I heard that all of the Oilers draft picks were busts in poor drafting years
- andymaury

i love the "weak draft" argument. it's become a true favourite of mine.

this seems wildly pessimistic.

im hoping for 80 goals a year and a wing in the hall of fame dedicated solely to him.
with construction to begin after his first game in the nhl
- hugefemale dog77

Ah, so you used to be a leaf fan.

i love the 'weak draft' argument. it's become a true favourite of mine
- hugefemale dog77

When Hall was drafted I heard to bad it wasnt the next year because Coutourier is a beast, Then when we draftede the Nuge i heard too bad it wasnt the next year because Yaks is a franchise forward. Now I hear Yaks will probably stay in Russia and McKinnon is the next Crosby

Ah, so you used to be a leaf fan.
- HuileHab

gardiner is so good that for u to even attempt to comprehend the scale of his talent, your head would literally explode

When Hall was drafted I heard to bad it wasnt the next year because Coutourier is a beast, Then when we drafted the Nuge and i heard too bad it wasnt the next year because Yaks is a franchise forward. Now I hear Yaks will probably stay in Russia and McKinnon is the next Crosby
- andymaury

plain bad luck

u sneaky fuker prock. betting on the fact i wouldnt check. well played!!

i knew ppg was close but it was pretty much identical!!
hall woulda scored a few more goals and he'd have ended with a few more assists.
- hugefemale dog77

Except Seguin did it with less ice time, and WAY less even strength and PP time. Yeah, he HD a lot of PK time, because despite scoring the same in way less ice time, he's miles better two way.

And I wasn't being sneaky. He was one goal off.

When Hall was drafted I heard to bad it wasnt the next year because Coutourier is a beast, Then when we draftede the Nuge i heard too bad it wasnt the next year because Yaks is a franchise forward. Now I hear Yaks will probably stay in Russia and McKinnon is the next Crosby
- andymaury

Well, somewhat rue though. Since ovechkin and Crosby, there have been any "generational" type talents. Its looking like not only mackinnon might be one (though, I think he's a step under), but then there is mcdavid after that, who I'm pretty certain is. You seen that kid play?

Except Seguin did it with less ice time, and WAY less even strength and PP time. Yeah, he HD a lot of PK time, because despite scoring the same in way less ice time, he's miles better two way.

And I wasn't being sneaky. He was one goal off.
- prock

the oilers take hall 10 times outta 10


hall was only 3 off. but played 20 less games

Well, somewhat rue though. Since ovechkin and Crosby, there have been any "generational" type talents. Its looking like not only mackinnon might be one (though, I think he's a step under), but then there is mcdavid after that, who I'm pretty certain is. You seen that kid play?
- prock

totally.
just so happened that the players the oilers got just arent that good. the dudes right after them though....

seems to always work out in the haters favour no matter what we do...weird how that works out

cant catch a break damnit!!!

totally.
just so happened that the players the oilers got just arent that good. the dudes right after them though....

seems to always work out in the haters favour no matter what we do...weird how that works out

cant catch a break damnit!!!
- hugefemale dog77

So you think Taylor hall is on Crosby/ovechkin level?

No way. More like tavares level.

So you think Taylor hall is on Crosby/ovechkin level?

No way. More like tavares level.
- prock

What level is Seguin on?

So you think Taylor hall is on Crosby/ovechkin level?

No way. More like tavares level.
- prock

no.. but that has nothing to do with the original point.


anyway.....hall, nuge and yakupov. sucks that we had to suffer so badly to acquire them, but in the end ecstatic that we did.

What level is Seguin on?
- RichardHertz

Above tavares, below Crosby.

Above tavares, below Crosby.
- prock

So Phil Kessel.

Above tavares, below Crosby.
- prock

dont agree. tavares makes team canada. seguin doesnt

Above tavares, below Crosby.
- prock

Naw

dont agree. tavares makes team canada. seguin doesnt
- hugefemale dog77

I fail to see how Seguin is a level above Tavares.

I fail to see how Seguin is a level above Tavares.
- RichardHertz

cause hes not.

Above tavares, below Crosby.
- prock

Sure he is.

And btw, Ovechkin isn't on Ovechkin's level anymore.

Sure he is.

And btw, Ovechkin isn't on Ovechkin's level anymore.
- laughs2907

Ovechkin should stay in the KHL.

no.. but that has nothing to do with the original point.


anyway.....hall, nuge and yakupov. sucks that we had to suffer so badly to acquire them, but in the end ecstatic that we did.
- hugefemale dog77

Well, I'm not saying that. I'm saying that its somewhat true that there are generational players on both ends of the oilers three draft years.... malkin, Crosby, ovechkin. There is a gap, then there is potentially mackinnon, but I think hell be a step below too. Connor mcdavid, however, that kid is pretty dominant, as a fifteen year old.... I think that's likely the next generational type talent to come along.

Look, these players at 16....

Crosby - 135 points.
Tavares - 134 points (8 more games)
Taylor hall - 84
Mackinnon - 80
Rnh - 65
Yak - Russia

At 17...
Crosby - 168
Tavares - 118
Rnh - 106
Taylor hall - 90
Mackinnon - looks like maybe around 100? Hard to tell.
Yak - 101
Seguin was 106 also by the way, but way better two way.

At 18..... NHL stats
Tavares, Taylor hall, rnh, similar rookie stats, with rnh the best of the three. But Sidney Crosby is obviously on another level. As he was at every level. I don't think that's even debate able. Mackinnon seems to be progressing along with rest of them. Maybe a little better, or at least, among the better ones of that group. And maybe as the season progresses, he turns it up, as he gets a little older. At this point, similar though.

Connor mcdavid is over a ppg as a fifteen year old...... he's doing what many of those guys did at 16, so far.

I mean who knows, but if you had to lump them all in one draft, I think you see Crosby, malkin, ovechkin, then a big gap, seguin/rnh, yak, hall. Mackinnon, maybe fitting in around seguin rnh, yak. Mcdavid, the most likely to join the top group.

I fail to see how Seguin is a level above Tavares.
- RichardHertz

He probably put up similar points per minute of play, with a fair bit of that time being PK..... way better two way. I would take Seguin.

dont agree. tavares makes team canada. seguin doesnt
- hugefemale dog77

Maybe. In a year or two, I doubt it.

Sure he is.

And btw, Ovechkin isn't on Ovechkin's level anymore.
- laughs2907

He's been sucking dyck. Still one of the best around though.

Ovechkin should stay in the KHL.
- RichardHertz

For sure.

P.S. Yakupov's KHL performance so far >> Ovechkin's KHL performance