Chip McCleary
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Location: Madison, WI Joined: 06.28.2008
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But all the PA has been trying to do is repackage their first proposal with the the same outcome of nothing changing. Atleast this is a new idea that no one has thought of that could pull the wool over some eyes. - HuileHab
I had this idea the other day: if the owners just paid the players whatever they wanted, and then the players paid back everything over a certain percentage of HRR (subject to a mutually acceptable definition), then we wouldn't need a salary cap system. In fact, they could just go on the honor system and trust that no one will try to screw the other over.
It's such a simple solution. I can't believe neither side has suggested it, either. |
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Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 06.01.2011
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Half of one, half the other, less then more and 2 times the fewest - HuileHab
My point exactly.
The proposal doesn't make sense to me. First off, how can you ask teams LOSING money to contribute money? |
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HuileHab
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: I eat richards for breakfast! - stormey Joined: 03.01.2010
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Gents you can only share what you made in profit, otherwise your business loses money. League wide combined profits added up to 260mil. Revenue sharing could not exceed this.
Last year the players pocketed 1.3 billion while the owners pocketed 260mil. That’s what this is all about. Player solution is for owners to spread around thier 260mil so that more of it ends up in player pockets.
This is why there will be no season. Current system is stupid - Oilerman
And 5 teams made that majoirty of the profits.
So the only way to increase the revenue pot is by adding more teams to contribute.
If every team contributes and every team benefits it's win win win in everyones eyes. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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By saying "everyone has to contribute $X million" you accomplish the exact same thing as if you only required those teams that need revenue sharing to kick in. Teams that receive revenue sharing don't get any more money by paying in themselves than they would by not paying in - but you get to couch it as "see, everyone participated!" in some kind of feel-good, do-nothing action.
Let's actually fix things, not think of how to make ourselves feel warm and fuzzy. - Irish Blues
That's the same take I had on it. It's Window Dressing. |
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Symba007
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON Joined: 02.26.2007
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Half of one, half the other, less then more and 2 times the fewest - HuileHab
Makes sense |
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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If each team is getting back the same amount as what they gave, then how does that change how the revenue is split up among teams? - MJL
The amounts would be much, much larger.
And each team's revenues would increase by $30 million, although there would have to be a clause in the new CBA that it wouldn't be considered HRR. |
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HuileHab
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: I eat richards for breakfast! - stormey Joined: 03.01.2010
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My point exactly.
The proposal doesn't make sense to me. First off, how can you ask teams LOSING money to contribute money? - Pen15
If it gets a deal done, let them contribute, not like they will be losing any more then they are. |
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Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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The amounts would be much, much larger.
And each team's revenues would increase by $30 million, although there would have to be a clause in the new CBA that it wouldn't be considered HRR. - Atomic Wedgie
Funds to be managed by Garth Drabinsky? |
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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Funds to be managed by Garth Drabinsky? - Canada Cup
My proposal is really gaining steam!
I just ran it by former LA Kings owner Bruce McNall, and he thinks it is brilliant! |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Gents you can only share what you made in profit, otherwise your business loses money. League wide combined profits added up to 260mil. Revenue sharing could not exceed this.
Last year the players pocketed 1.3 billion while the owners pocketed 260mil. That’s what this is all about. Player solution is for owners to spread around thier 260mil so that more of it ends up in player pockets.
This is why there will be no season. Current system is stupid - Oilerman
The players pocketed 1.883 Billion.
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HuileHab
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: I eat richards for breakfast! - stormey Joined: 03.01.2010
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The amounts would be much, much larger.
And each team's revenues would increase by $30 million, although there would have to be a clause in the new CBA that it wouldn't be considered HRR. - Atomic Wedgie
Oh for sure, the Revenue sharing is not directly related to hockey so it shouldn't be used to calculate the players share.
This proposal is making more and more sense as it develops.
