source?
- Pen15

http://espn.go.com/nhl/st...oit-red-wings-source-says

and like a fart in the wind.. there goes the season
- Dozzer

Crap. The smell just hit me....

But that's the beauty of this idea: it's currently Atomic Wedgie's idea.

Whoever reads it first here on Hockeybuzz gets to propose it first.

That could be Fehr, it could be Bettman.

Whoever proposes it gets to be the guy who came up with the idea that broke the logjam, and saved the season.

That's a pretty big incentive, don't you think?
- Atomic Wedgie

Does anyone have JVR on their friend list? send him a PM with Wedgies idea, and hopefully he can pass it on to the Donald.

It has steadily been doing so every year. People watch the Winter Classic over the Rose Bowl, that is NOT happening 5-10 years ago. And I agree, the progress will resume, there's just no excuse for this. None.
- Ferrarimn7

Starting Next year, January 1st will likely be a BCS Playoff Game or 2 and that will blow the Winter Classic out of the water, if there is actually hockey next year.

Yes, but you are forgetting that you would also be receiving money from the pot.

Everybody wins.

And more importantly, everybody contributes, so all teams have an incentive to turn a profit.

I don't really see how the NHLPA could object to this.
- Atomic Wedgie

This makes zero sense. Are you claiming that a bottom feeder would contribute but receive a larger amount (making it a net gain)?

If so, why have them contribute at all?

But that's the beauty of this idea: it's currently Atomic Wedgie's idea.

Whoever reads it first here on Hockeybuzz gets to propose it first.

That could be Fehr, it could be Bettman.

Whoever proposes it gets to be the guy who came up with the idea that broke the logjam, and saved the season.

That's a pretty big incentive, don't you think?
- Atomic Wedgie

whoever breaks the logjam fist could probably run for prime minister of canada and win

Crap. The smell just hit me....
- systemtool

well played

whoever breaks the logjam fist could probably run for prime minister of canada and win
- Dozzer

Our PM is doing a pretty good job...so not as easy as one might think.

This makes zero sense. Are you claiming that a bottom feeder would contribute but receive a larger amount (making it a net gain)?

If so, why have them contribute at all?
- Pen15

If you knew you had a 30 million dollar bonus coming to you at the end of the year, if you contributed to the pot, Wouldn't you want to work harder so you could contribute to the pot?

source?
- Pen15

I couldn't find anything that says it has been canceled either...Kypreos said to expect announcement as early as 2pm.

I hate revenue sharing...why not let the weak teams die off, and move them into markets that are profitable? Or change the league to 24-28 teams...

This makes zero sense. Are you claiming that a bottom feeder would contribute but receive a larger amount (making it a net gain)?

If so, why have them contribute at all?
- Pen15

It's that kind of negative thinking that has got us here.

Are you happy that a quarter of the season has been cancelled so far?

You ever stop to think about the many lives that are impacted by the lockout? The people who work at the games, and the restaurants and bars that have seen less traffic due to no games?

You are no better than Fehr and Bettman.

Quit being so dismissive, and start considering new ways to structure the CBA so we can all get back to the game we love.

If you knew you had a 30 million dollar bonus coming to you at the end of the year, if you contributed to the pot, Wouldn't you want to work harder so you could contribute to the pot?
- HuileHab

Of course. But why have them contributing in the first place...that money ultimately get re-allocated right back to them.

Of course. But why have them contributing in the first place...that money ultimately get re-allocated right back to them.
- Pen15

Not all of it.

It's that kind of negative thinking that has got us here.

Are you happy that a quarter of the season has been cancelled so far?

You ever stop to think about the many lives that are impacted by the lockout? The people who work at the games, and the restaurants and bars that have seen less traffic due to no games?

You are no better than Fehr and Bettman.

Quit being so dismissive, and start considering new ways to structure the CBA so we can all get back to the game we love.
- Atomic Wedgie

Sorry bud. Why don't you explain it to me then? I'm having a hard time understanding how asking bottom feeders to contribute to revenue sharing will get us hockey again?

