HB77
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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Yeah! - Maxbone
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You new around here??? - ruttager17
Star Trek? |
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Star Trek? - RichardHertz
Put it this way, if you had 12 inches of one u would be a porn star |
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OilerFanFromBC
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Victoria, BC Joined: 01.23.2012
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Just dump Horcoff and Eager to the Islanders for Reasoner. They have 23mil free in cap space and could use a great leader like Horcs then trade Hemsky and a 2nd rounder(ANA) to St Louis for Stewart |
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Richard Cloutier: Yakupov to Montreal? Please Stop, You're Killing Me! - Maxbone
No, it's true. I read it on Twitter as well.
Your number of untouchables is laughable. You don't make the playoffs. The only new players are two rookies. Really? Live it the real world please.
Hall for Seguin - Boston would hang up
Eberle for Landenskog - Avs would say no although this is the closest one
RNJ for Tavares - Isles say no thanks
Klefbom for Hamilton - Bruins say no
Shultz for Letang - Pitts says no and laughs as they hang up
So you would rather not have Seguin, Landenskog, Tavares, Hamilton and Letang? Really? See they're not untouchable. Don't say that. It makes you seem like such a silly little man.
Feel free to say that's the core and nobody will disagree. Call them untouchable and you should lose your blogging license if there's such a thing.
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BarDownBobo
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: St. Paul, AB Joined: 04.11.2012
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No, it's true. I read it on Twitter as well.
Your number of untouchables is laughable. You don't make the playoffs. The only new players are two rookies. Really? Live it the real world please.
Hall for Seguin - Boston would hang up
Eberle for Landenskog - Avs would say no although this is the closest one
RNJ for Tavares - Isles say no thanks
Klefbom for Hamilton - Bruins say no
Shultz for Letang - Pitts says no and laughs as they hang up
So you would rather not have Seguin, Landenskog, Tavares, Hamilton and Letang? Really? See they're not untouchable. Don't say that. It makes you seem like such a silly little man.
Feel free to say that's the core and nobody will disagree. Call them untouchable and you should lose your blogging license if there's such a thing. - therealagent
No to the first three, and the others lets see what happens when Klefbom, Hamilton and Schultz have played for a while in the NHL. |
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abware
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Just Fuching with you guys! Oilers > than Flames! K-man25 Joined: 01.26.2010
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No, it's true. I read it on Twitter as well.
Your number of untouchables is laughable. You don't make the playoffs. The only new players are two rookies. Really? Live it the real world please.
Hall for Seguin - Boston would hang up
Eberle for Landenskog - Avs would say no although this is the closest one
RNJ for Tavares - Isles say no thanks
Klefbom for Hamilton - Bruins say no
Shultz for Letang - Pitts says no and laughs as they hang up
So you would rather not have Seguin, Landenskog, Tavares, Hamilton and Letang? Really? See they're not untouchable. Don't say that. It makes you seem like such a silly little man.
Feel free to say that's the core and nobody will disagree. Call them untouchable and you should lose your blogging license if there's such a thing. - therealagent
There is no such thing as untouchable. If Gretz can be traded anyone can.
as far as your scenarios go I wouldn't make the Hall or Eberle trade from the Edmonton point of view and I would hate to trade RNH, but Tavares would be a guy to not hate the trade. Klefbom and Schulz have yet to play an NHL game, so their value isn't where it might be in a year or two. (and even then I can't see either trade happen from pitts/bruins side) You never know. |
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Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC Joined: 06.10.2009
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I spoke with someone connected to the Oilers organization
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Hall Fan
Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 06.01.2009
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The WHOLE point of my comment was missed. If you could trade yak for someone better you should do it..... kind of common sense. - Deadmau55
I agree but Subban is not better. I like Subban but the point is Yakupov is proving a point right now in the KHL. Playing on a line with 2 under sized veterans that are not great and getting little ice time, he is still a point a game player. That is big for a 19 year old. Subban will be a good defense man but not that good.
Besides, Yakupov it is not all about the team on the ice. Yakupov is a fan favorite and has taken the city by storm in a way that Hall and RNH never dreamed of. He might become the face of the franchise and used to sell the new arena to the tax payers. Subban wouldn't even be more popular than Shultz in Edmonton. Especially the way Shultz is lighting it up in OKC.
I could see Montreal inquiring but yakupov might be the only true untouchable player. The others are untouchable mainly because the oilers wouldn't get their true value coming off 3 poor seasons. All the players are going to have more trade value once the team clicks.
