Soo...how about them Yankees? They have some serious issues on that team.

Because it's the only time he'll ever wear a leaf again.
- Lahey

HA.....

As someone who has 17 restraining orders issued against him, I can definitely say:

It isn't enough to want to be with someone.

If they don't want you, even camping out on their front lawn won't make a difference.
- Atomic Wedgie

well done!

(oh Columbus wants him)

I love how easily you can ignore one of the worst contracts going. Lu is what 34? His best years are gone.
The only way he will hold any sort of significant value is if the CBA address the issue so the contract is less of a risk. That includes the risk of Vancouver getting stuck with his cap hit after he retires. Then he would be worth something.

To even suggest Lupul even as a rental is rediculous. Unless the Leafs can easily ditch him why would they even want Luongo? He couldn't get it done in his prime with a very talented Vancouver team what makes anyone think he's a good investment in a struggling Leafs squad in his twilight years?

Luongo isn't and never has been the answer in Toronto.
- Blazed

So wrong, he is still an elite goaltender, Toronto will make the playoffs with him. He is the answer Toronto needs.

Soo...how about them Yankees? They have some serious issues on that team.





- Nucker101

I love it, they can suck it for all I care.

At this point I think the Canucks should be happy to find a trading partner that will take Luongo without giving too much salary back. Or if salary has to come back its at a position they need (i.e. centre).

Luo's options will be limited, his first choice may be Florida but if they're not interested he's going to have to make some concessions. Either accept playing in another city or stay in Vancouver as the back-up. I think Luongo would love to go to a team/city that needs him and is a big hockey market and Toronto fits the bill. I think he'd also love the opportunity to beat the Canucks on a national stage and show them they were wrong for trading him. Toronto is actually a good place for Luongo family wise, it's close to his home town and a lot closer to his wife's family than Vancouver. I've said this all along, Toronto is the perfect place for Luongo.

I love it, they can suck it for all I care.
- LeftCoaster

The Red Sox too!


I'm glad that a team like the Cardinals is doing so well after losing their star player meanwhile the 2 highest spending teams were a disaster.

At this point I think the Canucks should be happy to find a trading partner that will take Luongo without giving too much salary back. Or if salary has to come back its at a position they need (i.e. centre).

Luo's options will be limited, his first choice may be Florida but if they're not interested he's going to have to make some concessions. Either accept playing in another city or stay in Vancouver as the back-up. I think Luongo would love to go to a team/city that needs him and is a big hockey market and Toronto fits the bill. I think he'd also love the opportunity to beat the Canucks on a national stage and show them they were wrong for trading him. Toronto is actually a good place for Luongo family wise, it's close to his home town and a lot closer to his wife's family than Vancouver. I've said this all along, Toronto is the perfect place for Luongo.
- DarthKane

If the new CBA does actually end up leaving the cap hit, at age 40+, when he’s retired, with the Canucks, he’ll have a decent trade value again.

If the new CBA does actually end up leaving the cap hit, at age 40+, when he’s retired, with the Canucks, he’ll have a decent trade value again.
- prock

Mike Gillis, Ken Holland and several other GM's must be very pissed about that clause haha!!

At this point I think the Canucks should be happy to find a trading partner that will take Luongo without giving too much salary back. Or if salary has to come back its at a position they need (i.e. centre).

Luo's options will be limited, his first choice may be Florida but if they're not interested he's going to have to make some concessions. Either accept playing in another city or stay in Vancouver as the back-up. I think Luongo would love to go to a team/city that needs him and is a big hockey market and Toronto fits the bill. I think he'd also love the opportunity to beat the Canucks on a national stage and show them they were wrong for trading him. Toronto is actually a good place for Luongo family wise, it's close to his home town and a lot closer to his wife's family than Vancouver. I've said this all along, Toronto is the perfect place for Luongo.
- DarthKane

Pretty much agree with all of this. Toronto makes more sense than Columbus. Ian, you listed off their average points but Columbus just traded away their best player and Toronto's achilles heel has been allowing goals, they definitely score enough to win games and Luongo would obviously lower that total by a significant amount.

As for the return, I'd be shocked if someone like Lupul who has great chemistry with Kessel would get traded for Luongo's contract. If they can't re-sign him it probably means that he wants a pretty big contract, something we can't afford. I highly doubt we'll be getting any of Toronto's top assets in return in this deal.

But at the same time, I don't think Gillis is going to take a bad contract(Connolly, Lombardi, Komisarek) in return.

Unless, i'm very much mistaken. I don't think Columbus can just say a late first? Otherwise Pittsburgh may not get a pick.
- walshyleafsfan1

Why not? they have 3 first rounders.

