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Chip McCleary
St Louis Blues
Location: Madison, WI
Joined: 06.28.2008

Nov 4 @ 6:39 PM ET
Besides, Its fairly easy to make a 70-game schedule.

5 intradivisional games(2road, 3 home for half and vice versa for half): 5x4= 20
2 intraconferencial games(1 road and 1 home against each) 2x10=20
1 game against each opposing conference teams(home/road 50/50) 1x30=30

Not so difficult 70-game schedual and pretty easy for cpu to make after inputting parameters. Its not even unbalanced as u have 50/50 road-home game ratio. I really dont see your problem JDJ.

- orion1981

That's not what I mean by "it's difficult to put together a schedule." I didn't even mean "it's difficult to throw it into a computer and have it spit out a schedule." I meant "take that schedule generated and start making arrangements so that travel, lodging, etc. are ready to go for the first 5-7 games."

Again, in 1995 there was already a schedule in place and teams had some warning ahead of time. Teams are nowhere close to that point right now. Getting those 5-7 games (or more) taken care of won't happen between 9am and 5pm the first day after the schedule is released, and with arenas having the ability to book events 30 days out, availability may have changed from what was originally submitted.

This is like talking about ____'s chances in (insert state here) on Tuesday: I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm saying it's not very likely.
fsanford
Joined: 10.28.2009

Nov 4 @ 6:44 PM ET
Making a new schedule takes what? 1 day? The next day the people within the organizations that are paid to make travel arrangements do their jobs, like they are supposed to. The players are under contract with their NHL teams so they are well aware that when a new CBA is cut they are to return back to their respective posts, unless they're Russian then they can apparently do whatever they feel like.

It's not out of the question to start a reduced season quickly, if what Ek suggests actually happens.

- trolleytracks


You have buildings already booked for other events, schedule will need to be such that most of the games will be within the conference. 1 day?
Computers cannot do everything people...
orion1981
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Helsinki
Joined: 06.14.2010

Nov 4 @ 6:47 PM ET
That's not what I mean by "it's difficult to put together a schedule." I didn't even mean "it's difficult to throw it into a computer and have it spit out a schedule." I meant "take that schedule generated and start making arrangements so that travel, lodging, etc. are ready to go for the first 5-7 games."

Again, in 1995 there was already a schedule in place and teams had some warning ahead of time. Teams are nowhere close to that point right now. Getting those 5-7 games (or more) taken care of won't happen between 9am and 5pm the first day after the schedule is released, and with arenas having the ability to book events 30 days out, availability may have changed from what was originally submitted.

This is like talking about ____'s chances in (insert state here) on Tuesday: I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm saying it's not very likely.

- Irish Blues




I was trying to agree with you and disagree with JDJ, quote just didnt include his text also.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Nov 4 @ 6:48 PM ET
You have buildings already booked for other events, schedule will need to be such that most of the games will be within the conference. 1 day?
Computers cannot do everything people...

- fsanford

You mean computers won't book transports (flights/buses), hotels, practice facilities on the road? technology sucks!
Chip McCleary
St Louis Blues
Location: Madison, WI
Joined: 06.28.2008

Nov 4 @ 6:56 PM ET
You mean computers won't book transports (flights/buses), hotels, practice facilities on the road? technology sucks!
- Symba007

No, but in the future they'll become self-aware and realize we're a threat to them and in self-defense, .... no, wait - that's just some science-fiction plot from a movie. Scratch all that.
fsanford
Joined: 10.28.2009

Nov 4 @ 6:57 PM ET
That's not what I mean by "it's difficult to put together a schedule." I didn't even mean "it's difficult to throw it into a computer and have it spit out a schedule." I meant "take that schedule generated and start making arrangements so that travel, lodging, etc. are ready to go for the first 5-7 games."

