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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Oct 11 @ 12:25 PM ET
Thing is, Gomez wasn't hyped until Gionta signed then it was Gomez and Gionta Re-igniting the magic of 05-06, woot! then bleh
- HuileHab

Good times.

Almost as bad was Monster + Komi + Beauch = NHL shutout record
Dgrdnr
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Newly appointed ambassador of the Nordiques thread
Joined: 10.12.2009

Oct 11 @ 12:25 PM ET
Ultimate?

How about Over-Rated???

- yemrots


Jealousy...
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Oct 11 @ 12:25 PM ET
Ultimate?

How about Over-Rated???

- yemrots

i was thinking LOLtimate
mr.peanut
Location: The Fan of Hockey. Welcome Utah!, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Oct 11 @ 12:25 PM ET
At least give Kristo a chance to blow it first, no?
- oniremosewa

For Ray

Very good read about the Kristo situation and the overall NCAA loophole

My question to you, is why would you make a statement about Kristo when you clearly don't know what the rules are. I'm just curious as to why people on this site make statements when they don't even know what the rules are, wouldn't it be better to ask what the rules are first so you know before making statements.

So often on this board over the years I continue to see people say this or that about prospects when they clearly don't even know what the rules are, which imo makes it hard to take someone seriously. I know this is directed at you but I want to address this to everyone since I can't count the number of times I've read various posters state incorrect facts.


Here's how it works in the NCAA. If you are drafted and at going to play in the NCAA there are two things that happen. One, the player goes directly to the NCAA the following season after being drafted. This is known as being a true Freshman, and the NHL team has to sign you after the player completes 4 years, he must be signed before August 15th or he will become a UFA. The second thing that can happen is instead of going directly to the NCAA, said draft pick spends the following season after being drafted outside of the NCAA. This could be any league that isn't considered pro by the NCAA, so USHL, USHS, BCHL, etc.... Once that happens, there is a loop hole that after said players 3rd season in the NCAA he can opt to become a UFA on July 1st but in order to due so he has to do two things, one is he must inform the NHL team that selected him that he wishes to become a UFA, he must due so before June 1st. The second is that he will let the school know that he will not be returning to the NCAA for his senior year.

If a NCAA draft pick that is eligible to become a UFA after their junior year opts NOT to become a UFA, then that loop hole is forever closed, meaning he can only sign with the team that drafted him and can NOT become a UFA unless of course the NHL team in question doesn't want to sign him. So Kristo has no options but to sign with the Habs, unless of course he wants out of hockey, maybe to run his own bar. If he wants to play in the NHL he has to sign with the Habs.

Here's the list of players that can opt out of signing with the Habs after their Junior year,

Mac Bennett- (Junior) He can opt out as long as he informs the Habs before June 1st, 2013, if he doesn't do so by then he can only sign with the Habs.

Mark MacMillan- (Sophmore) He can opt out as long as he informs the Habs before June 1st, 2014, if he doesn't do so by then he can only sign with the Habs.

Colin Sullivan- (Freshman) He can opt out as long as he informs the Habs before June 1st, 2015, if he doesn't do so by then he can only sign with the Habs.

The remaining NCAA draft picks, Dustin Walsh, Danny Kristo, Mike Cichy, and Josiah Didier all can NOT use the loop hole so they can only sign with the Habs
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Oct 11 @ 12:26 PM ET
For Ray

Very good read about the Kristo situation and the overall NCAA loophole

My question to you, is why would you make a statement about Kristo when you clearly don't know what the rules are. I'm just curious as to why people on this site make statements when they don't even know what the rules are, wouldn't it be better to ask what the rules are first so you know before making statements.

So often on this board over the years I continue to see people say this or that about prospects when they clearly don't even know what the rules are, which imo makes it hard to take someone seriously. I know this is directed at you but I want to address this to everyone since I can't count the number of times I've read various posters state incorrect facts.


Here's how it works in the NCAA. If you are drafted and at going to play in the NCAA there are two things that happen. One, the player goes directly to the NCAA the following season after being drafted. This is known as being a true Freshman, and the NHL team has to sign you after the player completes 4 years, he must be signed before August 15th or he will become a UFA. The second thing that can happen is instead of going directly to the NCAA, said draft pick spends the following season after being drafted outside of the NCAA. This could be any league that isn't considered pro by the NCAA, so USHL, USHS, BCHL, etc.... Once that happens, there is a loop hole that after said players 3rd season in the NCAA he can opt to become a UFA on July 1st but in order to due so he has to do two things, one is he must inform the NHL team that selected him that he wishes to become a UFA, he must due so before June 1st. The second is that he will let the school know that he will not be returning to the NCAA for his senior year.

If a NCAA draft pick that is eligible to become a UFA after their junior year opts NOT to become a UFA, then that loop hole is forever closed, meaning he can only sign with the team that drafted him and can NOT become a UFA unless of course the NHL team in question doesn't want to sign him. So Kristo has no options but to sign with the Habs, unless of course he wants out of hockey, maybe to run his own bar. If he wants to play in the NHL he has to sign with the Habs.

Here's the list of players that can opt out of signing with the Habs after their Junior year,

Mac Bennett- (Junior) He can opt out as long as he informs the Habs before June 1st, 2013, if he doesn't do so by then he can only sign with the Habs.

Mark MacMillan- (Sophmore) He can opt out as long as he informs the Habs before June 1st, 2014, if he doesn't do so by then he can only sign with the Habs.

Colin Sullivan- (Freshman) He can opt out as long as he informs the Habs before June 1st, 2015, if he doesn't do so by then he can only sign with the Habs.

