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fudd1689
Boston Bruins
Location: Boston, MA
Joined: 09.27.2010

Oct 29 @ 9:00 AM ET
so they are for real playing in leagues that are sub par to the NHL? what are you going to say when they inevitably struggle in the NHL?
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Oct 29 @ 9:09 AM ET
so they are for real playing in leagues that are sub par to the NHL? what are you going to say when they inevitably struggle in the NHL?
- fudd1689

They were rushed
fudd1689
Boston Bruins
Location: Boston, MA
Joined: 09.27.2010

Oct 29 @ 9:14 AM ET
They were rushed
- Lahey


Its unfortunate they are in a situation where they need to be rushed. I look at how the Bruins were able to ease Seguin in to the NHL and now he has really turned into a stud. If Tambellini is smart he'll leave Schultz in the AHL for the whole season if the NHL comes back this year. Or at the very least play him as the 6th Dman and a handful of healthy scratches. Its not like hes in a good defensive system where he can learn from others.
Scruffton
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: London, ON
Joined: 07.02.2010

Oct 29 @ 9:22 AM ET
I would feel better about this list if Dallas, Florida, Nashville and Columbus weren't all train wrecks financially.
- Maxbone

And Pittsburgh was a train wreck financially too before Crosby.

And when Crosby head is finally a train wreck they'll probably go back to being a train wreck financially.
dawgzhouse
Location: Ottawa
Joined: 06.30.2006

Oct 29 @ 9:23 AM ET
Keep in mind that the Oil are not the only team and fans benefitting from the lockout.

Leaf fans are loving the lockout. It's almost November and the Leafs haven't been eliminated from the playoffs yet.
Scruffton
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: London, ON
Joined: 07.02.2010

Oct 29 @ 9:24 AM ET
The KHL is a lower league than the NHL but it's still a league with some decent talent. The main thing Yak and Schultz are showing right now is just that they aren't out of place playing in pro leagues with bigger tougher opponents.

I don't think Richard is trying to say "They're dominating the AHL and KHL therefore they will dominate the NHL." He's saying they've made a huge leap up from the competition they usually play against and they're still thriving.
Scruffton
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: London, ON
Joined: 07.02.2010

Oct 29 @ 9:26 AM ET
Keep in mind that the Oil are not the only team and fans benefitting from the lockout.

Leaf fans are loving the lockout. It's almost November and the Leafs haven't been eliminated from the playoffs yet.

- dawgzhouse

They usually don't get eliminated until about 55% through the season. First they make sure they win enough games to drop out of a good draft spot**


**unless someone else owns that first round pick. In which case they drop straight to a great draft spot
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Oct 29 @ 9:26 AM ET
Its unfortunate they are in a situation where they need to be rushed. I look at how the Bruins were able to ease Seguin in to the NHL and now he has really turned into a stud. If Tambellini is smart he'll leave Schultz in the AHL for the whole season if the NHL comes back this year. Or at the very least play him as the 6th Dman and a handful of healthy scratches. Its not like hes in a good defensive system where he can learn from others.
- fudd1689



Schultz isn't a raw rookie. He's NHL ready.

There's a reason 26 teams made offers to him and he's leading the AHL in scoring.

You don't hold a guy back if he's good enough.


Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Oct 29 @ 9:30 AM ET
Its unfortunate they are in a situation where they need to be rushed. I look at how the Bruins were able to ease Seguin in to the NHL and now he has really turned into a stud. If Tambellini is smart he'll leave Schultz in the AHL for the whole season if the NHL comes back this year. Or at the very least play him as the 6th Dman and a handful of healthy scratches. Its not like hes in a good defensive system where he can learn from others.
- fudd1689

The problem with Schultz is that he made it clear he doesn't want to be in the AHL, hence why he signed with the Oil. Considering how well he's done there I wouldn't want him to sour if the NHL season was back and he ended up staying in the AHL.

I disagree about learning. Smid is becoming an elite shutdown player, N.Schultz is a steady defender who plays a very solid defensive game based around positioning. Then you have Petry and Whitney who can help with the offensive side of things, both of which came from College Hockey background that play similar styles.
eekloond
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 08.02.2007

Oct 29 @ 9:37 AM ET
I see no indications of the greenback making any sort of a comeback anytime soon. I think since our dollar suffered for so long people think it's inevitable that it eventually will crash back. As long as fiscal management stays smart and no rash financial decisions are made, our dollar can remain strong for a long time.
- sanfordnson


Here's hoping our loonie stays strong, but I recall the Alberta PC's saying the price of oil wouldn't go below $100 either. In fact I believe their entire budget is predicated on oil prices at or above $100 per barrel.
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Oct 29 @ 9:40 AM ET
You mean they're not halograms?

Still recycling old crappy blogs eh?

- Fakepartofme


Dude... Your a (frank)ing Douchebag.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Oct 29 @ 9:41 AM ET
hope the organization gets its poop together and stays in Edmonton...
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Oct 29 @ 9:42 AM ET
What's up laughs and lahey... You (frank)ing uncle (frank)ers.
RichardHertz
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 10.25.2012

Oct 29 @ 9:50 AM ET
I see no indications of the greenback making any sort of a comeback anytime soon. I think since our dollar suffered for so long people think it's inevitable that it eventually will crash back. As long as fiscal management stays smart and no rash financial decisions are made, our dollar can remain strong for a long time.
- sanfordnson


That's only true if Obama gets re-elected. The good ole boy running against him will start a war in order to boost their economy.
newmy
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.15.2012

Oct 29 @ 9:52 AM ET
The problem that many people have is why should Katz get all revenues from a new building when he isn't even putting up half his money to build it??

