First, you’re making the assumption that every part of what they’re doing is designed to solve economics, which isn’t the case. Some of what they’re doing is designed to stop GMs from circumventing the cap. i.e. improving the rules they put in place, so GMs don’t just dance around them.

Second, let’s walk through this. Let’s take, for example, Luongo. He’s getting paid close to $40M over the first five years of his contract. They’re dropping the cap hit to just over $5M by putting years on the end of the contract that he’ll likely never play. If Luongo carries a cap hit of $8M, like he would if he didn’t have these fake years tacked on to lower his hit, do you think Vancouver still gives him that contract? If they have to start making choices because they can’t fit them all under the cap while paying Luongo $8M, what starts happening? It means Luongo actually gets a salary closer to his cap hit, that’s what. Teams don’t just circumvent the cap with BS years on a contract. Allowing teams to get around the cap allows them to offer outrageous contracts. Which pushes the average salary up, which means it costs more to sign players, etc, etc.
- prock

so the new CBA needs to save the owners from themselves. I know that.

oh, contracts like the small market Wild gave out, I gotcha.
- jimbro83

The Wild are in the top 5 of Profitable teams in the League.

so the new CBA needs to save the owners from themselves. I know that.
- jimbro83

It's not saving themselves, it's regulating themselves. If it's not written down someone will take advantage of it.

You really think that when they created the first one that they could think of all the rules that they would have to implement?

it's like anything dealing with regulations, you set it up, let people test and then you fix the holes and let them test it again.

It's not saving themselves, it's regulating themselves. If it's not written down someone will take advantage of it.

You really think that when they created the first one that they could think of all the rules that they would have to implement?

it's like anything dealing with regulations, you set it up, let people test and then you fix the holes and let them test it again.
- HuileHab

I remember Lou Lamierello being very front and center last time around, insisting the league couldn't live without a salary cap and being a very instrumental architect in developing the expired CBA.

then I saw him give out the Kovalchuk contract, funny how that worked out

I remember Lou Lamierello being very front and center last time around, insisting the league couldn't live without a salary cap and being a very instrumental architect in developing the expired CBA.

then I saw him give out the Kovalchuk contract, funny how that worked out
- jimbro83

Is something wrong with the Kovalchuk contract?

Is something wrong with the Kovalchuk contract?
- prock

well, the Devils still owe a first round pick as a penalty for the first try because even the hawks of these owners can't trust themselves

well, the Devils still owe a first round pick as a penalty for the first try because even the hawks of these owners can't trust themselves
- jimbro83

So, you think there is something wrong with it?

well, the Devils still owe a first round pick as a penalty for the first try because even the hawks of these owners can't trust themselves
- jimbro83

Why should they trust themselves? They are competitors every day of every year that there is a season.
They do what they have to, to put what they think will be the best chance for them to win and make money.

If it means working a loop hole that was not thought about at the time of the first cap then they will do it.

Why should they trust themselves? They are competitors every day of every year that there is a season.
They do what they have to, to put what they think will be the best chance for them to win and make money.

If it means working a loop hole that was not thought about at the time of the first cap then they will do it.
- HuileHab

I think what they should actually do, is just take all rules out. Not only things like the salary cap, but I mean things like slashing, cross checking, all of those types of things. Surely the players can just “trust themselves” right?

I think what they should actually do, is just take all rules out. Not only things like the salary cap, but I mean things like slashing, cross checking, all of those types of things. Surely the players can just “trust themselves” right?
- prock

Don't forget gear. You don't need gear when you trust your fellow player.

well, McDonagh is an American and we believe in Capitalism.
- jimbro83

You also believe in idiocy...and no one does it better than you...

so the new CBA needs to save the owners from themselves. I know that.
- jimbro83

Closing legal loopholes happens all the time. This is no different.

Closing legal loopholes happens all the time. This is no different.
- NightTrain_AlMo

I am also surprised that the owners are not allowed to have made an error. the last time was supposed to have been a win for the owners, yet it seems that the players have reaped the largest benefit.

But according to some dolts here, believing that the owners need to fix the problems is just drinking the Kool-Aid.

I am also surprised that the owners are not allowed to have made an error. the last time was supposed to have been a win for the owners, yet it seems that the players have reaped the largest benefit.

But according to some dolts here, believing that the owners need to fix the problems is just drinking the Kool-Aid.
- OilHorse

The players did extremely well under the last CBA. You'd think they'd be pretty agreeable to letting Gary put another one together, so they can make even more money...

The players did extremely well under the last CBA. You'd think they'd be pretty agreeable to letting Gary put another one together, so they can make even more money...
- prock

you'd think...

I am interested in what ignorant deal is going to be tabled by the NHLPA. Considering they have put nothing together yet and the league has tabled the new start in negotiations.

You can bet that if the PA does not come back with a substantial offer to keep negotiation moving the league will hunker down and lock the players out for the rest of the year.

They better not (frank) this up...or pull an Eklund and do nothing useful