Prospal, Mason and a first rounder of the Blue Jackets choosing in the 2013 draft. Chances are one of the Rangers or Kings picks will be late.

If the new CBA does actually end up leaving the cap hit, at age 40+, when he’s retired, with the Canucks, he’ll have a decent trade value again.
- prock

Which is kind of what makes this rumor so laughable:

Until "The Burkie Clause" is officially in (or out of) a new signed, sealed, delivered CBA, how could the Canucks possibly have a "done deal" for Luongo?

You won't know his worth until you know what the status of his contract is.

Edit: after further reflection, I'm probably way off on this.

If the new CBA does actually end up leaving the cap hit, at age 40+, when he’s retired, with the Canucks, he’ll have a decent trade value again.
- prock

That would definitely increase his trade value and would be a very tough pill to swallow. It would kill teams like Detroit, Vancouver, Chicago, etc.

Which is kind of what makes this rumor so laughable:

Until "The Burkie Clause" is officially in (or out of) a new signed, sealed, delivered CBA, how could the Canucks possibly have a "done deal" for Luongo?

You won't know his worth until you know what the status of his contract is.
- Atomic Wedgie

Good point.

Mike Gillis, Ken Holland and several other GM's must be very pissed about that clause haha!!
- LeftCoaster

Holmgren probably needs a supply of clean underwear.

That's gold Jerry!
- Leafland

Well....when was the last time an all-star signed there? Mike Komisarek....Tom Connolly? See no top level self-respecting player will go there...not in the last 6-8 years anyways.

Well....when was the last time an all-star signed there? Mike Komisarek....Tom Connolly? See no top level self-respecting player will go there...not in the last 6-8 years anyways.
- I-own_da-Northwest

Which makes sense when you look at the standings though. I don't think any leaf fan will disagree with you....

As well as in the burke era, he won't give front loaded long term deals so there's that too

If the new CBA does actually end up leaving the cap hit, at age 40+, when he’s retired, with the Canucks, he’ll have a decent trade value again.
- prock

This clause makes Luongo far more tradable (is that a word) from the receiving team's perspective, but it's creates less incentive for the Canucks to trade him away and risk him retiring and being stuck with the cap him. I've heard so many people say that Luongo won't play for the full term of his contract, if that's the case then why deal him (from a Canucks perspective)? If the clause finds its way into the final CBA the Canucks should seriously consider trading Schneider. At the end of the day both goalies are great, but Schneider will bring you more return with much less risk in the long term. Realistically I know Schneider is the Canucks man between the pipes, but the new CBA (whenever it's in place) could force Gillis to at least consider other options.

Which is kind of what makes this rumor so laughable:

Until "The Burkie Clause" is officially in (or out of) a new signed, sealed, delivered CBA, how could the Canucks possibly have a "done deal" for Luongo?

You won't know his worth until you know what the status of his contract is.
- Atomic Wedgie

How would the Burkie clause affect the Canucks decision? The nucks are screwed either way. No?

This clause makes Luongo far more tradable (is that a word) from the receiving team's perspective, but it's creates less incentive for the Canucks to trade him away and risk him retiring and being stuck with the cap him. I've heard so many people say that Luongo won't play for the full term of his contract, if that's the case then why deal him (from a Canucks perspective)? If the clause finds its way into the final CBA the Canucks should seriously consider trading Schneider. At the end of the day both goalies are great, but Schneider will bring you more return with much less risk in the long term. Realistically I know Schneider is the Canucks man between the pipes, but the new CBA (whenever it's in place) could force Gillis to at least consider other options.
- DarthKane

You trade him because you want to win (cap space and or players coming back), that and the Sedins will be retiring in say three to four years. Need draft picks or talented young players.

How would the Burkie clause affect the Canucks decision? The nucks are screwed either way. No?
- faceto27

Gillis might receive more interest if the clause is in the new CBA. But, I'm not sure if it really effects his trade value since his new team wouldn't have to worry about his cap hit of he retired anyways. He might also consider moving Schneider instead(which I highly doubt at this point).

How would the Burkie clause affect the Canucks decision? The nucks are screwed either way. No?
- faceto27

Hmmmm - I started to rattle off an answer, and then realized maybe you are right.

From the Leafs' perspective, it probably doesn't make a difference.

It's just something for the Canucks to worry about. They may be more reluctant to trade within the conference now, for fear that 6 years down the road, Luongo's new team starts putting pressure on him to retire, just to tie up Canuck cap space.

I don't know - I'm really, really hungry now, so maybe I'm just not thinking straight.

Both Canuck goalies are all-stars? Since when?

How would the Burkie clause affect the Canucks decision? The nucks are screwed either way. No?
- faceto27

In the next five years no, why would they be?