I understand Edmontons interest in Lou. But I just cant see Gillis dealing him to a division rival without something like a Ganger and a first kinda thing. Gillis' standards are pretty high.

Horcoff would not be coming back . Why would Vancouver reward Edmonto and punish ourselves.

I don't think Lu is going there either.
- VANTEL

why would edm (frank) their cap up? tell me that. they have a ton of prospects that need to be resigned in a few years IMO Tambi saw what happened to the hawks. How is giving edm LU rewarding us? He has a bad attitude and can't stop a beach ball when the games actually mean poop.

I understand Edmontons interest in Lou. But I just cant see Gillis dealing him to a division rival without something like a Ganger and a first kinda thing. Gillis' standards are pretty high.
- vancity787

And thats why Gillis will have to hang on to him.

As well Dubs said he spoke with oil brass and they said they are willing to give him a shot as the number 1, i can't see the oilers going out and adding a starting goalie to their roster after the raise duby got.

And thats why Gillis will have to hang on to him.

As well Dubs said he spoke with oil brass and they said they are willing to give him a shot as the number 1, i can't see the oilers going out and adding a starting goalie to their roster after the raise duby got.
- Killbot460

Dubnyk and Reimer are on par with each other. Good luck.

Dubnyk and Reimer are on par with each other. Good luck.
- Scooby_Doo

oilers go up canucks go down...... can't wait for NHL to start sometime.

oilers go up canucks go down...... can't wait for NHL to start sometime.
- Killbot460

Sounds like laughs2907 goes down.

Sounds like laughs2907 goes down.
- Scooby_Doo

Only when your girlfriend visits

Only when your girlfriend visits
- laughs2907

I'm fine with that, as long as my wife doesn't find out about her.

Luongo for Hemsky+Dubnyk+Jones

I would actually do it.

I'm fine with that, as long as my wife doesn't find out about her.
- Scooby_Doo

...The only thing reasonable enough to make the Canucks make such a dumb move would be Peckham.

I am not sure if Tambo says we have a hole on the D so we need Tanev also.

I think it is Peckham Khabby for Luongo Tanev
- VANTEL

Assuming the CBA works out to force the cap hit of a retired player back on their old team, then I'd add a 2014 3rd (maybe a 2nd) to perhaps even the value out. Great proposal, VANTEL!

Wow... those are three words I never thought I'd say.

Luongo for Hemsky+Dubnyk+Jones

I would actually do it.
- gretzky

That why your behind the computer

Assuming the CBA works out to force the cap hit of a retired player back on their old team, then I'd add a 2014 3rd (maybe a 2nd) to perhaps even the value out. Great proposal, VANTEL!

Wow... those are three words I never thought I'd say.
- MaximumBone

Only thing is Pecks brings functional toughness... who else do we have? Yeah teubert ko'd a guy that was in full turtle mode. Eager is up in the air, hordi is a 6 min player. Need a couple of physical players.

Luongo for Hemsky+Dubnyk+Jones

I would actually do it.
- gretzky

I would if Luongo was 29 and didn't have 10 years left on his contract.

I would if Luongo was 29 and didn't have 10 years left on his contract.
- Jack-artist

Years left doesn't matter. It's when he retires. We aren't going to get a bonafide #1 goalie for less and no Dubnyk is not a bonafide #1.

I'm ready to start winning.

why would edm (frank) their cap up? tell me that. they have a ton of prospects that need to be resigned in a few years IMO Tambi saw what happened to the hawks. How is giving edm LU rewarding us? He has a bad attitude and can't stop a beach ball when the games actually mean poop.
- Killbot460

You're not wrong to think that way, in fact you have all right to, but you really under-sell Luongo's skill and accomplishments and overestimate the effect his contract will have on our cap. He's an all-star quality starter in the NHL who would give us a great opportunity to make the playoffs not only this coming year, but also for a good deal of years to come. He could also play an important mentorship role with up-and-comers like Tyler Bunz, Olivier Roy, and Samu Perhonen. He would also free us up the opportunity to trade a guy like Dubnyk to a team looking for a potential starter/1A goaltender. I feel he could bring in a healthy return to possibly fill another one of our roster wholes. Who knows? With a goalie of Luongo's caliber we may not even need to shore up our defense like we think we do! How nice would that be?

