if the Oilers wanted a franchise dman, why wouldn't they just have picked up Murray at the draft?...no one knows how well Yakupov is gonna be at the NHL level, but he is doing very well at the KHL level, so odds are he'll have a decent NHL rookie year. I've heard before that if it was Hall/RNH and Yakupov going 1st over-all, Yakupov is the player you pick...he's gonna be that good..

Yakupov and a 1st for Gardiner, fair trade

I'd agree with all of them short of RNH for Tavares.
- prock

No motivation to do any of those from the Oilers or the other teams.

if the Oilers wanted a franchise dman, why wouldn't they just have picked up Murray at the draft?...no one knows how well Yakupov is gonna be at the NHL level, but he is doing very well at the KHL level, so odds are he'll have a decent NHL rookie year. I've heard before that if it was Hall/RNH and Yakupov going 1st over-all, Yakupov is the player you pick...he's gonna be that good..
- yakattack

Oh I take RNH easy.

Reply to BOLD: Agreed, the guy is a douche.

Reply to ITALICS: I would do that. As awesome as Yak has been, and as much as I think Dubey can be a starter, I would love to have Price who is a proven goalie and PK who is a budding #1 Dman. To get PK, JSchultz and Klefbaum in our list that also includes Smid, Petry, NSchultz and Whitney we would have a wickedly deep D core. This is not even including Marcinin, Gernat, Musil, Fedun etc...

Reply to UNDERLINE: It is agreed by everyone in the world that scouting has improved since the early 90's. It is also understood by many who pay attention that Daigle was just not cut out for the NHL. He himself admits he did not have the passion for the total commit that was needed to play in the NHL. Yakupov on the other hand does have that commit level. Comparing the two makes you look silly.
- OilHorse

I agree for the most part about what you have said...
That said, I disagree with the bolded part...not for a second do I think that Yaks will be anything remotely close to Daigle, BUT...Oilers fans have put this 19yr old kid on a pedestal and have claimed him as a franchise player, 60goal scorer, etc before even playing a game in the NHL...saying that a fair trade for Yaks would be Price AND Subban just shows how ridiculous Oil fans are being...
Let the kid get some productive seasons under his belt before you crown him.

I'd agree with all of them short of RNH for Tavares.
- prock

Hall for Seguin - Boston would hang up
Eberle for Landenskog - Avs would say no although this is the closest one
RNJ for Tavares - Isles say no thanks
Klefbom for Hamilton - Bruins say no
Shultz for Letang - Pitts says no and laughs as they hang up

Edm would never want a Hall for Seguin trade...and would hang up on Boston...
Ebs for Landi? Yeah I like Landi but not at the cost of Ebs.
Nuge for Tavares? I wouldn't if I were either team. Nuge is that good and byall accounts will be just as good as Tavares.
Kelfbaum and Hamilton: I agree just because Hamilton will also be a stud Dman that is already used to the NA style of hockey.
JSchultz for Letang: You use a guy who has never played in the NHL in comparison to a guy with 5 seasons experience. I feel pretty good that if Schultz gets a season in this year he will do as well as Letang did in his first full year.

Not a chance you trade him for Subban.
- prock

Oh, I agree...but to comepletely blow it off so quickly, and counter with Price AND Subban for Yaks is laughable.

No motivation to do any of those from the Oilers or the other teams.
- robin_steele264

You mean, other than upgrading to a better player?

Oh, I agree...but to comepletely blow it off so quickly, and counter with Price AND Subban for Yaks is laughable.
- BoBBeR56

Don't think Price is ever moving - we have no Halak anymore.

Yakupov and a 1st for Gardiner, fair trade
- Feeling_Glucky

Wouldn't be fair to hose the Leafs like that.....

Oh I take RNH easy.
- robin_steele264

....I agree with you at this moment too...but I could be singing a different tune in a couple of years if Yakupov is having a 60 goal season!

You mean, other than upgrading to a better player?
- prock

In most, if not all, of those trades there is no real change in talent level. To think otherwise is just ignorance or trolling. Pick your poison.

In most, if not all, of those trades there is no real change in talent level. To think otherwise is just ignorance or trolling. Pick your poison.
- OilHorse

Yakupov and a first for kessel, gardner, lupul, and 3 first

You mean, other than upgrading to a better player?
- prock

No.

I agree for the most part about what you have said...
That said, I disagree with the bolded part...not for a second do I think that Yaks will be anything remotely close to Daigle, BUT...Oilers fans have put this 19yr old kid on a pedestal and have claimed him as a franchise player, 60goal scorer, etc before even playing a game in the NHL...saying that a fair trade for Yaks would be Price AND Subban just shows how ridiculous Oil fans are being...
Let the kid get some productive seasons under his belt before you crown him.
- BoBBeR56

Pretty widely understood that the KHL is 2nd only to NHL in talent level. And that took a solid uptick with the addition of all the NHLers that went there. Yet here is this rookie who has played on a poor team with few stars and he is almost a goal a game. He is not near the league lead in points, but he is on pace with OV.

No.
- robin_steele264

How is any of this debatable? I mean, a pile of really good players who are just in their beginning stages of the league (except for Letang). I would not think either team would want any of those trades to happen.

