it's early....

and Barkov is Finnish...he will be the new, bigger, stronger, more talented version of Koivu in MTL
- Symba007

Thats Mikko

5 Balls: Columbus
3 Balls: Calgary, Carolina, Dallas, Minnesota, New York Islanders, Toronto, Winnipeg
2 Balls: Anaheim, Buffalo, Colorado, Florida, St. Louis, Tampa Bay
1 Ball: Boston, Chicago, Detroit, Edmonton, Montreal, Nashville, New Jersey, Ottawa, Philadelphia, Phoenix, Pittsburgh, San Jose, Vancouver, Washington

...the Blue Jackets would have just a 9.6% chance of winning.

What would the league-wide reaction be to Nathan MacKinnon in Pittsburgh? What about Los Angeles? And my, oh my, imagine if the Leafs won the lottery.

Now that Bob McKenzie has thrown his hat into the ring, it's time to unveil the initial 2013 Consensus Draft Rankings. The sources for the consensus list are Bob McKenzie, Future Considerations, ISS, Corey Pronman of Hockey Prospectus, and The Scouting Report.

http://nhlnumbers.com/201...top-30-consensus-rankings
- MindFr3eak

Kings dont have a first round pick..It belongs to CBJ

Kings dont have a first round pick..It belongs to CBJ
- poisondhearts37

Just a copy/paste from nhl numbers brah, but thanks didn't know that anyways.

Kings dont have a first round pick..It belongs to CBJ
- poisondhearts37

In the Carter deal?

In the Carter deal?
- MindFr3eak

Yep. Jack Johnson and a first in 2012 or 2013 draft. they opted to take 2013.

Kings dont have a first round pick..It belongs to CBJ
- poisondhearts37

Also off hand I don't think this years pics or traded pics mean anything as other things are considered in a lockout year? Someone with more knowledge can pipe up here please\?

Also off hand I don't think this years pics or traded pics mean anything as other things are considered in a lockout year? Someone with more knowledge can pipe up here please\?
- MindFr3eak

So the kings would lose theyre 2014 pick your saying?

Yep. Jack Johnson and a first in 2012 or 2013 draft. they opted to take 2013.
- poisondhearts37

that's a 30th overall pic thou yeah?

So the kings would lose theyre 2014 pick your saying?
- poisondhearts37

5 Balls: Columbus
3 Balls: Calgary, Carolina, Dallas, Minnesota, New York Islanders, Toronto, Winnipeg
2 Balls: Anaheim, Buffalo, Colorado, Florida, St. Louis, Tampa Bay
1 Ball: Boston, Chicago, Detroit, Edmonton, Montreal, Nashville, New Jersey, Ottawa, Philadelphia, Phoenix, Pittsburgh, San Jose, Vancouver, Washington

...the Blue Jackets would have just a 9.6% chance of winning.

this is all i really know tbh, all bets are off in a lockout

that's a 30th overall pic thou yeah?
- MindFr3eak

CBJ chose the 2013 first rounder. We used our 2012 pick. the 2013 pick we dont know what it would turn out to be. I assume with a lottery draft that CBJ would still get LA's pick. It would most def be a late first rounder though.

funny enough nhlnumbers.com does not have the kings in the equation.

5 Balls: Columbus
3 Balls: Calgary, Carolina, Dallas, Minnesota, New York Islanders, Toronto, Winnipeg
2 Balls: Anaheim, Buffalo, Colorado, Florida, St. Louis, Tampa Bay
1 Ball: Boston, Chicago, Detroit, Edmonton, Montreal, Nashville, New Jersey, Ottawa, Philadelphia, Phoenix, Pittsburgh, San Jose, Vancouver, Washington

...the Blue Jackets would have just a 9.6% chance of winning.

this is all i really know tbh, all bets are off in a lockout
- MindFr3eak

LA isnt even listed. Why wouldnt they get atleast one ball. Thats treating it like theyre winning the cup again. Not that it matters to us since CBJ holds the first pick. But it would factor into our later round picks.

