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tuna99
Joined: 05.25.2009

Oct 25 @ 11:56 AM ET
Fehr is the Republican because he believes in a free enterprise system with unlimited caps on growth.

Bettman is the socialist because he thinks there should be caps on your salary, restricted measures on your contract rights and who does not respect contract law.
HuileHab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I eat richards for breakfast! - stormey
Joined: 03.01.2010

Oct 25 @ 11:58 AM ET
Fehr is the Republican because he believes in a free enterprise system with unlimited caps on growth.

Bettman is the socialist because he thinks there should be caps on your salary, restricted measures on your contract rights and who does not respect contract law.

- tuna99

explain this one?
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Oct 25 @ 11:58 AM ET
He was a reformist before....
- Symba007

Yeah, actually I was in the Reform Party, when it was active.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Oct 25 @ 11:59 AM ET
Yeah, actually I was in the Reform Party, when it was active.
- PrinceLH

We can tell
tuna99
Joined: 05.25.2009

Oct 25 @ 11:59 AM ET
explain this one?
- HuileHab


I just did, think about it for a few minutes and it may sink in
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 25 @ 11:59 AM ET
Our best and brightest doctors, left for the U.S. decades ago, because it was up to them how they practiced medicine. They didn't want to go through the bureacracy that was present in the Canadian healthcare system. Now they're going to get it in spades, with Obamacare. Do you think that you'll be able to hold these people in the U.S., or be able to attract more, by making it more expensive to operate? Your healthcare system is going to suffer greatly under this.

On forcing employers to pay for this, good luck....they'll either cut back on employees, or move out of the country. That's great for job creation.

- PrinceLH


You are right, with teh cost of school a lot of people now are avoiding going to med school. Its just not worth it anymore. My wife is a chiropractor and if she knew this she would have done something else. Its killing a lot of small DC's and MD's. The awesome thing about Obama care is that they threw together a bill of about 2000 pages, gave them a weekend to read it and vote, democratic controled house and senate voted it for the US population, yet nobody that actually voted it is affected by it. They have their own healthcare that is completely seperate from anything the population has. So thanks!
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Oct 25 @ 12:00 PM ET
Fehr is the Republican because he believes in a free enterprise system with unlimited caps on growth.

Bettman is the socialist because he thinks there should be caps on your salary, restricted measures on your contract rights and who does not respect contract law.

- tuna99

That's some really solid analysis, Tuna.

Fehr - head of a union calling for redistribution of wealth from the "have" teams to the "have not" teams is the Republican.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 25 @ 12:00 PM ET
Fehr is the Republican because he believes in a free enterprise system with unlimited caps on growth.

Bettman is the socialist because he thinks there should be caps on your salary, restricted measures on your contract rights and who does not respect contract law.

- tuna99



The Collective Bargaining Agreement, under which the previous contracts were signed, has expired. Gary Bettman, and more appropriately the owners, aren't disrespecting anything. Paying the contracts in full might be the right thing to do, and that's a completely different argument, but they are not violating any law.

These contracts were signed with both sides knowing that there would most likely be a rollback. If you don't believe that, you're delusional.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Oct 25 @ 12:02 PM ET
The Collective Bargaining Agreement, under which the previous contracts were signed, has expired. Gary Bettman, and more appropriately the owners, aren't disrespecting anything. Paying the contracts in full might be the right thing to do, and that's a completely different argument, but they are not violating any law.

These contracts were signed with both sides knowing that there would most likely be a rollback. If you don't believe that, you're delusional.

- buffalofan19

I think that Brittney Spears is sending me psychic sex messages through the television when she judges singers on X Factor, and even I know that the players saw the rollback coming.
MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Oct 25 @ 12:02 PM ET
I'd personally like Obama to stay off my side. He's a liar, a con artist and the worst President in the history of the US.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Oct 25 @ 12:03 PM ET
The Collective Bargaining Agreement, under which the previous contracts were signed, has expired. Gary Bettman, and more appropriately the owners, aren't disrespecting anything. Paying the contracts in full might be the right thing to do, and that's a completely different argument, but they are not violating any law.