Yes his contract runs at 5.3mil for the next 8 years, and yes his performances in the playoffs of late haven't been all too awe inspiring, but it's not like the Canucks got to the Finals in spite of him. With no other contracts besides Hall and Eberle running past 2015 we have a good deal of wiggle room. If you're so concerned about his contract, why aren't you concerned about how we'd hold onto all of our young stars as it sits now? As much as I hate to say it, chances are we'll have to trade one of them away before they're all signed.

Another potential outcome of taking him on is that he plays for us for a few years, we make the playoffs and start attracting FA's for once and then he retires just in time for one of our prospects to take the wheel. Or perhaps we buy him out.

While I'm not necessarily in support of this deal, I do see the potential benefits from such a venture and like what I see. To me it comes down to what we'd give up. If what Mr. VANTEL posted earlier about the deal being Peckham and Khabby for Luongo and Tanev, then I would be a fool not to at least really consider it.

Years left doesn't matter. It's when he retires. We aren't going to get a bonafide #1 goalie for less and no Dubnyk is not a bonafide #1.

I'm ready to start winning.
- gretzky

Dubnyk was the 14th (I think) best goaltender in the league last year, and he played behind one of the league's worst defense. He's pretty good. He's definitely not the problem.

Only thing is Pecks brings functional toughness... who else do we have? Yeah teubert ko'd a guy that was in full turtle mode. Eager is up in the air, hordi is a 6 min player. Need a couple of physical players.
- Killbot460

*Borderline functional toughness

With current free agents like Mark Eaton, Randy Jones, and Colin White, upcoming free agents like Robyn Regehr, Rob Scuderi, Douglas Murray, Andrew Ference, Ryan O'Byrne, and Matt Smaby, and prospects like Dave Musil, Colten Teubert, and Alex Plante (sorry, Clouts), I'm not too concerned with finding "functional toughness" in the near future.

You're not wrong to think that way, in fact you have all right to, but you really under-sell Luongo's skill and accomplishments and overestimate the effect his contract will have on our cap. He's an all-star quality starter in the NHL who would give us a great opportunity to make the playoffs not only this coming year, but also for a good deal of years to come. He could also play an important mentorship role with up-and-comers like Tyler Bunz, Olivier Roy, and Samu Perhonen. He would also free us up the opportunity to trade a guy like Dubnyk to a team looking for a potential starter/1A goaltender. I feel he could bring in a healthy return to possibly fill another one of our roster wholes. Who knows? With a goalie of Luongo's caliber we may not even need to shore up our defense like we think we do! How nice would that be?

Yes his contract runs at 5.3mil for the next 8 years, and yes his performances in the playoffs of late haven't been all too awe inspiring, but it's not like the Canucks got to the Finals in spite of him. With no other contracts besides Hall and Eberle running past 2015 we have a good deal of wiggle room. If you're so concerned about his contract, why aren't you concerned about how we'd hold onto all of our young stars as it sits now? As much as I hate to say it, chances are we'll have to trade one of them away before they're all signed.

Another potential outcome of taking him on is that he plays for us for a few years, we make the playoffs and start attracting FA's for once and then he retires just in time for one of our prospects to take the wheel. Or perhaps we buy him out.

While I'm not necessarily in support of this deal, I do see the potential benefits from such a venture and like what I see. To me it comes down to what we'd give up. If what Mr. VANTEL posted earlier about the deal being Peckham and Khabby for Luongo and Tanev, then I would be a fool not to at least really consider it.
- MaximumBone

I am concerned about signing all the kids.... so i don't want the isue of lu on the team. I'd love to give duby a chance at least this year or whats left.
I have doubts the nucks would trade him to a rival anyway. Its just the contract that scares me. I'm sure most of the youngsters will get resigned, maybe a home town discount if we start to win in a couple years.

*Borderline functional toughness

With current free agents like Mark Eaton, Randy Jones, and Colin White, upcoming free agents like Robyn Regehr, Rob Scuderi, Douglas Murray, Andrew Ference, Ryan O'Byrne, and Matt Smaby, and prospects like Dave Musil, Colten Teubert, and Alex Plante (sorry, Clouts), I'm not too concerned with finding "functional toughness" in the near future.
- MaximumBone

Plante and Murray are the only legit tough players... Peckham can also hit clean, but i think he will have injury problems. hopefully moroz turns out as well. IMO he's another jf jacques though. Eaton Jones and Ference aren't functional toughness. Ya the stand up but they don't go looking for trouble. White and Regehr are past there prime.

