
- hugefemale dog77

You can MAYBE use Hall’s game more than Seguin’s, until you get rid of Horcoff. Then you’ll be looking for a two way centre. If you had a 30 goal, 70 point guy (which Seguin is ALREADY), with potential for more, that can fit that role, AND a top scoring role, wouldn’t that be nice? Instead of a one way goal scoring winger?

I bet if you ask 30 GM's in the league today...at least 25 would dissagree with you.

Seguin is on a stacked team and plays a secondary roll against secondary Defense pairings most nights. Hall takes over games.

Keep trolling.
- Iggysbff

Seguin isn't on a stacked team...he is on a great defensive team, and the entire team contributes...there is not one player on that team with a PPG average.
Hall plays with Nuge or Ebs...so he definitely plays with better players night in and night out...
Stop being so blinded by your Oiler love...
I would take Seguin over Hall now...Hall can be a dominate power forward, but is reckless, and already has injury issues...Seguin is the playmaking centre that everyone loves...

Not even close...there may be a couple retard Leaf fans who have said some of the stuff you spouted off about, but a majority of the fanbase doesn't say any of that...but the entire Oil fan base says that Yak is the best thing since sliced bread...franchise player, 60goal scorer, Hall of Famer, blah blah blah...
Burke hasn't won every trade he made...hello Kessel...Kessel is a great player and just turned 25 but Seguin, Hamilton and Knight for him...way too much.
I love how you just make poop up to try and sound like you have a clue...no one gave a poop when Brunnstrom was acquired...
- BoBBeR56

no we dont.

many of us are cautiously optimistic.

but either way, based on what we've seen, ud be VERY stoked to have drafted yakupov too.
deal with it

also, the oilers need a dominant power forward alot more than another playmaking center..

You can MAYBE use Hall’s game more than Seguin’s, until you get rid of Horcoff. Then you’ll be looking for a two way centre. If you had a 30 goal, 70 point guy (which Seguin is ALREADY), with potential for more, that can fit that role, AND a top scoring role, wouldn’t that be nice? Instead of a one way goal scoring winger?
- prock

RNH can do that thing.


Hall will crush you.

Seguin isn't on a stacked team...he is on a great defensive team, and the entire team contributes...there is not one player on that team with a PPG average.
Hall plays with Nuge or Ebs...so he definitely plays with better players night in and night out...
Stop being so blinded by your Oiler love...
I would take Seguin over Hall now...Hall can be a dominate power forward, but is reckless, and already has injury issues...Seguin is the playmaking centre that everyone loves...
- BoBBeR56

Youre wrong because Jesus.

Advantage: sanfordnson.

Now scram before i really start pwning HARDCORE.

You can MAYBE use Hall’s game more than Seguin’s, until you get rid of Horcoff. Then you’ll be looking for a two way centre. If you had a 30 goal, 70 point guy (which Seguin is ALREADY), with potential for more, that can fit that role, AND a top scoring role, wouldn’t that be nice? Instead of a one way goal scoring winger?
- prock

Do you really get into this or are you just bored at work sometimes?

You can MAYBE use Hall’s game more than Seguin’s, until you get rid of Horcoff. Then you’ll be looking for a two way centre. If you had a 30 goal, 70 point guy (which Seguin is ALREADY), with potential for more, that can fit that role, AND a top scoring role, wouldn’t that be nice? Instead of a one way goal scoring winger?
- prock

dont tell what i can MAYBE use or cant. same as u, i have an opinion.

halls scored 27 in 60 games. he'd have scored 35. does he have potential for MORE too? or no? just seguin? halls peaked? he also had 53 pts. he'd have conservatively got to 65.
halls game is getting more physical too. exactly what we need. hes also that true dynamic game breaker type player.
i love seguins game too, but we have our number 1 center already. hes two way as well. maybe better defensively than tyler in fact.


again. happy with the pick.

but if u wanna trade gagner for seguin and he can play 2nd line center..im all for it!!!

RNH can do that thing.


Hall will crush you.



- robin_steele264

No he can't.

I will pinch his face.

I learned something interesting yesterday. The Oil are two years away from being an elite team competing for and probably winning the stanley cup.

I found that fascinating.

Do you really get into this or are you just bored at work sometimes?
- sanfordnson

What do you mean by “get into this”?

I’m just passing time at work for the most part. If you think I’m getting worked up or something…. No. I'm on a conference call right now.

Seguin isn't on a stacked team...he is on a great defensive team, and the entire team contributes...there is not one player on that team with a PPG average.
Hall plays with Nuge or Ebs...so he definitely plays with better players night in and night out...
Stop being so blinded by your Oiler love...
I would take Seguin over Hall now...Hall can be a dominate power forward, but is reckless, and already has injury issues...Seguin is the playmaking centre that everyone loves...
- BoBBeR56

I'm not at all blinded by Oiler love...you have it the other way around. All of you spouting the nonsense about taking Seguin over Hall, Tavares over RNH yada yadayada are all just blinded by your OILER JEALOUSY!

dont tell what i can MAYBE use or cant. same as u, i have an opinion.

halls scored 27 in 60 games. he'd have scored 35. does he have potential for MORE too? or no? just seguin? halls peaked? he also had 53 pts. he'd have conservatively got to 65.
halls game is getting more physical too. exactly what we need, and is a true game breaker type player.

again. happy with the pick
- hugefemale dog77

I’ll tell you what you can and can’t use, and you’ll like it.

No he can't.

I will pinch his face.
- prock

RNH has a datsyuk face and datsyuk skill.