Again, in 1995 there was already a schedule in place and teams had some warning ahead of time. Teams are nowhere close to that point right now. Getting those 5-7 games (or more) taken care of won't happen between 9am and 5pm the first day after the schedule is released, and with arenas having the ability to book events 30 days out, availability may have changed from what was originally submitted.

This is like talking about ____'s chances in (insert state here) on Tuesday: I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm saying it's not very likely.

- Irish Blues


Also in 1995 I think some NHL arena's had fewer tenants. For example the Forum in L.A. had the Lakers and Kings, Staples has Kings, Clippers and Lakers, and like an event every night..

I think Stars, Hawks, Avs, NY Rangers, Kings, Bruins, Flyers, will also need to deal with basketball schedules, along with other things. Kings for example will need to be on the road in Feb. due to music awards..


It can be done, but its not as easy as some try to make it out to be.
fsanford
Joined: 10.28.2009

Nov 4 @ 6:59 PM ET
You mean computers won't book transports (flights/buses), hotels, practice facilities on the road? technology sucks!
- Symba007


I know, when the hotel is full, I keep trying to book it, but the computer says no, damn thing..
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Nov 4 @ 7:00 PM ET
No, but in the future they'll become self-aware and realize we're a threat to them and in self-defense, .... no, wait - that's just some science-fiction plot from a movie. Scratch all that.
- Irish Blues





DON'T EVEN JOKE ABOUT THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!
HuileHab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I eat richards for breakfast! - stormey
Joined: 03.01.2010

Nov 4 @ 7:31 PM ET
Making a new schedule takes what? 1 day? The next day the people within the organizations that are paid to make travel arrangements do their jobs, like they are supposed to. The players are under contract with their NHL teams so they are well aware that when a new CBA is cut they are to return back to their respective posts, unless they're Russian then they can apparently do whatever they feel like.

It's not out of the question to start a reduced season quickly, if what Ek suggests actually happens.

- trolleytracks


you think you can make a brand new schedule for 2000 plus games in a day?
Keeping it balanced and scheduling around all the other events that have been booked months in advance, ya keep smoking what ek is smoking
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Nov 4 @ 7:35 PM ET
you think you can make a brand new schedule for 2000 plus games in a day?
Keeping it balanced and scheduling around all the other events that have been booked months in advance, ya keep smoking what ek is smoking

- HuileHab



you were telling people to forget about the "overrated" storm to.

i'll take his word for it.
HuileHab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I eat richards for breakfast! - stormey
Joined: 03.01.2010

Nov 4 @ 7:38 PM ET
you were telling people to forget about the "overrated" storm to.

i'll take his word for it.

- joel878


i think you have me confused with steedot.

I said only stupid people would die in a hurricane, it's a (frank)ing hurricane, pretty simple to stay inside and out of the ocean if you want to have a 99% chance of living.
Chip McCleary
St Louis Blues
Location: Madison, WI
Joined: 06.28.2008

Nov 4 @ 7:41 PM ET
you think you can make a brand new schedule for 2000 plus games in a day?
- HuileHab

An 82-game schedule is 1,230 games. A 70-game schedule would only be 1,050 games.

Putting together that schedule in a day? Absolutely doable if both sides agree to let a computer do it and accept the results that come out or make very minimal changes. Setting up initial travel arrangements for the first handful of games? No, that's not going to happen in a day.
ShootingSemin
Location: Never disagree with the mass p
Joined: 06.22.2010

Nov 4 @ 7:46 PM ET
No, but in the future they'll become self-aware and realize we're a threat to them and in self-defense, .... no, wait - that's just some science-fiction plot from a movie. Scratch all that.
- Irish Blues

joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Nov 4 @ 7:47 PM ET
i think you have me confused with steedot.

I said only stupid people would die in a hurricane, it's a (frank)ing hurricane, pretty simple to stay inside and out of the ocean if you want to have a 99% chance of living.

- HuileHab





wow..!
HuileHab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I eat richards for breakfast! - stormey
Joined: 03.01.2010

Nov 4 @ 7:51 PM ET
An 82-game schedule is 1,230 games. A 70-game schedule would only be 1,050 games.