These contracts were signed with both sides knowing that there would most likely be a rollback. If you don't believe that, you're delusional.

- buffalofan19

Everyone knew there would be a rollback.....even more this past summer. The union is lying when it says it didn't, they are not that stupid.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Oct 25 @ 12:03 PM ET
I'd personally like Obama to stay off my side. He's a liar, a con artist and the worst President in the history of the US.
- MnGump

Bring back Bush
HuileHab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I eat richards for breakfast! - stormey
Joined: 03.01.2010

Oct 25 @ 12:04 PM ET
I just did, think about it for a few minutes and it may sink in
- tuna99


Typical response from someone who has no clue.
HuileHab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I eat richards for breakfast! - stormey
Joined: 03.01.2010

Oct 25 @ 12:05 PM ET
I'd personally like Obama to stay off my side. He's a liar, a con artist and the worst President in the history of the US.
- MnGump

Anyone see Trumps Hostage video asking for Obamas academic certificates for 5 million dollars.

robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Oct 25 @ 12:06 PM ET
The truth of the matter, is that we only have 1/10th the population and have a much bigger landmass to protect. Our climate is harsher and we have three oceans surrounding us and one superpower on the other side. We have natural resources and we need American know how, to take advantage of it. We can provide for your energy needs, but idiots like Obama, want to end fossil fuels, with their utopian view of how the world should be. Obama wasted a half a trillion dollars on green initatives that didn't work. While at the same time, kept out the XL pipeline and scaled back drilling permits, on public land in the U.S. With the Middle East ready to explode, where will the U.S. get their energy? It's right next door, but you'd rather get it from the middle east. At least we won't kill you, with the money that you send us.
- PrinceLH



Please stop posting.


tuna99
Joined: 05.25.2009

Oct 25 @ 12:06 PM ET
That's some really solid analysis, Tuna.

Fehr - head of a union calling for redistribution of wealth from the "have" teams to the "have not" teams is the Republican.

- Atomic Wedgie


I don't want to have to lecture you on the US governmental system but they do have redistribution of federal tax there - and the main beneficiaries are the Republican Southern States (who get there money from California, NY, NJ, Minny - you know the Democratic States) - Republicans love wealth redistribution when it benefits them - like it does to Fehr in this case
Mr_Clean
Location: PLAYOFFS?, MB
Joined: 08.09.2010

Oct 25 @ 12:14 PM ET
Canada is using their assets to build their economy. If you look at the provinces that are having difficulty, you'll see that they're run by left of centre governments. Where they have sound conservative provincial governments, they have a booming economy. It's the Obama administration who's printing money night and day, with nothing to back it up. Every month, they print 100 Billion dollars and inject it into the economy, with very little results. All that it's done is devalue your currency and will eventually wipe out people's retirement savings, because of inflation. The cost of socialism my friend, the cost of socialism!

On the military slam, you better get your facts straight. Under the conservative government, we've actually started to rebuild our armed forces. I live near Canada's largest Air Base, in Trenton, Ontario, and they are continuing to expand and modernize their fleet of aircrafts and the infrastructure around it. Under the Chretien regime, we became antiquated as a military power. He bought used equipment from other countries and slashed military spending. Our foreign policy was benien and other countries laughed at us. No more. If Harper has done one thing, he's given our country back it's self confidence.

- PrinceLH


Who would we beat in a nuclear war? Just curious.

And I think no matter what we did, any of the Russians, Chinese, or Americans would be able to squash us without support from another one of those major powers.

And don't tell me France, Britain, Germany, or some developing country is going to invade us... That's laughable.

I have no idea why we feel the need to expand our military at this point in time.
hnic
Location: Canada, BC
Joined: 08.25.2006

Oct 25 @ 12:14 PM ET
Obama is nothing but a socialist stooge. You'd be better off getting Romney to arbitrate the lockout. At least he's run a business. This community organizer clown, is a useful idiot for the left in America. The sooner you flush this idiot out to sea, the better. He learned how to do public speaking from the WWE. I think he had Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson as his mentor.