I am concerned about signing all the kids.... so i don't want the isue of lu on the team. I'd love to give duby a chance at least this year or whats left.
I have doubts the nucks would trade him to a rival anyway. Its just the contract that scares me. I'm sure most of the youngsters will get resigned, maybe a home town discount if we start to win in a couple years.
- Killbot460

Believe me, I would too. The trade doesn't necessarily have to happen immediately. It could wait until the draft or the offseason (assuming the season is ever 'on'). Unfortunately, this lockout isn't giving us the appropriate opportunity to test Dubnyk as a starter.

However, I've recently been swayed in my resolve against trading for Lu for the reasons I listed earlier. Also, just imagine what a moment it would be if Luongo were to win a Cup on his boyhood-favourite team in a city where goalies are rarely scrutinized heavily. What a great moment that would be for the sport!

...

Sorry, just got a little carried away in a dream world. And before you ask, yes, Kate Upton WAS felating me in this dream.

Luongo for Hemsky+Dubnyk+Jones

I would actually do it.
- gretzky

Vancouver woukd not want a 5 million dollar injury prone guy that scored 10 goals last year . I know he is a decent playmaker but no thanks.

You're not wrong to think that way, in fact you have all right to, but you really under-sell Luongo's skill and accomplishments and overestimate the effect his contract will have on our cap. He's an all-star quality starter in the NHL who would give us a great opportunity to make the playoffs not only this coming year, but also for a good deal of years to come. He could also play an important mentorship role with up-and-comers like Tyler Bunz, Olivier Roy, and Samu Perhonen. He would also free us up the opportunity to trade a guy like Dubnyk to a team looking for a potential starter/1A goaltender. I feel he could bring in a healthy return to possibly fill another one of our roster wholes. Who knows? With a goalie of Luongo's caliber we may not even need to shore up our defense like we think we do! How nice would that be?

Yes his contract runs at 5.3mil for the next 8 years, and yes his performances in the playoffs of late haven't been all too awe inspiring, but it's not like the Canucks got to the Finals in spite of him. With no other contracts besides Hall and Eberle running past 2015 we have a good deal of wiggle room. If you're so concerned about his contract, why aren't you concerned about how we'd hold onto all of our young stars as it sits now? As much as I hate to say it, chances are we'll have to trade one of them away before they're all signed.

Another potential outcome of taking him on is that he plays for us for a few years, we make the playoffs and start attracting FA's for once and then he retires just in time for one of our prospects to take the wheel. Or perhaps we buy him out.

While I'm not necessarily in support of this deal, I do see the potential benefits from such a venture and like what I see. To me it comes down to what we'd give up. If what Mr. VANTEL posted earlier about the deal being Peckham and Khabby for Luongo and Tanev, then I would be a fool not to at least really consider it.
- MaximumBone

I don't know if would be that exact maybe a second also from Oilers seeing Tanev is a decent prospect . Remember I did say also, I don't think we will be dealing . If there were no other takers it could happen but very unlikely. Gillis would be in desperate mode for that .

Am I the only one who thinks the Oilers could compete for a playoff spot this year if the season starts? Its not impossible but maybe its because my hopes have been increasing heavily every year since they drafted Hall. Next season Im expecting somewhere between 6th and 11th in the west. I just dont see the Oilers being a bottom feeder by then at all

Dubnyk was the 14th (I think) best goaltender in the league last year, and he played behind one of the league's worst defense. He's pretty good. He's definitely not the problem.
- laughs2907

Brian Elliot was statistically one of the best goalies in the league last year and I wouldn't feel confident with him as my #1 either.

Goaltending is about long term consistency. Who knows whether Dubnyk can stay consistent over the years. I hope he can but I have my doubts.

Luongo is one of the very few "proven" goalies in the league available for a relatively low return. I wouldn't give up anything too significant for him, but at the cost of an injury prone 1st liner in Hemsky, 3rd liner Jones, and a ? goalie in Dubnyk it's worth the risk, IMO.