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Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Nov 2 @ 7:43 PM ET
Alan Walsh is such a big-mouthed windbag, that he even makes my ranting seem normal.

The world would be a better place if he fell off a cliff
.

- JDJ

and nobody would show up at his funeral.....most fans hate the (frank)er
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Nov 2 @ 7:44 PM ET
"John Shannon at Sportsnet confirmed Dreger's report, but mentioned qualifiers.
- Feeling_Glucky


Yeah, "qualifiers"... which probably render the concessions fairly meaningless... or at least not all that significant.

So will the PA now counter with a offer based on all their previous offers? Will they tell us that they have made concessions on make whole. It seems they just say anything they want without it actually being true.

The NHL tells half-truths and misleading statements to play the PR game and the PA just blatantly outright lies so they can play too.

Cancel the season already.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Nov 2 @ 7:46 PM ET
Both sides are still playing the "media" card....
- Symba007


It is like the ONLY thing they are concerned with is purposely lieing to or trying to mislead the fans and the other side.

As if the PA can't figure out when nothing has changed. As if the owners can't figure out in 2 minutes flat that the PA has not budged.

Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Nov 2 @ 7:46 PM ET
Yeah, "qualifiers"... which probably render the concessions fairly meaningless... or at least not close...

So will the PA now counter with a offer based on all their previous offers? Will they tell us that they have made concessions on make whole. It seems they just say anything they want without it actually being true.

The NHL tells half-truths and misleading statements to play the PR game and the PA just blatantly outright lies so they can play too.

Cancel the season already.

- Aetherial

Agreed
steveb12344
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Toronto won't be trading Gardi, SK
Joined: 05.13.2012

Nov 2 @ 7:50 PM ET
Yeah, "qualifiers"... which probably render the concessions fairly meaningless... or at least not all that significant.

So will the PA now counter with a offer based on all their previous offers? Will they tell us that they have made concessions on make whole. It seems they just say anything they want without it actually being true.

The NHL tells half-truths and misleading statements to play the PR game and the PA just blatantly outright lies so they can play too.

Cancel the season already.

- Aetherial

Sadly, this is excactly what has been happening.
Snagglepuss
Joined: 08.07.2012

Nov 2 @ 7:58 PM ET
maybe a glimmer of hope
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

Nov 2 @ 8:41 PM ET
Mario was right all those years ago..the NHL is a garage league that can't get out of its own way.

Its run by arrogant, small minded people with no vision, who have no compunction about holding its customers hostage, AGAIN and AGAIN. Both the NHLPA and the owners should be ASHAMED.

I don't know what's more pathetic, the fact that this is still going on or the fact that I still care.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Nov 2 @ 8:44 PM ET
Mario was right all those years ago..the NHL is a garage league that can't get out of its own way.

Its run by arrogant, small minded people with no vision, who have no compunction about holding its customers hostage, AGAIN and AGAIN. Both the NHLPA and the owners should be ASHAMED.

I don't know what's more pathetic, the fact that this is still going on or the fact that I still care.

- Emperor Filonius

and yet Mario is now part owner of the team
flamminghead
Calgary Flames
Location: As good as they are in the off, AB
Joined: 09.02.2009

Nov 2 @ 8:48 PM ET
Honestly I think the Classic being cancled is good news. The NHLPA was probably hoping to use the Classic as a bargaining chip. Now they know they don't have that leverage so they will be more likely to concede.
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

Nov 2 @ 8:54 PM ET
and yet Mario is now part owner of the team
- Symba007


That irony is not lost on me, but it doesn't change the truth.
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Nov 2 @ 9:08 PM ET
That irony is not lost on me, but it doesn't change the truth.
- Emperor Filonius




For shame, Mario. For shame.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Nov 2 @ 9:44 PM ET
and nobody would show up at his funeral.....most fans hate the (frank)er
- Symba007


20 bucks says he gets more at his, than you do at yours.

challenge.. accepted?
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Nov 2 @ 9:46 PM ET
20 bucks says he gets more at his, than you do at yours.

challenge.. accepted?

- joel878




I'd go to Sam's funeral. I wouldn't go to Walsh's.



Symba 1. Walsh 0.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Nov 2 @ 10:06 PM ET
I'd go to Sam's funeral. I wouldn't go to Walsh's.



Symba 1. Walsh 0.

- weirdoh

that's it, it's official

joel878=allan walsh......

it explains the total bias in his post
D.Lemieux
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: TRADE ME RIGHT FRANKING NOW
Joined: 06.18.2012

Nov 2 @ 10:06 PM ET
lol....your a joke bud, get real.