- PrinceLH


if being a successful business owner meant potentially being a good president, then colonel sanders would have been the next FDR.



sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 25 @ 12:15 PM ET
Anyone see Trumps Hostage video asking for Obamas academic certificates for 5 million dollars.


- HuileHab


LOL yeah there's a lot of theories about Obams college apps and letters out there. Although a lot of charities could use $5mil.....Just saying Obama
Mr_Clean
Location: PLAYOFFS?, MB
Joined: 08.09.2010

Oct 25 @ 12:15 PM ET
Bring back Bush
- Symba007


Huzzah!
MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Oct 25 @ 12:16 PM ET
I love America. I really do. I lived there for a year. I travel there every year.

So I'm not saying this to take stupid pot shots at your country.

But seriously, your electoral system is so incredibly backward, it really shouldn't even be considered a democracy. No other developed country in the world (or even developing ones) would ever attempt such an effed up system.

The voter registration system is so inherently stupid it defies description. How can you register as a Democrat or a Republican? And how can the incumbent party control the voting process?

But it's a system that forever guarantees that neither the Republicans nor the Democrats ever finishes lower than second, so it's here to stay.

Scrap the entire setup. Establish an independent body to administer elections.

Start with the tax returns to establish a proper voters' list (and drop the stupid argument about not wanting government to be tracking you - it's paranoid nonsense). Establish clear rules for adding your name - which yes, would include showing proper i.d. If minorities and the poor have problems obtaining government i.d., fix that problem. Don't devalue your electoral system.

But of course, this will never, ever happen.

- Atomic Wedgie

Why should the gov need to track you? The gov doesn't need to know every intimate detail about it's citizens That is not how a free society works. Personal privacy is a monumental necessity in a free society.

"Any society that gives up liberty for security deserves neither and will lose both." - Benjamin Franklin

"A learned Blockhead is a greater Blockhead than an ignorant one". - Benjamin Franklin
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 25 @ 12:22 PM ET
if being a successful business owner meant potentially being a good president, then colonel sanders would have been the next FDR.
- hnic


This is true. A president's only true power is teh power to persuade. He needs to be a leader to bring people together to come up with the best solution to a problem. They need to surround themselves with top advisors that are specialists in their background. Some say this was Bush's biggest strenghth. He had a top cabinet, and he has a great personality that influenced people. He never made any enemies in the house or senate. Nanci Pelosi and him were always friendly, eventhough they disagreed. However, I believe this is Obama's biggest failure. He made a lot of promises but he failed to sell them. He has failed to lead. Its well documented that a lot of reps and sens do not like him. His background was a community leader, and a senator that voted "present" for over 60% of his votes on decisions. Not yes or no, just present. Good Job! You cant say that Romney has any less experience than Obama had going into office. I really believe Obama is in over his head.
hnic
Location: Canada, BC
Joined: 08.25.2006

Oct 25 @ 12:24 PM ET
This is true. A president's only true power is teh power to persuade. He needs to be a leader to bring people together to come up with the best solution to a problem. They need to surround themselves with top advisors that are specialists in their background. Some say this was Bush's biggest strenghth. He had a top cabinet, and he has a great personality that influenced people. He never made any enemies in the house or senate. Nanci Pelosi and him were always friendly, eventhough they disagreed. However, I believe this is Obama's biggest failure. He made a lot of promises but he failed to sell them. He has failed to lead. Its well documented that a lot of reps and sens do not like him. His background was a community leader, and a senator that voted "present" for over 60% of his votes on decisions. Not yes or no, just present. Good Job! You cant say that Romney has any less experience than Obama had going into office. I really believe Obama is in over his head.
- sammy87


doesn't help when mitch mcconnell says his ultimate goal is to make obama a one-term president
hooligoon
Location: BBB Bring Burke Back
Joined: 06.19.2012

Oct 25 @ 12:29 PM ET
Romney is a wolf in wolf's clothing.
Obama is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

The US needs a 3rd choice.

- Charliebox


Mrs Clinton? She's a cat in a some kind of British clothing
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Oct 25 @ 12:31 PM ET
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