Still amazes me that people think this. Edmonton's defense last year was middle of the league. Their big issue was that they were peiced together with AHLers due to all the injuries.

Calgary is seen as having a great defense and goalie. They had 151 even strength goals against last year.

Edmonton is seen as having a horrible D and average goalie, yet they let in only 153 even strength goals against...

Strange.
- Iggysbff

not really. we only had 1 regular starter out for a serious amount of time.
injuries happen to every team, it's part of the game.
and to use 1 guy out as an excuse is weak.

our depth, or lack thereof, is in direct correlation to how good ones defence is or isnt. just ask the contenders.
when ur starters are mediocre and ur depth is missing. this means u have a bad defence.

a developing petry, peckham, sutton, teubert, whitney on one leg,???!!!! it amazes me that anyone would try and say this group from last year is anything but bad.

not really. we only had 1 regular starter out for a serious amount of time.
injuries happen to every team, its a part of the game. and to use 1 guy out as an excuse is weak.
the depth we have or dont have is in direct correlation to how good ones defence is or isnt. just ask the contenders. when ur starters are mediocre and ur depth is missing. this means u have a bad defence.

a developing petry, peckham, sutton, teubert, whitney on one leg,???!!!! it amazes me that anyone would try and say this group from last year is anything but bad.
- hugefemale dog77

We are lucky that Petry and Smid had such decent seasons, that and Potter was quite decent all things considered.

I have Faith in Dubs! Let him get a chance as a starter.

Canucks needs are top 6 forward, third line center or tough top 6 D .

Canucks are not getting one of Oilers top 4 forwards and Gagner is not top 6 forward yet . So it will not be for a top 6 forward.

Oilers IMO don't have a better third line center that what we already have ,so it won't be Horcoff

That leaves a Dman. For Canucks to hand over a 35 game winner /average over the last 7 years to a division rival for scraps will not happen. It has to be a wow Dman . That comes down to Schultz or Peckham . You just signed the young stud Schultz so very unlikely it's him.

The only thing reasonable enough to make the Canucks make such a dumb move would be Peckham.

I am not sure if Tambo says we have a hole on the D so we need Tanev also.

I think it is Peckham Khabby for Luongo Tanev
- VANTEL

I'm not one of those expecting a king's ransom for Luongo, but that is an awful trade.

I have Faith in Dubs! Let him get a chance as a starter.
- Killbot460

he worries me...... but yes, he deserves his shot to be the true starter

I have Faith in Dubs! Let him get a chance as a starter.
- Killbot460

I've kinda considered him the starter for like the past year.

I'm not one of those expecting a king's ransom for Luongo, but that is an awful trade.
- Nucker101

Let's hear your trade.

I've kinda considered him the starter for like the past year.
- Jack-artist

Problem is he becomes the starter when the games are meaningless.

We are lucky that Petry and Smid had such decent seasons, that and Potter was quite decent all things considered.
- Lahey

yep

if not for potters EARLY success, smid strong play, and petrys rapid ascension around january, it coulda been a total disaster.

not to say 29th isnt a disaster, but we remained competetive and were a far better team than the previous year

Let's hear your trade.
- VANTEL

You know, I've seen you post about 1478 times and to be honest I have no idea if you are a good knowledgeable poster or a fukin troll. But everytime you post I just giggle like a school girl because your avatar is gold.

Problem is he becomes the starter when the games are meaningless.
- Lahey

+1000

we'll see. wasnt he pretty mediocre in november/december when the wheels came off for us? khabby came back to earth after octoberish and they both played...meh

anyone remember specifics?

+1000

we'll see. wasnt he pretty mediocre in november/december when the wheels came off for us? khabby came back to earth after octoberish and they both played...meh

anyone remember specifics?
- hugefemale dog77

That's pretty accurate. I had specifics somewhere, but I don't feel like looking for them.

I have nothing against the guy and I'm not opposed to him getting the shot at #1, but there is a big difference from being the #1 out of the gate and becoming one when poop don't matter and the guy in front of you loses his job.

And it's not like we haven't seen this before.

Let's hear your trade.
- VANTEL

I don't see him going to Edmonton, but wouldn't rule it out completely if they have the best offer. Peckham is a 6-7 d-man, we basically already have that type of a player in Alberts. Perhaps something with Hemsky, since they both have similar cap hits and would be upgrades(as starting goalie and 2nd line winger). Again, I don't see Edmonton as a great trade partner since I think they really like Dubnyk who was really solid down the stretch last year and IMO has a good chance to a be a solid starter in the NHL. If I were the GM of the Oilers, I'd be very weary of taking on such a long-term contract for a 33 year old goalie when I already have a promising(and cheap) goalie and some young players coming up that I'll have to re-sign in the future which could be a problem if the cap is reduces and there aren't rollbacks.

I don't see him going to Edmonton, but wouldn't rule it out completely if they have the best offer. Peckham is a 6-7 d-man, we basically already have that type of a player in Alberts. Perhaps something with Hemsky, since they both have similar cap hits and would be upgrades(as starting goalie and 2nd line winger). Again, I don't see Edmonton as a great trade partner since I think they really like Dubnyk who was really solid down the stretch last year and IMO has a good chance to a be a solid starter in the NHL. If I were the GM of the Oilers, I'd be very weary of taking on such a long-term contract for a 33 year old goalie when I already have a promising(and cheap) goalie and some young players coming up that I'll have to re-sign in the future which could be a problem if the cap is reduces and there aren't rollbacks.
- Nucker101

im sure everyone's well aware, but i dont care. posting it anyway!
amped!!