Cloutier, you make it sound like owning the building is a big deal for the city, Katz could care less about owning the building, hell he's getting all the revenue it creates, are you telling me that's a good deal for the city??

Hey, how about you buy a condo complex & i'll reap all the revenues from it, condo fees, rent etc,etc - it's the same damn thing.

Don't be blinded by Katz and his motives, he didn't become a billionaire without screwing people before. Yes i agree a new arena is needed but getting screwed over a barrel is not the way to get it.

If Katz wants full revenues then he needs to start stepping up to the plate because he hasn't yet, he's already backed out of a deal & anyone who says the deal wasn't complete is a fool.

How is god's name did the city not make Katz throw 100m up front instead of the payments over 35yrs is one thing but to take all revenues from a building he doesn't own is beyond me and plenty of other people around Edmonton.
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Oct 29 @ 9:52 AM ET
That's only true if Obama gets re-elected. The good ole boy running against him will start a war in order to boost their economy.
- RichardHertz


That would be rediclous... Again.
rathagor
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.27.2006

Oct 29 @ 10:07 AM ET
At this point I really don't care who builds the arena, as long as it doesn't involve Northlands in any way. Those clowns couldn't run a successful lemonade stand.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Oct 29 @ 10:14 AM ET
Here's hoping our loonie stays strong, but I recall the Alberta PC's saying the price of oil wouldn't go below $100 either. In fact I believe their entire budget is predicated on oil prices at or above $100 per barrel.
- eekloond

If Mitt Romney wins you may see a rise in the USD, although it may only be temp, as investors may have renewed confidence in the American dollar.
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Oct 29 @ 10:14 AM ET
At this point I really don't care who builds the arena, as long as it doesn't involve Northlands in any way. Those clowns couldn't run a successful lemonade stand.
- rathagor


Ill cheers to that.
eekloond
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 08.02.2007

Oct 29 @ 11:00 AM ET
At this point I really don't care who builds the arena, as long as it doesn't involve Northlands in any way. Those clowns couldn't run a successful lemonade stand.
- rathagor



THIS...!!!

blahman20
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Lindsay, ON
Joined: 03.02.2007

Oct 29 @ 11:23 AM ET
Shultz will looks killer in a Seattle Raindrops uniform next year.
Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Oct 29 @ 11:33 AM ET
Tarasenko has as many goals in fewer games, 3 times as many assists, a better +/-, and all from less TOI. Yakupov definitely looks good, but as far as being "Rookie of the Year material"... He's not quite keeping up with the people he'll be competing with for that award over there, so it's rather presumptuous to think he will over here.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Oct 29 @ 11:58 AM ET
The KHL is a lower league than the NHL but it's still a league with some decent talent. The main thing Yak and Schultz are showing right now is just that they aren't out of place playing in pro leagues with bigger tougher opponents.

I don't think Richard is trying to say "They're dominating the AHL and KHL therefore they will dominate the NHL." He's saying they've made a huge leap up from the competition they usually play against and they're still thriving.

- Scruffton

Wow a Leafs fan that can follow what's actually being said and not make all kinds of crazy insinuations. I didn't know that you existed. Your entire fanbase could learn from you.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Oct 29 @ 12:20 PM ET
Tarasenko has as many goals in fewer games, 3 times as many assists, a better +/-, and all from less TOI. Yakupov definitely looks good, but as far as being "Rookie of the Year material"... He's not quite keeping up with the people he'll be competing with for that award over there, so it's rather presumptuous to think he will over here.
- Antilles


They've played the same amount of games. And you do know tarasenko is 2 years older than yakupov right? I'd say he's keeping up admirably. Also yakupov has 2 years of North American hockey under his belt compared 0 for tarasenko. Tarasenko is an awesome talent but your argument is pretty weak for taking yak out of the rookie of the year race
oilcats
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 07.06.2008

Oct 29 @ 12:53 PM ET
The problem that many people have is why should Katz get all revenues from a new building when he isn't even putting up half his money to build it??

Cloutier, you make it sound like owning the building is a big deal for the city, Katz could care less about owning the building, hell he's getting all the revenue it creates, are you telling me that's a good deal for the city??

Hey, how about you buy a condo complex & i'll reap all the revenues from it, condo fees, rent etc,etc - it's the same damn thing.

Don't be blinded by Katz and his motives, he didn't become a billionaire without screwing people before. Yes i agree a new arena is needed but getting screwed over a barrel is not the way to get it.

If Katz wants full revenues then he needs to start stepping up to the plate because he hasn't yet, he's already backed out of a deal & anyone who says the deal wasn't complete is a fool.

How is god's name did the city not make Katz throw 100m up front instead of the payments over 35yrs is one thing but to take all revenues from a building he doesn't own is beyond me and plenty of other people around Edmonton.

- newmy


Why does Northlands receive City, Provincial and Federal money for their projects and they keep all the profits?

Tell me what the difference is between Katz getting support or Northlands getting support.
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