oooilersss
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Location: North of the Flamers..., AB Joined: 07.30.2009
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clouts,,,what if edmonton moves to say quebec city? they don't want to move to a place where they may not make money but THEY WILL make money in quebec. - habsrock71
So the NHL fights tooth and nail to keep the coyotes a team losing money in phoenix, but they will just up and move a profitable franchise to Quebec city?
Sorry but that won't happen. When Quebec does get a team it will be through expansion. |
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Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: North of the Flamers..., AB Joined: 07.30.2009
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2. Edmonton could build the rink itself entirely, and lease the rink to the Oilers, regardless who owns the team. This is perhaps the most straight-forward option. It's also the least predictable. I mean, come on, I've worked with governments before, and the current rink deal has already been tied up for five years in debate. If this was left up to the city entirely, when would Edmonton get a new rink? 2025? An NHL team might still be here by then, or they might be gone. By doing this publicly, you're putting the entire situation at the mercy of the economy for the next 10 years, which may or may not have the ability to float the team at Rexall until then.
If the city builds the rink itself they will still need a tenant. Which will still give Katz the upper hand. |
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laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Wuhan, China Joined: 07.18.2006
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So the NHL fights tooth and nail to keep the coyotes a team losing money in phoenix, but they will just up and move a profitable franchise to Quebec city?
Sorry but that won't happen. When Quebec does get a team it will be through expansion. - oooilersss
If the NHL is dumb enough to add more teams, I hope the entire league folds. |
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Lahey
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB Joined: 03.07.2011
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If the city builds the rink itself they will still need a tenant. Which will still give Katz the upper hand. - oooilersss
Nah, part of the reason Pho still has a team is because the city put a lot of money towards keeping the team there. Sounds like Bettman isn't willing to turn away from cities that do that. Hence how a new city owned arena = oilers not leaving. |
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Lahey
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB Joined: 03.07.2011
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If the NHL is dumb enough to add more teams, I hope the entire league folds. - laughs2907
You watch in 8 years they'll get up and move 5-6 teams to Europe. Start a new division, then 3-4 years later they'll try plug franchises back in those cities. |
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oooilersss
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: North of the Flamers..., AB Joined: 07.30.2009
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If the NHL is dumb enough to add more teams, I hope the entire league folds. - laughs2907
Oh trust me they are dumb enough. Expansion teams pay a one time fee, this is called a cash grab for current owners. |
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Lahey
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB Joined: 03.07.2011
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Oh trust me they are dumb enough. Expansion teams pay a one time fee, this is called a cash grab for current owners. - oooilersss
Then complain in 5-10 years that they are sick of supporting the weaker teams |
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laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Wuhan, China Joined: 07.18.2006
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You watch in 8 years they'll get up and move 5-6 teams to Europe. Start a new division, then 3-4 years later they'll try plug franchises back in those cities. - Lahey
Doubt it |
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oooilersss
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: North of the Flamers..., AB Joined: 07.30.2009
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Nah, part of the reason Pho still has a team is because the city put a lot of money towards keeping the team there. Sounds like Bettman isn't willing to turn away from cities that do that. Hence how a new city owned arena = oilers not leaving. - Lahey
I agree with that, the problem I have is that Katz wants non-game day revenue as well and a yearly subsidy for maintenance of the facility.
This is reason enough that the costs should be somewhat shared by Katz and the City. |
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Lahey
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB Joined: 03.07.2011
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I agree with that, the problem I have is that Katz wants non-game day revenue as well and a yearly subsidy for maintenance of the facility.
This is reason enough that the costs should be somewhat shared by Katz and the City. - oooilersss
Well the non-game day revenue shouldn't be a shock as a lot of teams get it, plus Katz is paying whatever cost there are to run the building.
The subsidy though is a bit odd. I don't know what happened in New York with the whole Casino funding, so I don't know what to say on it. |
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laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Wuhan, China Joined: 07.18.2006
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I agree with that, the problem I have is that Katz wants non-game day revenue as well and a yearly subsidy for maintenance of the facility.
This is reason enough that the costs should be somewhat shared by Katz and the City. - oooilersss
If Katz wants revenue on everything for 11 months of the year, naming rights valued at $3 million a year, $20 million in advertising over the next 20 years, casino rights, and $6 million a year to help with operating costs, he should be paying for around 90% of the arena costs himself. |
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ruttager17
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Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB Joined: 10.21.2011
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If Katz wants revenue on everything for 11 months of the year, naming rights valued at $3 million a year, $20 million in advertising over the next 20 years, casino rights, and $6 million a year to help with operating costs, he should be paying for around 90% of the arena costs himself. - laughs2907
This
I get Katz wanting to make money, if he didn't he wouldn't be where he is today, but to take all those revenues and then ask the city for more money to operate the arena is just ignorant. Go (frank) yourself katz |
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Lahey
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB Joined: 03.07.2011
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(frank)ing rink - robin_steele264
Just throw some water on the henday and they can play on an 70k rink. |
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Jack-artist
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: "Yakapoo is khl bound. After t, AB Joined: 01.27.2010
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Yeah....because their all essentially Russian. - mochoson
Pre-1991 they were. Well, Soviets. |
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Lahey
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB Joined: 03.07.2011
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Pre-1991 they were. Well, Soviets. - Jack-artist
They still are, only outsiders call them Russians |
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