Not all of it.
- HuileHab

So what would the allocation breakdown be?

Yes, but you are forgetting that you would also be receiving money from the pot.

Everybody wins.

And more importantly, everybody contributes, so all teams have an incentive to turn a profit.

I don't really see how the NHLPA could object to this.
- Atomic Wedgie

By saying "everyone has to contribute $X million" you accomplish the exact same thing as if you only required those teams that need revenue sharing to kick in. Teams that receive revenue sharing don't get any more money by paying in themselves than they would by not paying in - but you get to couch it as "see, everyone participated!" in some kind of feel-good, do-nothing action.

Let's actually fix things, not think of how to make ourselves feel warm and fuzzy.

I couldn't find anything that says it has been canceled either...Kypreos said to expect announcement as early as 2pm.

I hate revenue sharing...why not let the weak teams die off, and move them into markets that are profitable? Or change the league to 24-28 teams...
- BoBBeR56

http://espn.go.com/nhl/st...oit-red-wings-source-says

buddy at the top of the page posted it.

So what would the allocation breakdown be?
- Pen15

Half of one, half the other, less then more and 2 times the fewest

By saying "everyone has to contribute $X million" you accomplish the exact same thing as if you only required those teams that need revenue sharing to kick in. Teams that receive revenue sharing don't get any more money by paying in themselves than they would by not paying in - but you get to couch it as "see, everyone participated!" in some kind of feel-good, do-nothing action.

Let's actually fix things, not think of how to make ourselves feel warm and fuzzy.
- Irish Blues

The meter is moving upwards.

By saying "everyone has to contribute $X million" you accomplish the exact same thing as if you only required those teams that need revenue sharing to kick in. Teams that receive revenue sharing don't get any more money by paying in themselves than they would by not paying in - but you get to couch it as "see, everyone participated!" in some kind of feel-good, do-nothing action.

Let's actually fix things, not think of how to make ourselves feel warm and fuzzy.
- Irish Blues

But all the PA has been trying to do is repackage their first proposal with the the same outcome of nothing changing. Atleast this is a new idea that no one has thought of that could pull the wool over some eyes.

The NHL will come back. The players will come back. This will all be a lousy memory

Yeah, until the next lockout.

They need to fix the problem once and for all. Sick of this sh!t.

By saying "everyone has to contribute $X million" you accomplish the exact same thing as if you only required those teams that need revenue sharing to kick in. Teams that receive revenue sharing don't get any more money by paying in themselves than they would by not paying in - but you get to couch it as "see, everyone participated!" in some kind of feel-good, do-nothing action.

Let's actually fix things, not think of how to make ourselves feel warm and fuzzy.
- Irish Blues

Gents you can only share what you made in profit, otherwise your business loses money. League wide combined profits added up to 260mil. Revenue sharing could not exceed this.

Last year the players pocketed 1.3 billion while the owners pocketed 260mil. That’s what this is all about. Player solution is for owners to spread around thier 260mil so that more of it ends up in player pockets.

This is why there will be no season. Current system is stupid

By saying "everyone has to contribute $X million" you accomplish the exact same thing as if you only required those teams that need revenue sharing to kick in. Teams that receive revenue sharing don't get any more money by paying in themselves than they would by not paying in - but you get to couch it as "see, everyone participated!" in some kind of feel-good, do-nothing action.

Let's actually fix things, not think of how to make ourselves feel warm and fuzzy.
- Irish Blues

NHLPA is demanding increased revenue sharing.

My proposal triples the revenue sharing pot, yet makes it so that the high-income earning teams wouldn't object.

How can you say that's "do-nothing?"

You people really lack big-picture thinking capabilities.

I'm tripling the revenue-sharing pool!

No, you still aren't getting it.

Toronto, Philly, NY, Montreal, etc. would be getting back the same amount as the other teams.

That's why they would support it.
- Atomic Wedgie

If each team is getting back the same amount as what they gave, then how does that change how the revenue is split up among teams?