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bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Oct 19 @ 5:03 PM ET
I cant help but think if this trade happens Kadri would be coming our way. Leafs organization seems to be fed up with him.
- vancity787


Maybe management is just setting up leaf nation for the trade. If Kadri's value is diminished in the eyes of the faithful then Burke's off the hook. Their criticism of Kadri seemed weird. Maybe it's all part of the plan.
bardownsouth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.30.2010

Oct 19 @ 5:11 PM ET
Reimer and Scrivens are more overpriced backups.
- Scooby_Doo


Reimer= $1.8 million per season for 2 more years
Scrivens= $0.6 million per season for 2 more years
Total: $2.4 million over 2 years

Luongo= $5.3 million per season for 10 more years

Great to see how you failed elementary school math bud, take a lap
stoned
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: A van down by the river
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 19 @ 5:13 PM ET
Are you drunk?

Toronto doesn't want Robchoko ,at least most fans don't.Lupul? as someone already said, they could get more value than an overpriced aging choker, though I do admire your effort at creating a market for Luongo
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Oct 19 @ 5:17 PM ET
Maybe management is just setting up leaf nation for the trade. If Kadri's value is diminished in the eyes of the faithful then Burke's off the hook. Their criticism of Kadri seemed weird. Maybe it's all part of the plan.
- bloatedmosquito


Kadri would be Hodgson 2.0 for you guys: not necessarily in practice, but in perception. And there's no way he's cracking your top 2 lines and that's the only place he's ever going to excel (if at all).
shill-17
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Richmond Hill, ON
Joined: 11.09.2011

Oct 19 @ 5:18 PM ET
the trade would not be lu for komi, connolly or lombardi. the trade would be for something along the lines of lu for bozak + kadri (or other younger player with still potention) + picks + cap dump and that is where those three guys come in
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Oct 19 @ 5:21 PM ET
Great is relative....his numbers in Nashville are based on the fact that he was a 20 year old rookie. They dont represent the whole picture. He held his own and was not a reliability. Unfortunately, he got stuck on a Toronto team that basically stunk in all aspects of the game....
- chompsey

Freudian slip?

The fact that Toronto stunk in all aspects of the game should have given the guy an opportunity to earn more ice time. Yes, Komi and Schenn were given more icetime than they deserved (or more starts, really, as both got very limited ice time) but Franson couldn't seize the opportunity.

He's scary in his own end.
stoned
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: A van down by the river
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 19 @ 5:21 PM ET
Oh and Lupul!?
I will felate my dog if the Canucks get Lupul in the Luongo deal (given no other significant players are coming with Lu)

- 1979AD


So now you need an excuse?
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Oct 19 @ 5:21 PM ET
the trade would not be lu for komi, connolly or lombardi. the trade would be for something along the lines of lu for bozak + kadri (or other younger player with still potention) + picks + cap dump and that is where those three guys come in
- shill-17


I'd be happy with that, Bozak would help fill a hole in our lineup and Kadri for all his faults would benefit in our system (if he's really wanting to reach his potential) and stockpiling mid-to-low picks would help us possibly make another bigger deal down the line or else stock up on prospects.
IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

Oct 19 @ 5:23 PM ET
I cant help but think if this trade happens Kadri would be coming our way. Leafs organization seems to be fed up with him.
- vancity787


I could see him being a toss in type of player, but I really doubt Gillis builds a trade around a player who is known to have poor work ethic and a bit of an attitude.

Kadri will get you Lu's stick and blocker, but the pot needs to be a whole lot sweeter to get the rest of him.

stoned
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: A van down by the river
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 19 @ 5:25 PM ET
I could see him being a toss in type of player, but I really doubt Gillis builds a trade around a player who is known to have poor work ethic and a bit of an attitude.

Kadri will get you Lu's stick and blocker, but the pot needs to be a whole lot sweeter to get the rest of him.

- IanEsplen


You can have Luca Cereda + Komi
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Oct 19 @ 5:25 PM ET
Freudian slip?

The fact that Toronto stunk in all aspects of the game should have given the guy an opportunity to earn more ice time. Yes, Komi and Schenn were given more icetime than they deserved (or more starts, really, as both got very limited ice time) but Franson couldn't seize the opportunity.