The remaining NCAA draft picks, Dustin Walsh, Danny Kristo, Mike Cichy, and Josiah Didier all can NOT use the loop hole so they can only sign with the Habs

- mr.peanut

Agreed
RENATO6
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I like you, the flower is kill, ON
Joined: 08.12.2009

Oct 11 @ 12:26 PM ET
Most of the guys on that team couldn't play in the NHL today.
- yemrots



Correct...Naslund-H. Richard "A"-Cournoyer would get run out of the rink by the Leafs 3rd line...
3M
Location: Antigua
Joined: 06.30.2009

Oct 11 @ 12:27 PM ET
i recall him laying a nice beating on Steve Ott.

not saying he was a good fighter or even a deterrent, but he stood up for his teammates.

- DoubleDown


Pretty sure that was Ryan White. Ott was running around taking shots at Montreal's top players. White got on the ice, didn't bother asking permission, and filled in Ott's face.
RENATO6
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I like you, the flower is kill, ON
Joined: 08.12.2009

Oct 11 @ 12:27 PM ET
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yemrots
Location: Leafs need a backup goalie more than a stud defenceman this year
Joined: 03.04.2008

Oct 11 @ 12:27 PM ET
Correct...Naslund-H. Richard "A"-Cournoyer would get run out of the rink by the Leafs 3rd line...
- RENATO6

Yep...bunch of midgets.
The game has changed those little pipsqueaks would get killed.

Keep living in the past Habbies.
RENATO6
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I like you, the flower is kill, ON
Joined: 08.12.2009

Oct 11 @ 12:27 PM ET
Pretty sure that was Ryan White. Ott was running around taking shots at Montreal's top players. White got on the ice, didn't bother asking permission, and filled in Ott's face.
- 3M



Your story lost credibility here....


RENATO6
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I like you, the flower is kill, ON
Joined: 08.12.2009

Oct 11 @ 12:28 PM ET
Yep...bunch of midgets.
The game has changed those little pipsqueaks would get killed.

Keep living in the past Habbies.

- yemrots



**can Sacha call Howard at work to come here and ban Stormey for a year?**
yemrots
Location: Leafs need a backup goalie more than a stud defenceman this year
Joined: 03.04.2008

Oct 11 @ 12:28 PM ET
Pretty sure that was Ryan White. Ott was running around taking shots at Montreal's top players. White got on the ice, didn't bother asking permission, and filled in Ott's face.
- 3M

Wow...so he jumped him.
HuileHab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I eat richards for breakfast! - stormey
Joined: 03.01.2010

Oct 11 @ 12:29 PM ET
Recchi?? he put up some really good seasons in Montreal. was no longer playing with generational players though.

and Gionta led the team in goal scoring his first 2 years here.

- DoubleDown


Comparing the Hype to the actual production

With Recchi, we were getting a 230 point player in the last 2 seasons and we gave up an All star Dman, a future Power forward that just had a great playoffs.

He never came close to that potential, sure the team wasn't great but he also never reached the hype that the single season flyers record holder came with.

Gionta is combined with Gomez, and i'm not saying Gionta is Horrible, but the hype that the two of them had together during that summer was never reached.
HuileHab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I eat richards for breakfast! - stormey
Joined: 03.01.2010

Oct 11 @ 12:29 PM ET
Good times.

Almost as bad was Monster + Komi + Beauch = NHL shutout record

- AdamFrench

The New Big Three!
3M
Location: Antigua
Joined: 06.30.2009

Oct 11 @ 12:29 PM ET
Your story lost credibility here....



- RENATO6


They were top players by default.
3M
Location: Antigua
Joined: 06.30.2009

Oct 11 @ 12:30 PM ET
Wow...so he jumped him.
- yemrots


And?
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Oct 11 @ 12:30 PM ET
Comparing the Hype to the actual production

With Recchi, we were getting a 230 point player in the last 2 seasons and we gave up an All star Dman, a future Power forward that just had a great playoffs.

He never came close to that potential, sure the team wasn't great but he also never reached the hype that the single season flyers record holder came with.

Gionta is combined with Gomez, and i'm not saying Gionta is Horrible, but the hype that the two of them had together during that summer was never reached.

- HuileHab

the LEGION OF DOOM
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Oct 11 @ 12:32 PM ET
Pretty sure that was Ryan White. Ott was running around taking shots at Montreal's top players. White got on the ice, didn't bother asking permission, and filled in Ott's face.
- 3M


99% sure it was Murray. it was the game before Carbo got fired. White wasn't on the team yet.
tennisball
Joined: 10.16.2008

Oct 11 @ 12:32 PM ET
Last chance.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Oct 11 @ 12:32 PM ET
Last chance.
- tennisball

HuileHab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I eat richards for breakfast! - stormey
Joined: 03.01.2010

Oct 11 @ 12:33 PM ET
the LEGION OF DOOM
- Crimsoninja


DPing Quebec since 1994
tennisball
Joined: 10.16.2008

Oct 11 @ 12:33 PM ET
**can Sacha call Howard at work to come here and ban Stormey for a year?**
- RENATO6

Well your little worked.

OMG stormey was picking on me!!!
Dgrdnr
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Newly appointed ambassador of the Nordiques thread
Joined: 10.12.2009

Oct 11 @ 12:34 PM ET
Last chance.
- tennisball


yesssss
HuileHab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I eat richards for breakfast! - stormey
Joined: 03.01.2010

Oct 11 @ 12:35 PM ET
Well your little worked.

OMG stormey was picking on me!!!

- tennisball

I would take a guess that the Mods just got a flood of little
Dgrdnr
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Newly appointed ambassador of the Nordiques thread
Joined: 10.12.2009

Oct 11 @ 12:36 PM ET
I would take a guess that the Mods just got a flood of little
- HuileHab


I hit it whenever stormey or dan post.
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