- C.J

Just reading these responses to my earlier post now.
Thank you for setting me straight CJ. Yes that's what I meant. There are 9 year olds that are better hockey players than NHLers.

Kind of missed the entire point of my post.

If there is ever a girl out there drunk enough to let you climb on top of her for 3 minutes and you end up having a kid.. You will understand what I meant.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Nov 2 @ 10:10 PM ET
that's it, it's official

joel878=allan walsh......

it explains the total bias in his post

- Symba007



yeah, you read that all wrong. i cant stand allan walsh, i just find the idea of your funeral more appealing than his. not for going either.

Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Nov 2 @ 10:15 PM ET
yeah, you read that all wrong. i cant stand allan walsh, i just find the idea of your funeral more appealing than his. not for going either.


- joel878

weirdoh said he'd come to mine
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Nov 2 @ 10:20 PM ET
weirdoh said he'd come to mine
- Symba007


awe.. that's special though.
Chip McCleary
St Louis Blues
Location: Madison, WI
Joined: 06.28.2008

Nov 2 @ 10:38 PM ET
yeah, you read that all wrong. i cant stand allan walsh, i just find the idea of your funeral more appealing than his. not for going either.
- joel878



You're throwing away a perfect opportunity to turn this into free money for yourself. You're supposed to find out what one side will give for you to go to his funeral, take that offer to the other side, and bid it up.

Good luck - and remember, I get 10% of the final winning bid as a consulting fee for providing this idea. You're welcome in advance.
BigStew
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.09.2007

Nov 2 @ 10:41 PM ET
Absolutely correct - but then the question is "how do you fix it?"

1. Eliminate it completely - probably not something the NHLPA will accept, especially since it sets up the likelihood that with a cap in place, the players get underpaid relative to what they should get until escrow evens things out 3-4 months after the fact.

2. Open the spread between the cap and the floor - works as a short-term solution (and may not be a terrible idea anyway) but is not a complete fix since inevitably revenue growth will drive the floor up ... and since high-revenue teams are responsible for more of the revenue growth, they will (again) inevitably push the floor higher than low-revenue teams can keep up with.

3. Cap revenues from the top-10- teams in the calculation of the cap. This is my suggested solution, and has been for months now. This puts more weight on revenue growth from the rest of the league, but recognizes part of the revenue growth from those top teams, while capping it at a percentage (102.5% to 105%) of the revenues of the #11 team.

I'm sure there's other ways to do it, but those are probably the 3 most likely scenarios.

- Irish Blues


If this goes longer than a year it wouldn't surprise me if there is a hard cap with no floor and no link to revenue. You have 1/3 of the NHLPA playing under this currently in Europe and don't seem to concerned about it.
C.J
New York Rangers
Location: e=rumorĀ²
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 2 @ 10:43 PM ET
Just reading these responses to my earlier post now.
Thank you for setting me straight CJ. Yes that's what I meant. There are 9 year olds that are better hockey players than NHLers.

Kind of missed the entire point of my post.

If there is ever a girl out there drunk enough to let you climb on top of her for 3 minutes and you end up having a kid.. You will understand what I meant.

- D.Lemieux


I am a girl you simpleton.....


And thanks for letting us know how your kid was conceived
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Nov 2 @ 10:49 PM ET
I am a girl you simpleton.....


And thanks for letting us know how your kid was conceived

- C.J



there's no way you're legitimately a female.. and would actually come back to this site.

gonna have to call that bluff.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Nov 2 @ 10:54 PM ET


You're throwing away a perfect opportunity to turn this into free money for yourself. You're supposed to find out what one side will give for you to go to his funeral, take that offer to the other side, and bid it up.

Good luck - and remember, I get 10% of the final winning bid as a consulting fee for providing this idea. You're welcome in advance.

- Irish Blues




he couldnt afford me..
D.Lemieux
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: TRADE ME RIGHT FRANKING NOW
Joined: 06.18.2012

Nov 2 @ 11:15 PM ET
I am a girl you simpleton.....


And thanks for letting us know how your kid was conceived

- C.J


So let me get this straight you are one of 2 things .

A guy lying about being a girl in order to try to win an argument on a hockey blog website

Or

A girl on a hockey blog website whose avatar is a girl sucking on a banana

Either way I'm pretty sure it's not me who's the loser.

flamminghead
Calgary Flames
Location: As good as they are in the off, AB
Joined: 09.02.2009

Nov 2 @ 11:48 PM ET
So let me get this straight you are one of 2 things .

A guy lying about being a girl in order to try to win an argument on a hockey blog website

Or

A girl on a hockey blog website whose avatar is a girl sucking on a banana

Either way I'm pretty sure it's not me who's the loser.

- D.Lemieux

It's prpbably a lesbian.
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