I’m not convinced anything will survive there. They’ve had quite a few places fail there, and part of that is just that there is too much established competition in the neighbourhood. I haven’t been in there since it changed hands, but the way it was run by the prior owners, there is no way they’ll ever get the business back.

They also don’t seem very good at marketing to their target audience. McSorley’s and Originals both get huge family crowds, and in Leaside, that’s a huge part of your target market. They really don’t have anything for mom’s and dad’s coming in with their kids for some wings.

Honestly, it wouldn’t take much for me to start going to a place like that, if it was decent. There I’m not a fan of McSorley’s food. The burgers are pretty good, but otherwise, meh. Everyone likes those wings. I don’t. Originals is decent food, but I find it ridiculously expensive. I went in there with some friends, and we figured it out, and went to Vero’s for breakfast about a week later…. Same price. Where would you rather eat? Duff’s is good though.

- prock

I'm pissed Highway 61 went under. Atmosphere wasn't great, but the food was.

I hate the McSorley's wings. I like everything else, though.

Where was the Boar and Firken?

- prock

It was just south of the TD Bank - they tore it down a few years ago to make way for the parking lot (cue the Joni Mitchell...). It was small, quiet, and never too crowded.

For breakfast or a decent pub meal, I don’t mind the Longest Yard over on Mt. Pleasant. At maybe Manor?

- prock

Good food.

There's also a new diner on Mt. Pleasant - can't remember the name, but it's a woman's name. East side, just below the Longest Yard. Good stuff. Give it a try.

Oh, oh OHHHHH. The Amsterdam Brewery moves in on Laird on November 1 by the way. I’ve heard they have a brew pub opening in the area somewhere too. That brewery is open to the public almost 24/7. They open on holidays, open till 11. It's awesome.
- prock

Boo yeah!

Yeah, Amsterdam is going in a block east of Laird. And the brew pub is in that new development on Laird with the Luongos - forget about parking there.

It's a good time to be thirsty in our neighbourhood...

What about giving Suckskatchewan a team? They would have to name them the Riders for it to even have a chance to work, and sure they would probably still lose some money out there. But they would still do a lot better than PHX, CBJ, Florida and Carolina.
- ruttager17

St. John's, NL would probably do better than most of those cities

I'm pissed Highway 61 went under. Atmosphere wasn't great, but the food was.

I hate the McSorley's wings. I like everything else, though.

It was just south of the TD Bank - they tore it down a few years ago to make way for the parking lot (cue the Joni Mitchell...). It was small, quiet, and never too crowded.

- Atomic Wedgie

I wasn’t overly impressed with Highway 61, actually. I only ate there once. Had a pulled pork sandwich. It was good and all, but small, served on a little ciabata, no sides, and something like 12 bucks.

Good food.

- Atomic Wedgie

Yup. And friendly staff. I went in there one night for a bite, and ended up getting hammered, and had them turn on the NHL draft (2 or 3 years ago). Some young staff. There is one really tall, early 20s’ish, she’s awesome. Gives me a chubby. I used to go in there with my girlfriend, and hope she wouldn’t catch me staring.

There's also a new diner on Mt. Pleasant - can't remember the name, but it's a woman's name. East side, just below the Longest Yard. Good stuff. Give it a try.

- Atomic Wedgie

Doesn’t ring a bell. There is one a block or two north, that’s a known cougar bar, isnt’ there? Can’t remember the name either. It’s supposedly not bad though.

Boo yeah!

Yeah, Amsterdam is going in a block east of Laird. And the brew pub is in that new development on Laird with the Luongos - forget about parking there.

It's a good time to be thirsty in our neighbourhood...
- Atomic Wedgie

As I understand it, the Amsterdam is going in BEHIND the Longo Brothers (i.e. literally behind it, you enter just off Laird), with the brew pub beside.

Also, LCBO is approved and going in where the old Brennan’s GM was. That's old news though.

St. John's, NL would probably do better than most of those cities
- laughs2907

I am not against a team in NL. PHX to Vagina and FLD to St. John's. And folks, that's an E5

I am not against a team in NL. PHX to Vagina and FLD to St. John's. And folks, that's an E5
- ruttager17

I want to name them the St. John's Cod (frank)ers.

I want to name them the St. John's Cod (frank)ers.
- laughs2907

Love it. Has a nice ring. It's an actual thing people do in St. John's so it represents the people. Well thought out sir.

Love it. Has a nice ring. It's an actual thing people do in St. John's so it represents the people. Well thought out sir.
- ruttager17

I thought the name up as I was...

Nevermind.

Over the last number of years, the Coyotes have been losing money somewhere in the $40mil - $50mil per season range. The City of Glendale and the NHL itself have stepped in to save the team numerous times from financial disaster.

Definition of Stupidity: Doing the same thing over and over, but expecting a different result.

- we_are_all_canucks

Just putting it out there, I'm pretty sure that's the definition of Insanity not Stupidity.

I'm confused is Richard Cloutier an insider?

Do we really want a rat like Oilwhores being a referee in our threads? please go to this link and discuss.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...hp?thread_id=101622&dbm=1

Do we really want a rat like Oilwhores being a referee in our threads? please go to this link and discuss.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...hp?thread_id=101622&dbm=1
- GrammerNasi

I hope your name is a joke...

I hope your name is a joke...
- laughs2907

not as big of a joke as Oilhorse, he is out to get you next. He's already got half of your fleshlight company banned from HB.

How much is the relocation fee anyway?
- laughs2907

I just looked up what it was to move the Thrashers to Winnipeg. True North paid a total of $170 million out of which $60 million went to the league for the relocation fee.

not as big of a joke as Oilhorse, he is out to get you next. He's already got half of your fleshlight company banned from HB.
- GrammerNasi

You just went from being a Canucks fan to an Oilers fan

You just went from being a Canucks fan to an Oilers fan
- laughs2907

I'm fickle

Well, Schultz is at it again! Add +2 to the assist column.

Well, Schultz is at it again! Add +2 to the assist column.
- MaximumBone

He's a (frank)ing maniac.

Paajarvi with a goal and an assist so far also... He's starting to come around.

Well, Schultz is at it again! Add +2 to the assist column.
- MaximumBone

Schultz is money

I'm fickle
- GrammerNasi

and none to bright....

Oh poop...I think I got you banned for being a tool on an Oiler blog...Is this it? This is your revenge? Sad really.

Too much drama.... We need hockey back

Richard Cloutier: NHL Lockout Could Kill Coyotes Franchise



Ya well that useless poor excuse of a team that no one gives a poop about is the reason why there wont be hockey this year..


The owners want the players to pay the bill for hockey in the desert...


Go Yotes Go..Drag the league down with ya sorry ass...

and none to bright....

Oh poop...I think I got you banned for being a tool on an Oiler blog...Is this it? This is your revenge? Sad really.
- OilHorse

Way to turn in a valuable member of the Oilers HB community, you are a real POS

and none to bright....

Oh poop...I think I got you banned for being a tool on an Oiler blog...Is this it? This is your revenge? Sad really.
- OilHorse

Reveen says hi, he would say it himself but you got him banned

Reveen says hi, he would say it himself but you got him banned
- GrammerNasi

Ya...ok, funny how he and I have already talked via PM...so more of your lies proven wrong silly troll...