I think that the Oilers would be smart to trade for an experienced D-man and/or goalie. They cannot constantly be thinking long-term, they need to start being successful now. Yeah they have some decent defensive prospects, but they need leadership on the blue line and someone who can win games between the pipes.

Trading Yakupov shouldn't be considered impossible, but for Subban no. I think Subban is pretty good, as expected Habs fans blow him up, but he's still young and not a leader. Plus Subban is more caught up in his 'celebrity' status than dominating the sport of Hockey IMO.

I think its ludicrous to think that Dubynk will pan out to be anything special. They should definitely trade for a goalie, but the pickings are slim at the moment. Luongo might be a good fit, but I don't see that happening.

Edmonton fans will scoff at this, but take a look at Jordan Leopold. Is he a shutdown, top D-man? No. He is however very experienced, shows leadership, and isn't past his prime. He would challenge for top pairing on the Oilers, but more importantly be a mentor and leader for the younger players.

Not saying what they would be willing to trade for him, but im sure Oilers fans will make some humorous suggestions. Seriously though Leo is just an example of who the Oilers should be looking for.

The WHOLE point of my comment was missed. If you could trade yak for someone better you should do it..... kind of common sense.
- Deadmau55

Ya...but Subban is not better...not even close. Yak will win the Richard trophy a few times in his career.

Is there anyone on the Oilers that is NOT going to be a top player in the league some day?
- woopstash

No.

I cant wait to hear the crying when the Oilers have 2 nominee's for the Calder this year...

Cloutier ? Why does a team that hasn't made the playoffs in years have so many untouchables? People say Toronto and Vancouver over value their players, you can add Edmonton to that list.

No, it's true. I read it on Twitter as well.

Your number of untouchables is laughable. You don't make the playoffs. The only new players are two rookies. Really? Live it the real world please.

Hall for Seguin - Boston would hang up
Eberle for Landenskog - Avs would say no although this is the closest one
RNJ for Tavares - Isles say no thanks
Klefbom for Hamilton - Bruins say no
Shultz for Letang - Pitts says no and laughs as they hang up


So you would rather not have Seguin, Landenskog, Tavares, Hamilton and Letang? Really? See they're not untouchable. Don't say that. It makes you seem like such a silly little man.

Feel free to say that's the core and nobody will disagree. Call them untouchable and you should lose your blogging license if there's such a thing.
- therealagent

I wouldnt make one of those trades if I was the Oil.

Go away troll!

Cloutier ? Why does a team that hasn't made the playoffs in years have so many untouchables? People say Toronto and Vancouver over value their players, you can ad Edmonton to that list.
- VANTEL

A rebuilding team considering its very best young players being untouchable seems totally insane to you?

I think that the Oilers would be smart to trade for an experienced D-man and/or goalie. They cannot constantly be thinking long-term, they need to start being successful now. Yeah they have some decent defensive prospects, but they need leadership on the blue line and someone who can win games between the pipes.

Trading Yakupov shouldn't be considered impossible, but for Subban no. I think Subban is pretty good, as expected Habs fans blow him up, but he's still young and not a leader. Plus Subban is more caught up in his 'celebrity' status than dominating the sport of Hockey IMO.

I think its ludicrous to think that Dubynk will pan out to be anything special. They should definitely trade for a goalie, but the pickings are slim at the moment. Luongo might be a good fit, but I don't see that happening.

Edmonton fans will scoff at this, but take a look at Jordan Leopold. Is he a shutdown, top D-man? No. He is however very experienced, shows leadership, and isn't past his prime. He would challenge for top pairing on the Oilers, but more importantly be a mentor and leader for the younger players.

Not saying what they would be willing to trade for him, but im sure Oilers fans will make some humorous suggestions. Seriously though Leo is just an example of who the Oilers should be looking for.
- rsj2588

I do not have a problem with getting a guy like Leopold. Not sure he is Top 2 on the Oil but he should be Top 4.

Smid.Whitney
Leopold.Petry
Schulz.Schultz

I think that the Oilers would be smart to trade for an experienced D-man and/or goalie. They cannot constantly be thinking long-term, they need to start being successful now. Yeah they have some decent defensive prospects, but they need leadership on the blue line and someone who can win games between the pipes.

Trading Yakupov shouldn't be considered impossible, but for Subban no. I think Subban is pretty good, as expected Habs fans blow him up, but he's still young and not a leader. Plus Subban is more caught up in his 'celebrity' status than dominating the sport of Hockey IMO.

I think its ludicrous to think that Dubynk will pan out to be anything special. They should definitely trade for a goalie, but the pickings are slim at the moment. Luongo might be a good fit, but I don't see that happening.

Edmonton fans will scoff at this, but take a look at Jordan Leopold. Is he a shutdown, top D-man? No. He is however very experienced, shows leadership, and isn't past his prime. He would challenge for top pairing on the Oilers, but more importantly be a mentor and leader for the younger players.

Not saying what they would be willing to trade for him, but im sure Oilers fans will make some humorous suggestions. Seriously though Leo is just an example of who the Oilers should be looking for.
- rsj2588

Okay, we will give the rights to Omark. Sound good?