Vancouver woukd not want a 5 million dollar injury prone guy that scored 10 goals last year . I know he is a decent playmaker but no thanks.
- VANTEL

I disagree. I believe Vancouver could use him.

Beside the Sedins you guys lack fire power up front. Hemsky might be injury prone but he is a bonafide top line player.

I don't know if would be that exact maybe a second also from Oilers seeing Tanev is a decent prospect . Remember I did say also, I don't think we will be dealing . If there were no other takers it could happen but very unlikely. Gillis would be in desperate mode for that .
- VANTEL

I know, but I'd rather discuss the implications of a such a deal rather than shoot it down and be left with nothing more to ponder, discuss, or argue. I'm about 95% certain that VAN wouldn't send Lu to the Oilers. For obvious reasons, of course.

Vancouver woukd not want a 5 million dollar injury prone guy that scored 10 goals last year . I know he is a decent playmaker but no thanks.
- VANTEL

Understandable initial reaction, but what if he were to come back next season and score say... between 45-52 points in a 60 game, lockout shortened season. Would you then be interested in him as the set-up man Kesler has needed for oh so many years? The question lies in whether you'd rather buy low on a player with a proven offensive history and assume the risk that he doesn't reach those numbers again, or would you rather wait until he's proven the ability to achieve those numbers and buy at market price? This doesn't necessarily have to apply to Hemsky alone, but for the sake of maintaining the focus of this thread, let's try.

Vancouver woukd not want a 5 million dollar injury prone guy that scored 10 goals last year . I know he is a decent playmaker but no thanks.
- VANTEL

Yeah, but it's for two years. You essentially dump six years of his contract and convert the other two from a position that you have no need for (goaltending) to a position that you could use (top 6 winger).

Neither is likely to happen but it seems like gretzky's deal is a considerably better haul than Khabby and Peckham.

Yeah, but it's for two years. You essentially dump six years of his contract and convert the other two from a position that you have no need for (goaltending) to a position that you could use (top 6 winger).

Neither is likely to happen but it seems like gretzky's deal is a considerably better haul than Khabby and Peckham.
- Morris

You could also tell Canucks Fans that it's actually only a one year deal, as you are sure he will retire early. It sorta bumps up a players value in their minds.

If you guys want Luongo you'll have to give us Eberle, Smid + 1st.
- Scooby_Doo

You can have Horcoff, Bulin, Potter and a Joey Moss track suit from the glory years.

Luongo is forcing a trade, which kills his value.

The fact he has to be traded kills his value but he's forcing a trade???

I think pulling him in the playoffs and going with Schneider was the signal that a trade would be coming. Signing Schneider to an extension was another signal.

Stating Luongo is forcing a trade is inaccurate at best. It's one thing to constantly hammer the Canucks and their fans but at least look at things objectively.

Horcoff would not be coming back . Why would Vancouver reward Edmonto and punish ourselves.

I don't think Lu is going there either.
- VANTEL

According to your blogger Horc is a good piece for your team. A contract is going back, that contract on Edm is Horc because Khabby is done this year.

The next CBA, with it's new content, will determine what kind of value he has. Right now everyone is basing their assumptions on the previous CBA. If the Nucks do have to eat his salary should he retire early, that changes a lot of things!

Dubnyk and Reimer are on par with each other. Good luck.
- Scooby_Doo

If you are believing that then you are ignorant of the facts

According to your blogger Horc is a good piece for your team. A contract is going back, that contract on Edm is Horc because Khabby is done this year.
- OilHorse

Thankfully he doesnt' actually have any input on decisions regarding the team!

Luongo for Hemsky+Dubnyk+Jones

I would actually do it.
- gretzky

Back to fries rookie.

Tim Thomas for Yakupov

Thankfully he doesnt' actually have any input on decisions regarding the team!
- LeftCoaster

About the same place as the rest of us....imagine that....

So why think your decisions are better than his, or ours.

Think Edm and Van are trading Lu between them? Then Horc needs to go back the other way. But go ahead and believe that Gillis will get the world for Lu...then sit back and see your team unable to sign anyone because they have too tight to the Cap.

The fact he has to be traded kills his value but he's forcing a trade???

I think pulling him in the playoffs and going with Schneider was the signal that a trade would be coming. Signing Schneider to an extension was another signal.

Stating Luongo is forcing a trade is inaccurate at best. It's one thing to constantly hammer the Canucks and their fans but at least look at things objectively.
- dawgzhouse

When the player comes out and says he thinks it's best that he be moved he is forcing a deal.

Brian Elliot was statistically one of the best goalies in the league last year and I wouldn't feel confident with him as my #1 either.

Goaltending is about long term consistency. Who knows whether Dubnyk can stay consistent over the years. I hope he can but I have my doubts.

Luongo is one of the very few "proven" goalies in the league available for a relatively low return. I wouldn't give up anything too significant for him, but at the cost of an injury prone 1st liner in Hemsky, 3rd liner Jones, and a ? goalie in Dubnyk it's worth the risk, IMO.
- gretzky

Here lies the problem, if he were able to be had for a low return then he would have been dealt. Gillis thinks he has had the upper hand in all this.

About the same place as the rest of us....imagine that....

So why think your decisions are better than his, or ours.

Think Edm and Van are trading Lu between them? Then Horc needs to go back the other way. But go ahead and believe that Gillis will get the world for Lu...then sit back and see your team unable to sign anyone because they have too tight to the Cap.
- OilHorse

I wasn't aware I made any decisions?

How is Horcoffs contract better than Luongo's enlighten me.
- pker2theend

There's only two years left on it and not a decade, and it doesn't take him till he's what, 42?

Canucks needs are top 6 forward, third line center or tough top 6 D .

Canucks are not getting one of Oilers top 4 forwards and Gagner is not top 6 forward yet . So it will not be for a top 6 forward.

Oilers IMO don't have a better third line center that what we already have ,so it won't be Horcoff

That leaves a Dman. For Canucks to hand over a 35 game winner /average over the last 7 years to a division rival for scraps will not happen. It has to be a wow Dman . That comes down to Schultz or Peckham . You just signed the young stud Schultz so very unlikely it's him.

The only thing reasonable enough to make the Canucks make such a dumb move would be Peckham.

I am not sure if Tambo says we have a hole on the D so we need Tanev also.

I think it is Peckham Khabby for Luongo Tanev
- VANTEL

DONE!

If you think Pekham is a wow Dman you are delusional. If the Oil had a healthy team over the last few years, he would never have seen the NHL. He's an AHLer that will get the occasional call up. Nothing more. Khabby is off the books at the end of the year.

So basically you are giving us Lou and Tanev for nothing.

Thanks!

I did a little....I bet Laughs will give a reach around to Gillis if this came true...and Pecks to Tanev is an upgrade as far as i am concerned
- OilHorse

If it happened Laughs would give Gillis the rusty trombone...

I understand Edmontons interest in Lou. But I just cant see Gillis dealing him to a division rival without something like a Ganger and a first kinda thing. Gillis' standards are pretty high.
- vancity787

Van fans neeed to realize...There is no way any team is giving up a first for Lou. The draft is too deep this year.

I wasn't aware I made any decisions?
- LeftCoaster

Then why comment about others that don't just like you...we all understand what is going on here...discussion...

If it happened Laughs would give Gillis the rusty trombone...
- Iggysbff

He is a dirty slut that way...I think he gets it from his sister

Tim Thomas for Yakupov
- glove_was_stuck

Khabibulin for Seguin

Khabibulin for Seguin
- RichardHertz

Deal!!! (Takes another pull from crack pipe)