Hopefully JVR and the other HB hockey players are reading this. |
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SPIDEROCKSTAR
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Location: Ugh.... your sooooo lucky I'm banned... 9 more days and your gonna get it... - HouseArrest187, QC Joined: 08.08.2010
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Your needle is broken. Get a new optimeter from ebay. |
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Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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My proposal is really gaining steam!
I just ran it by former LA Kings owner Bruce McNall, and he thinks it is brilliant! - Atomic Wedgie
I have Allan Eagleson on line 1 |
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HuileHab
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: I eat richards for breakfast! - stormey Joined: 03.01.2010
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Your needle is broken. Get a new optimeter from ebay. - SPIDEROCKSTAR
If someone could get Wedgies Idea to the Fehr's the Optimeter will fix its self in no time. |
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Oilerman
Season Ticket Holder Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Calgary, AB Joined: 09.30.2005
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The amounts would be much, much larger.
And each team's revenues would increase by $30 million, although there would have to be a clause in the new CBA that it wouldn't be considered HRR. - Atomic Wedgie
I wish this logic actually made senses in some magical world where the sky is pink and unicorns granted little children wishes.
I'd like Canada to adopt this same mystical accounting practise to transfer payments. Let’s get Quebec to toss in 20billion and see what they say.
Before responding, pull out a piece of paper and test your theory using math.
And by the way revenue and profit are two very different things, first you need to nail that concept
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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I wish this logic actually made senses in some magical world where the sky is pink and unicorns granted little children wishes.
I'd like Canada to adopt this same mystical accounting practise to transfer payments. Let’s get Quebec to toss in 20billion and see what they say.
Before responding, pull out a piece of paper and test your theory using math.
And by the way revenue and profit are two very different things, first you need to nail that concept - Oilerman
Quebec already uses accounting practices that are much more unorthodox than what I'm proposing. |
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Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 06.01.2011
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The amounts would be much, much larger.
And each team's revenues would increase by $30 million, although there would have to be a clause in the new CBA that it wouldn't be considered HRR. - Atomic Wedgie
You can't contribute negative revenue. |
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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I wish this logic actually made senses in some magical world where the sky is pink and unicorns granted little children wishes.
I'd like Canada to adopt this same mystical accounting practise to transfer payments. Let’s get Quebec to toss in 20billion and see what they say.
Before responding, pull out a piece of paper and test your theory using math.
And by the way revenue and profit are two very different things, first you need to nail that concept - Oilerman
Can I assume that last line was directed to MJL, not me? |
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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You can't contribute negative revenue. - Pen15
Komisarek contributes negatively all the time. |
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HuileHab
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: I eat richards for breakfast! - stormey Joined: 03.01.2010
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You can't contribute negative revenue. - Pen15
You can if it's not included in the HRR. |
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HuileHab
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: I eat richards for breakfast! - stormey Joined: 03.01.2010
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Komisarek contributes negatively all the time. - Atomic Wedgie
Check. Mate. |
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SPIDEROCKSTAR
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Location: Ugh.... your sooooo lucky I'm banned... 9 more days and your gonna get it... - HouseArrest187, QC Joined: 08.08.2010
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If someone could get Wedgies Idea to the Fehr's the Optimeter will fix its self in no time. - HuileHab
What's your idea Atomic Wedgie? |
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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You can if it's not included in the HRR. - HuileHab
Especially if you amortize it over 5 years. |
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LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders |
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Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16 Joined: 01.26.2011
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You can if it's not included in the HRR. - HuileHab
whats the History of Rock and Roll have to do with anything? |
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Chip McCleary
St Louis Blues |
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Location: Madison, WI Joined: 06.28.2008
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The amounts would be much, much larger.
And each team's revenues would increase by $30 million, although there would have to be a clause in the new CBA that it wouldn't be considered HRR. - Atomic Wedgie
I award 1500 HB points, redeemable at any local NHL team's official merchandise store, redeemable for about $0.0002 off your next purchase. |
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