CBJ chose the 2013 first rounder. We used our 2012 pick. the 2013 pick we dont know what it would turn out to be. I assume with a lottery draft that CBJ would still get LA's pick. It would most def be a late first rounder though.
- poisondhearts37

i think cup winners pic is last pic overall,,, in a full lockout thou i think the rules change and pick changes do not matter.

i think cup winners pic is last pic overall,,, in a full lockout thou i think the rules change and pick changes do not matter.
- MindFr3eak

Right. We just picked last overall for winning the cup. Seems weird to not have a ball at all for the lottery draft. Cant treat the Kings as cup winners again for the lock out year.

I think in a lockout thelottery saves the kings ass and they draft wherever and the 1st to columbus does not matter?

Not quite sure but sounds interesting.

I think in a lockout thelottery saves the kings ass and they draft wherever and the 1st to columbus does not matter?

Not quite sure but sounds interesting.
- MindFr3eak

CBJ should still get two first round picks in the lottery draft.

CBJ should still get two first round picks in the lottery draft.
- poisondhearts37

they get 5 balls or 9.62% to win for mckinnon if lockout goes all year, you can bet they get mckinnon hands down.

CBJ should still get two first round picks in the lottery draft.
- poisondhearts37

Funny thou, any team thinking a full year lockout trading the 1st for a run at the cup took a great chance

CBJ should still get two first round picks in the lottery draft.
- poisondhearts37

From what i read they get 5 balls and a 9%+ chance at first overall

5 Balls: Columbus
3 Balls: Calgary, Carolina, Dallas, Minnesota, New York Islanders, Toronto, Winnipeg
2 Balls: Anaheim, Buffalo, Colorado, Florida, St. Louis, Tampa Bay
1 Ball: Boston, Chicago, Detroit, Edmonton, Montreal, Nashville, New Jersey, Ottawa, Philadelphia, Phoenix, Pittsburgh, San Jose, Vancouver, Washington

...the Blue Jackets would have just a 9.6% chance of winning.

What would the league-wide reaction be to Nathan MacKinnon in Pittsburgh? What about Los Angeles? And my, oh my, imagine if the Leafs won the lottery.

Now that Bob McKenzie has thrown his hat into the ring, it's time to unveil the initial 2013 Consensus Draft Rankings. The sources for the consensus list are Bob McKenzie, Future Considerations, ISS, Corey Pronman of Hockey Prospectus, and The Scouting Report.

http://nhlnumbers.com/201...top-30-consensus-rankings
- MindFr3eak

I don't think this is right. CLB only gets 3 balls, that's the most you can get. It looks like they combined the CLB and LA picks together which isn't true. CLB gets a 3 ball chance at the #1 and LA's pick get (according to their numbers) a 2 ball chance. They don't get a 5 chance at #1 they get a 3 and a 2 chance. It's not a combination of picks, it's two separate picks. This isn't accurate.

I think in a lockout thelottery saves the kings ass and they draft wherever and the 1st to columbus does not matter?

Not quite sure but sounds interesting.
- MindFr3eak

No, they traded the pick. Why would they still pick if it was traded? The lockout has no bearing on drtaft picks traded 7-8months ago.

i think cup winners pic is last pic overall,,, in a full lockout thou i think the rules change and pick changes do not matter.
- MindFr3eak

No. That makes zero sense.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2005e.html


Lots of trades.... WASH picked twice. I don't even know how or why you'd think that.

they get 5 balls or 9.62% to win for mckinnon if lockout goes all year, you can bet they get mckinnon hands down.
- MindFr3eak

That is false.

Funny thou, any team thinking a full year lockout trading the 1st for a run at the cup took a great chance
- MindFr3eak

LA traded their pick and won the cup. It paid off. LA doesn't have a pick this draft.

CBJ should still get two first round picks in the lottery draft.
- poisondhearts37

They do, 3 balls and 2 balls. The article has mistakenly combined the 2 which is false.