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markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Oct 31 @ 11:57 AM ET
but seattle isnt oil country!!
- Dozzer

The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Oct 31 @ 11:58 AM ET
Anaheim will have over 37M in cap space (if cap stays at 70M)...they will give them what ever they want, they can't afford to lose these 2 guys. I don't see them going anywhere.
- Symba007


Purely speculation on my part .....but, I just wonder if they might be a little pissed at the Ducks for not having received one of those lucrative long term deals under the new CBA.
Dozzer
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Oct 31 @ 11:58 AM ET

- markmark




castor oil used to be taken from a beavers groin FYI

thats about as balls deep canada as you can get
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Oct 31 @ 12:00 PM ET
Anaheim will have over 37M in cap space (if cap stays at 70M)...they will give them what ever they want, they can't afford to lose these 2 guys. I don't see them going anywhere.
- Symba007

The Islanders have around $36 million in cap space as well, they may decide to spend some money leading up to the new building.
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Oct 31 @ 12:00 PM ET
Anaheim will have over 37M in cap space (if cap stays at 70M)...they will give them what ever they want, they can't afford to lose these 2 guys. I don't see them going anywhere.
- Symba007

if they were going to lock them in long-term, you'd think they would have done so before the lock-out, along the lines of Parise/Suter.
Now, with the season toast, they become UFA's. They sign to the highest bidder.
My guess, their first choice won't be Anaheim.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Oct 31 @ 12:00 PM ET
Purely speculation on my part .....but, I just wonder if they might be a little pissed at the Ducks for not having received one of those lucrative long term deals under the new CBA.
- The Law

That'll really make them want to come to the guy who doesn't give out those deals
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
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Oct 31 @ 12:01 PM ET
Purely speculation on my part .....but, I just wonder if they might be a little pissed at the Ducks for not having received one of those lucrative long term deals under the new CBA.
- The Law


well the ducks lost 8.4million last year

ownership may have put a hold onto any long term deals until the new CBA is in place so that will be able to see if they can afford to retain them

Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Oct 31 @ 12:01 PM ET
The Islanders have around $36 million in cap space as well, they may decide to spend some money leading up to the new building.
- LeftCoaster

Islanders spend money? They're only at the Cap Floor because they have 9 mil invested in two guys who never play for them
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Oct 31 @ 12:02 PM ET
That'll really make them want to come to the guy who doesn't give out those deals
- AdamFrench


Not sure they'd have any interest in T.O. anyway ....but in the new CBA world maybe BB's rhetoric doesn't look so bad.
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Oct 31 @ 12:04 PM ET
well the ducks lost 8.4million last year

ownership may have put a hold onto any long term deals until the new CBA is in place so that will be able to see if they can afford to retain them

- Dozzer

the ducks aren't just losing money....they blow.
Dozzer
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Oct 31 @ 12:04 PM ET
Not sure they'd have any interest in T.O. anyway ....but in the new CBA world maybe BB's rhetoric doesn't look so bad.
- The Law


this is honestly why i questioned the carlyle signing

if it is burke's plan to go after one or both of those two why did he hire the coach that they quit playing for once?

doesnt add up.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Oct 31 @ 12:04 PM ET
if they were going to lock them in long-term, you'd think they would have done so before the lock-out, along the lines of Parise/Suter.
Now, with the season toast, they become UFA's. They sign to the highest bidder.
My guess, their first choice won't be Anaheim.

- Barx

Zajac will also be an interesting one.

NJ Devils are teetering on bankruptcy, Brodeur is getting very old, Parise has jumped ship.

I'd bet a dollar he goes elsewhere (UFA on July 1st, 2013).
Dozzer
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Oct 31 @ 12:04 PM ET
the ducks aren't just losing money....they blow.
- Barx


yes they are... in total 18 teams operated in the red last year according to forbes

http://www.forbes.com/nhl-valuations/list/
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Oct 31 @ 12:05 PM ET
Islanders spend money? They're only at the Cap Floor because they have 9 mil invested in two guys who never play for them
- AdamFrench

It's all in Wang's master plan!
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Oct 31 @ 12:05 PM ET
Zajac will also be an interesting one.

NJ are teetering on bankruptcy, Brodeur is getting very old, Parise has jumped ship.

I'd bet a dollar he goes elsewhere (UFA on July 1st, 2013).

- Atomic Wedgie

I'd take him.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Oct 31 @ 12:06 PM ET
this is honestly why i questioned the carlyle signing

if it is burke's plan to go after one or both of those two why did he hire the coach that they quit playing for once?

doesnt add up.

- Dozzer

I'm still pissed we didn't sack Wilson earlier and hire Hitchcock.

Another opportunity wasted.
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Oct 31 @ 12:06 PM ET
yes they are... in total 18 teams operated in the red last year according to forbes

http://www.forbes.com/nhl-valuations/list/

- Dozzer

I agreed with you....and added that on top of losing money, the team sucks donkey knob.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Oct 31 @ 12:07 PM ET
I agreed with you....and added that on top of losing money, the team sucks donkey knob.
- Barx

If Hiller gets over his Vertigo they'll be ok, like 7-12th in the West ok, but ok nonetheless.
Dozzer
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Oct 31 @ 12:07 PM ET
I agreed with you....and added that on top of losing money, the team sucks donkey knob.
- Barx


mis read you sorry

i missed the word "just"
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Oct 31 @ 12:07 PM ET
well the ducks lost 8.4million last year

ownership may have put a hold onto any long term deals until the new CBA is in place so that will be able to see if they can afford to retain them

- Dozzer


I think it's a good assumption that these two guys (turning 28 next year) were looking for the big 10+ year contracts that all their peers were getting. If the Ducks said no thanks then there "may" be some spillover.

Everybody knew - back in the summer - that these contracts would be limited so it was their only/last chance at getting one. Maybe, just maybe, that'll cause a little bad blood.

If that's the case ....which teams have the need, cap space, etc. ... to sign one or both next summer?
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Oct 31 @ 12:08 PM ET
I'm still pissed we didn't sack Wilson earlier and hire Hitchcock.

Another opportunity wasted.

- Atomic Wedgie

agree.
john davidson seems to know what he's doing as well...if the Leafs had any intention of not renewing Burke, they mighta missed a chance to replace him.
Dozzer
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
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Oct 31 @ 12:08 PM ET
I'm still pissed we didn't sack Wilson earlier and hire Hitchcock.

Another opportunity wasted.

- Atomic Wedgie


hitchcock doesnt play exciting hockey tho.. all trap



i dont know about you.. but i enjoyed watching the burns leafs more than i do this "exciting" stuff they play now
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Oct 31 @ 12:10 PM ET
If Hiller gets over his Vertigo they'll be ok, like 7-12th in the West ok, but ok nonetheless.
- AdamFrench

not even close without selanne, getzlaf and perry
Dozzer
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Oct 31 @ 12:14 PM ET
not even close without selanne, getzlaf and perry
- Barx


there is something that doesnt smell good in anaheim

just look at gardiner.. the ducks defense had more than enough space to accomodate him with a full time nhl role yet he went to toronto where the intention was to keep him in the AHL at first.

makes a person wonder why.
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Oct 31 @ 12:18 PM ET
there is something that doesnt smell good in anaheim

just look at gardiner.. the ducks defense had more than enough space to accomodate him with a full time nhl role yet he went to toronto where the intention was to keep him in the AHL at first.

makes a person wonder why.

- Dozzer


There's also Justin Schultz refusing to sign with them for reasons unknown.
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