He's scary in his own end.

- Atomic Wedgie


This, and a healthy dose of hate from every coach who's ever had a mic in front of him. Jury's not out on Carlyle, but Kadri's gotta be doing something to right piss off the coaches he's worked with.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Oct 19 @ 5:27 PM ET
I don't want him . Classless puke and my opinion wouldn't change if he was here. I'm personally embarrassed and disgusted that he's Canadian
- I-own_da-Northwest



I-Aryan-da-Northwest
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Oct 19 @ 5:30 PM ET
I could see him being a toss in type of player, but I really doubt Gillis builds a trade around a player who is known to have poor work ethic and a bit of an attitude.

Kadri will get you Lu's stick and blocker, but the pot needs to be a whole lot sweeter to get the rest of him.

- IanEsplen

Poor work ethic is inaccurate.

Attitude is probably more accurate as ego.

From what I've heard, every single thing that has been done to the guy has been to take him down a peg.

Which makes sense when you look at everything Leafs management has said.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Oct 19 @ 5:31 PM ET
You can have Luca Cereda + Komi
- stoned

Would fit in well with the heartless Canucks.

What?

Too soon?
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Oct 19 @ 5:41 PM ET
Reimer= $1.8 million per season for 2 more years
Scrivens= $0.6 million per season for 2 more years
Total: $2.4 million over 2 years

Luongo= $5.3 million per season for 10 more years

Great to see how you failed elementary school math bud, take a lap

- bardownsouth


Do you want to see wins, goals against average or save percentage?

I'm being nice, take your pick.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Oct 19 @ 5:46 PM ET
Do you want to see wins, goals against average or save percentage?

I'm being nice, take your pick.

- Scooby_Doo



So, your point is that your paying 20 times as much for your backup?
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Oct 19 @ 5:57 PM ET
Actually, I think Franson would be a good addition. Not sure why he didn't prosper in Toronto as he was great in junior and in Nashville....
- chompsey


because ron wilson is a moron and benches good players?
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Oct 19 @ 5:58 PM ET
So, your point is that your paying 20 times as much for your backup?
- prock


oh look who it is.

I know where this is going... okay I'll play... Luongo is better than Reimer.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Oct 19 @ 6:00 PM ET
Ian you need to accept that no matter how much you bang the drum, vancouver is NOT dealing from a position of strength.
These past few months have made that abundantly clear.

Its not a bidding war for LU. Its gillis trying to unload him.

He can wisely play the 'we'll happily keep him' card. But we all know he doesnt want the circus that will inevitably come with it.

Luongo is still elite imo. But that contract length is an abortion.
Imo, gillis takes back some real salary, and ull get a good return along with it. otherwise it'll be a sale
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 19 @ 6:00 PM ET
Would fit in well with the heartless Canucks.

What?

Too soon?

- Atomic Wedgie


Boom!
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Oct 19 @ 6:00 PM ET
oh look who it is.

I know where this is going... okay I'll play... Luongo is better than Reimer.

- Scooby_Doo


yes this is a true statement, your point?
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Oct 19 @ 6:01 PM ET
Ian you need to accept that no matter how much you bang the drum, vancouver is NOT dealing from a position of strength.
These past few months have made that abundantly clear.

Its not a bidding war for LU. Its gillis trying to unload him.

He can wisely play the 'we'll happily keep him' card. But we all know he doesnt want the circus that will inevitably come with it.

- hugefemale dog77


Nice to see Hall playing in the AHL, where he belongs.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Oct 19 @ 6:05 PM ET
Nice to see Hall playing in the AHL, where he belongs.
- Scooby_Doo


That was a pretty good one, but u already gave me a banger location.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Oct 19 @ 6:06 PM ET
I don't want him . Classless puke and my opinion wouldn't change if he was here. I'm personally embarrassed and disgusted that he's Canadian
- I-own_da-Northwest



And I you..... What make you the judge of what's Canadian?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 19 @ 6:07 PM ET
So, your point is that your paying 20 times as much for your backup?
- prock


It would be more of a committee(maybe 48-34 assuming a full season) than a backup role.
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