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=408621

I don't see him going to Edmonton, but wouldn't rule it out completely if they have the best offer. Peckham is a 6-7 d-man, we basically already have that type of a player in Alberts. Perhaps something with Hemsky, since they both have similar cap hits and would be upgrades(as starting goalie and 2nd line winger). Again, I don't see Edmonton as a great trade partner since I think they really like Dubnyk who was really solid down the stretch last year and IMO has a good chance to a be a solid starter in the NHL. If I were the GM of the Oilers, I'd be very weary of taking on such a long-term contract for a 33 year old goalie when I already have a promising(and cheap) goalie and some young players coming up that I'll have to re-sign in the future which could be a problem if the cap is reduces and there aren't rollbacks.
- Nucker101

OK I was listening to the 1040 crew when the announcement came over the wire and they discussed the possibilty of who would come back. Price and Sekeres both said taking back Hemsky would be a horrible deal for Vancouver. A cap hit of 5 mil for a guy that scores 10 goals and misses so many games. It is their opinion not mine but I do agree with them . I think anyone who misses so much you don't want to take on that contract. He reminds me of Havlat.

We are not getting a top 4 D man or 1 st rounder for LU.

On our D we have Hamhuis whom I would rate as a #2 Dman and then Garrison Edler and Bieksa whom I would rate as #3/4 type Dmen.

We need a number 5/6 type someone who is tough and can fight. That is a Peckham Murray type . Alberts could not fight to save his life. I would lay down money on Raymond in a UFA raymond/Alberts fight.

If we can squeeze (and that is a efn big IF Then Gillis should go for it.

We are not getting an OILER star player or #1 pick

We don't want their throw awways

There ae only about 3 or 4 players left that would be worth considering.


I Don't see him going to Edmonton either .I am playing the what if game

I don't know if you Oilers fans have seen this yet:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=408616

Let's hope for the best.
- Atomic Wedgie

I'm sure Phil Kessel will help him through this.

You know, I've seen you post about 1478 times and to be honest I have no idea if you are a good knowledgeable poster or a fukin troll. But everytime you post I just giggle like a school girl because your avatar is gold.
- Lahey

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I don't see him going to Edmonton, but wouldn't rule it out completely if they have the best offer. Peckham is a 6-7 d-man, we basically already have that type of a player in Alberts. Perhaps something with Hemsky, since they both have similar cap hits and would be upgrades(as starting goalie and 2nd line winger). Again, I don't see Edmonton as a great trade partner since I think they really like Dubnyk who was really solid down the stretch last year and IMO has a good chance to a be a solid starter in the NHL. If I were the GM of the Oilers, I'd be very weary of taking on such a long-term contract for a 33 year old goalie when I already have a promising(and cheap) goalie and some young players coming up that I'll have to re-sign in the future which could be a problem if the cap is reduces and there aren't rollbacks.
- Nucker101

Well said. Plus its rare division rivals make trades let alone big names like Luongo.

I hear the leafs may hav interest. I could See kadri wanting out as he hasn't had a legit chance and they seem to give up on him. Maybe Kadri + some cap hit and a pick going to the nucks in return for luuuuuu.

That's pretty accurate. I had specifics somewhere, but I don't feel like looking for them.

I have nothing against the guy and I'm not opposed to him getting the shot at #1, but there is a big difference from being the #1 out of the gate and becoming one when poop don't matter and the guy in front of you loses his job.

And it's not like we haven't seen this before.
- Lahey

Really tho- odds are Dubey would have fuct the streak in oct and nov last year and in all honesty if your management you always go with the proven goalie until he fails... dubey got some chances to take the reigns and he did not exactly give a vote of confidence that he would be the real deal... Not saying he could not eventually become that guy... just saying if u get an opportunity take advantage of it... NOW we are paying him to prove himself so he better deliver otherwise trade for someone who will... last year he kept us in games then let softies in towards the end which deflated the team... further goalies can make or break - you can get away with wins with a good goalie... Calgary has been doing it for years!

Well said. Plus its rare division rivals make trades let alone big names like Luongo.

I hear the leafs may hav interest. I could See kadri wanting out as he hasn't had a legit chance and they seem to give up on him. Maybe Kadri + some cap hit and a pick going to the nucks in return for luuuuuu.
- Killbot460

If anything the leafs really fuct up Kadri's level of confidence... Odds are a new start would be best for all!

Really tho- odds are Dubey would have fuct the streak in oct and nov last year and in all honesty if your management you always go with the proven goalie until he fails... dubey got some chances to take the reigns and he did not exactly give a vote of confidence that he would be the real deal... Not saying he could not eventually become that guy... just saying if u get an opportunity take advantage of it... NOW we are paying him to prove himself so he better deliver otherwise trade for someone who will... last year he kept us in games then let softies in towards the end which deflated the team... further goalies can make or break - you can get away with wins with a good goalie... Calgary has been doing it for years!
- saskoil21

This is more how I saw it.

He was sat for such a long time at the start of the season because the worst thing happened, Khabby caught lightning in a bottle. By the time the team went to Dubey I bet his confidence was gone and he was never given a long leash. When the reigns were given to him in earnest he took over and got himself over the hump.

He has never been given the chance at the start of a season to be the guy...here it is...now he needs to be given a full length of leash to play through weak spells and right himself again.

Very interesting perspective on the lockout by Larry Quinn who was a guest of Paul McCann's and Pete Weber's on SlapShot Radio the other night. He is alleging that there may be a campaign of misinformation going on in the negotiations. It's worth a listen.

http://assets.sbnation.co.../Larry_Quinn_10-31-12.mp3

The full podcast is available on Slapshot Radio website. http://slapshotradio.com/podcasts.html

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- Predaceous

Awesome interview...

If anything the leafs really fuct up Kadri's level of confidence... Odds are a new start would be best for all!
- saskoil21

for some reason i see Calgary or Van a good fit

Awesome interview...
- OilHorse