As for the person who said the oilers are made up of "flashy forwards..." that is funny. For a team with their record, they aren't flashing much of anything. If you mean talented young guys, then yes, building that team is working out pretty good for us. Nice of you to inquire. I don't think I would trade the Oilers team for any other in the league right now. |
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No, it's true. I read it on Twitter as well.
Your number of untouchables is laughable. You don't make the playoffs. The only new players are two rookies. Really? Live it the real world please.
Hall for Seguin - Boston would hang up
Eberle for Landenskog - Avs would say no although this is the closest one
RNJ for Tavares - Isles say no thanks
Klefbom for Hamilton - Bruins say no
Shultz for Letang - Pitts says no and laughs as they hang up
So you would rather not have Seguin, Landenskog, Tavares, Hamilton and Letang? Really? See they're not untouchable. Don't say that. It makes you seem like such a silly little man.
Feel free to say that's the core and nobody will disagree. Call them untouchable and you should lose your blogging license if there's such a thing. - therealagent
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spatso
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: jensen beach, FL Joined: 02.19.2007
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No to the first three, and the others lets see what happens when Klefbom, Hamilton and Schultz have played for a while in the NHL. - BarDownBobo
I love the core of the Oilers. I think they have done everything the right way. You just take the best player available and do your best to make the right decisions for development. You cannot take short cuts and put winning ahead of the need to develop each kid.
At some point the Oilers start to win. When that happens people will become aware of their team deficiencies. I think in Schultz they may have the #1 Dman that elite teams need to win regularly. But, they do not have size or a physical presence in their top six. At some point they are going to have to do a deal for a true power forward. They will also need a dominant physical Dman. Maybe a goalie, I am not sure, yet?
But for now the Oilers should not do any deals. Let the kids play, score goals and have fun. I think they will score enough on most nights to win as many games as will be necessary to sneak into the playoffs.
Next year is soon enough to think about some strategic deals to help them get bigger in a few key positions.
Subban is too much of a head case. He would suck too much of the oxygen away from everyone else. This guy is the last thing the young Oiler dressing room needs. Now Carey Price is an entirely different story. |
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Maybe if it's for Subban AND Price. - Richard Cloutier
You are just adorable. |
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Clouts is right about the 'untouchables'.... Those are the guys this team will be built around.
Most good teams build around their top 7 forwards, top 4 D and their goalie.
The rest of the team can be somewhat patched together to fill holes.
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kilrtunz
Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 11.04.2012
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I agree but Subban is not better. I like Subban but the point is Yakupov is proving a point right now in the KHL. Playing on a line with 2 under sized veterans that are not great and getting little ice time, he is still a point a game player. That is big for a 19 year old. Subban will be a good defense man but not that good.
Besides, Yakupov it is not all about the team on the ice. Yakupov is a fan favorite and has taken the city by storm in a way that Hall and RNH never dreamed of. He might become the face of the franchise and used to sell the new arena to the tax payers. Subban wouldn't even be more popular than Shultz in Edmonton. Especially the way Shultz is lighting it up in OKC.
I could see Montreal inquiring but yakupov might be the only true untouchable player. The others are untouchable mainly because the oilers wouldn't get their true value coming off 3 poor seasons. All the players are going to have more trade value once the team clicks.
As for the person who said the oilers are made up of "flashy forwards..." that is funny. For a team with their record, they aren't flashing much of anything. If you mean talented young guys, then yes, building that team is working out pretty good for us. Nice of you to inquire. I don't think I would trade the Oilers team for any other in the league right now. - bsteinley
Subban would hold more value to an american team because he would definitely sell tickets and lots of jerseys. He is very marketable. Boston, Philly, LA, Det, Chi, SJ, Fla, TB, NJ etc. They would make tons of money with him, but it does necessarily mean more victories!
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koarik91
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Hockey's capital, QC Joined: 07.01.2006
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Dear Richard,
You should stop reading everything that's on the internet. Doens't mean that if it's on google it's true you know....
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BoBBeR56
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Leaf Nation, ON Joined: 06.30.2010
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That is probably one of the stupidest things I have ever read.... and I read Clout's blogs so that's impressive sir - ruttager17
Have you never heard of sarcasm?
Clouts, why you listening to that lame hockeyyinsiderr?
Question to the Oil faithful though...
What if the trade offer was Price for Yaks...I would think you would have to at least consider that...or Duby, Yaks and a 2nd for Price & Subban...