Putting together that schedule in a day? Absolutely doable if both sides agree to let a computer do it and accept the results that come out or make very minimal changes. Setting up initial travel arrangements for the first handful of games? No, that's not going to happen in a day.

- Irish Blues


my bad on the amount of games i simply multiplied the games by the teams when it should be half of that.

But a computer is not going to take balance into consideration.

When the lockout started the NHL told arenas that they could book there arenas a month in advance of the latest locked out day, and they did that knowing that no matter when they came to an agreement they would take a month from that day to get organized and ready to start the season.

as soon as a deal is announced you can expect the season to start a month at the latest and maybe 2 weeks if they really want to rush things.
HuileHab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I eat richards for breakfast! - stormey
Joined: 03.01.2010

Nov 4 @ 7:54 PM ET


wow..!

- joel878


nothing wow about it, just how it is. Not that it is isn't sad, but it's not like it was a giant Tsunami or anything.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Nov 4 @ 8:01 PM ET
nothing wow about it, just how it is. Not that it is isn't sad, but it's not like it was a giant Tsunami or anything.
- HuileHab



you're an absolute beauty, you really have no idea how blatantly ignorant that is. with that statement alone, i expect a well trained monkey to have a higher regard for how the world works outside of his pampered little 1st world box.

you're a gem for sure. totally clueless!
HuileHab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I eat richards for breakfast! - stormey
Joined: 03.01.2010

Nov 4 @ 8:03 PM ET
you're an absolute beauty, you really have no idea how blatantly ignorant that is. with that statement alone, i expect a well trained monkey to have a higher regard for how the world works outside of his pampered little 1st world box.

you're a gem for sure. totally clueless!

- joel878



coming from a 15 year old this is priceless
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Nov 4 @ 8:05 PM ET


coming from 15 year old this is priceless

- HuileHab



you're assuming i'm 15?

"not like it was a tsunami or anything".. and you're assuming i'm 15?



... just a beauty.
pensfan024
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: somewhere in, VA
Joined: 09.25.2012

Nov 4 @ 8:09 PM ET
im hearing through the rumor mill that many of the russian born players that are currently playing in the khl, like it better and intend on staying and playing over there. big names like ovechkin and gonchar. maybe malkin. damnit man!?


eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Nov 4 @ 8:10 PM ET
i think you have me confused with steedot.

I said only stupid people would die in a hurricane, it's a (frank)ing hurricane, pretty simple to stay inside and out of the ocean if you want to have a 99% chance of living.

- HuileHab

What about when your house lights on fire dumbass?
HuileHab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I eat richards for breakfast! - stormey
Joined: 03.01.2010

Nov 4 @ 8:10 PM ET
you're assuming i'm 15?

"not like it was a tsunami or anything".. and you're assuming i'm 15?



... just a beauty.

- joel878


Well when all you can bring to a conversation is insults with a 15 yr old wit what else could you be?
HuileHab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I eat richards for breakfast! - stormey
Joined: 03.01.2010

Nov 4 @ 8:11 PM ET
What about when your house lights on fire dumbass?
- eichiefs9


Electrical fire because your house was flooded or did something else cause it?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Nov 4 @ 8:14 PM ET
Electrical fire because your house was flooded or did something else cause it?
- HuileHab

You're an idiot.
HuileHab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I eat richards for breakfast! - stormey
Joined: 03.01.2010

Nov 4 @ 8:14 PM ET
im hearing through the rumor mill that many of the russian born players that are currently playing in the khl, like it better and intend on staying and playing over there. big names like ovechkin and gonchar. maybe malkin. damnit man!?



- pensfan024


They are being treated like rockstars right now in order to entice them to stay.

But after a year they will remember what it is like to play for the mafia and will want to come back.

Wasn't it OV that snuck out of russia in the middle of the night to escape the team that owned his rights?
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