As good as Yaks has looked, there is no guarantee...looked how good Daigle looked in his final year in the QMJHL... |
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Feeling_Glucky
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: 2024 Stanley Cup Champion, AZ Joined: 08.18.2010
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PK and 2013 first(top 5 likely) for Yak? |
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BoBBeR56
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Leaf Nation, ON Joined: 06.30.2010
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I agree but Subban is not better. I like Subban but the point is Yakupov is proving a point right now in the KHL. Playing on a line with 2 under sized veterans that are not great and getting little ice time, he is still a point a game player. That is big for a 19 year old. Subban will be a good defense man but not that good.
Besides, Yakupov it is not all about the team on the ice. Yakupov is a fan favorite and has taken the city by storm in a way that Hall and RNH never dreamed of. He might become the face of the franchise and used to sell the new arena to the tax payers. Subban wouldn't even be more popular than Shultz in Edmonton. Especially the way Shultz is lighting it up in OKC.
I could see Montreal inquiring but yakupov might be the only true untouchable player. The others are untouchable mainly because the oilers wouldn't get their true value coming off 3 poor seasons. All the players are going to have more trade value once the team clicks.
As for the person who said the oilers are made up of "flashy forwards..." that is funny. For a team with their record, they aren't flashing much of anything. If you mean talented young guys, then yes, building that team is working out pretty good for us. Nice of you to inquire. I don't think I would trade the Oilers team for any other in the league right now. - bsteinley
Silly Oilers fan...I love how Subban isn't better than a 19yr old who has never played in the NHL. PK has averaged 37pts in his first two seasons in the NHL, and was on the all rookie team, but he doesn't hold a candle to Yaks... |
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Yellow45
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Gatineau, QC Joined: 06.13.2012
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"Maybe if it's Subban AND Carey Price coming back the other way."
- woopstash
That will never happen lol. |
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prock
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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No, it's true. I read it on Twitter as well.
Your number of untouchables is laughable. You don't make the playoffs. The only new players are two rookies. Really? Live it the real world please.
Hall for Seguin - Boston would hang up
Eberle for Landenskog - Avs would say no although this is the closest one
RNJ for Tavares - Isles say no thanks
Klefbom for Hamilton - Bruins say no
Shultz for Letang - Pitts says no and laughs as they hang up
So you would rather not have Seguin, Landenskog, Tavares, Hamilton and Letang? Really? See they're not untouchable. Don't say that. It makes you seem like such a silly little man.
Feel free to say that's the core and nobody will disagree. Call them untouchable and you should lose your blogging license if there's such a thing. - therealagent
I'd agree with all of them short of RNH for Tavares. |
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prock
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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Okay, so trade me Doughty and Kopitar, and you can have Yakupov. Deal? - Maxbone
Let's not get silly. I'll agree, Subban for Yakupov is ridiculous. The Oilers shouldn't even remotely consider that, unless it came with the Habs first rounder, and something else. Even then, I'm not so sure.
But he's not worth Doughty OR Kopitar, let alone both. |
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prock
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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Silly Oilers fan...I love how Subban isn't better than a 19yr old who has never played in the NHL. PK has averaged 37pts in his first two seasons in the NHL, and was on the all rookie team, but he doesn't hold a candle to Yaks... - BoBBeR56
Not a chance you trade him for Subban. |
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prock
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON Joined: 08.30.2007
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That will never happen lol. - Yellow45
Nope. But Subban for Yakupov is just as much of a joke. |
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OilHorse
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: EKolb..ChiRef..Dnozzlesupreme, BC Joined: 10.12.2010
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Have you never heard of sarcasm?
Clouts, why you listening to that lame hockeyyinsiderr?
Question to the Oil faithful though...
What if the trade offer was Price for Yaks...I would think you would have to at least consider that...or Duby, Yaks and a 2nd for Price & Subban...
As good as Yaks has looked, there is no guarantee...looked how good Daigle looked in his final year in the QMJHL... - BoBBeR56
Reply to BOLD: Agreed, the guy is a douche.
Reply to ITALICS: I would do that. As awesome as Yak has been, and as much as I think Dubey can be a starter, I would love to have Price who is a proven goalie and PK who is a budding #1 Dman. To get PK, JSchultz and Klefbaum in our list that also includes Smid, Petry, NSchultz and Whitney we would have a wickedly deep D core. This is not even including Marcinin, Gernat, Musil, Fedun etc...
Reply to UNDERLINE: It is agreed by everyone in the world that scouting has improved since the early 90's. It is also understood by many who pay attention that Daigle was just not cut out for the NHL. He himself admits he did not have the passion for the total commit that was needed to play in the NHL. Yakupov on the other hand does have that commit level. Comparing the two makes you look silly. |
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