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Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Oct 9 @ 8:39 AM ET
Fascinating.
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Oct 9 @ 8:41 AM ET
Very good read about the Kristo situation and the overall NCAA loophole

My question to you, is why would you make a statement about Kristo when you clearly don't know what the rules are. I'm just curious as to why people on this site make statements when they don't even know what the rules are, wouldn't it be better to ask what the rules are first so you know before making statements.

So often on this board over the years I continue to see people say this or that about prospects when they clearly don't even know what the rules are, which imo makes it hard to take someone seriously. I know this is directed at you but I want to address this to everyone since I can't count the number of times I've read various posters state incorrect facts.


Here's how it works in the NCAA. If you are drafted and at going to play in the NCAA there are two things that happen. One, the player goes directly to the NCAA the following season after being drafted. This is known as being a true Freshman, and the NHL team has to sign you after the player completes 4 years, he must be signed before August 15th or he will become a UFA. The second thing that can happen is instead of going directly to the NCAA, said draft pick spends the following season after being drafted outside of the NCAA. This could be any league that isn't considered pro by the NCAA, so USHL, USHS, BCHL, etc.... Once that happens, there is a loop hole that after said players 3rd season in the NCAA he can opt to become a UFA on July 1st but in order to due so he has to do two things, one is he must inform the NHL team that selected him that he wishes to become a UFA, he must due so before June 1st. The second is that he will let the school know that he will not be returning to the NCAA for his senior year.

If a NCAA draft pick that is eligible to become a UFA after their junior year opts NOT to become a UFA, then that loop hole is forever closed, meaning he can only sign with the team that drafted him and can NOT become a UFA unless of course the NHL team in question doesn't want to sign him. So Kristo has no options but to sign with the Habs, unless of course he wants out of hockey, maybe to run his own bar. If he wants to play in the NHL he has to sign with the Habs.

Here's the list of players that can opt out of signing with the Habs after their Junior year,

Mac Bennett- (Junior) He can opt out as long as he informs the Habs before June 1st, 2013, if he doesn't do so by then he can only sign with the Habs.

Mark MacMillan- (Sophmore) He can opt out as long as he informs the Habs before June 1st, 2014, if he doesn't do so by then he can only sign with the Habs.

Colin Sullivan- (Freshman) He can opt out as long as he informs the Habs before June 1st, 2015, if he doesn't do so by then he can only sign with the Habs.

The remaining NCAA draft picks, Dustin Walsh, Danny Kristo, Mike Cichy, and Josiah Didier all can NOT use the loop hole so they can only sign with the Habs.

- QuebecPride


we're saved.

EDIT: I didn't understood a thing out of that drivel of a longcat
_nay_
Boston Bruins
Location: "aaaargh my leg!!!" -Max Pacioretty
Joined: 04.06.2011

Oct 9 @ 8:43 AM ET
we're saved.

EDIT: I didn't understood a thing out of that drivel of a longcat

- stinger67

OH
MY
GAWD.
Rayven
Boston Bruins
Location: The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Joined: 07.21.2009

Oct 9 @ 8:44 AM ET
Very good read about the Kristo situation and the overall NCAA loophole
- QuebecPride


bye
QuebecPride
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Sherbrooke, QC
Joined: 11.30.2009

Oct 9 @ 8:44 AM ET
Fascinating.
- Pecafan Fan


Well basically he cant sign anywhere else, he missed his lone opportunity to leave the Habs and sign with another NHL team last summer. So if he wanted out, he'd be gone.

It's frustrating to see him go back to University, but the guy has loads of talent, he's a party boy and loves the fact that he's the center of attention at UND.

I believe he will be able to make the jump straight to the NHL next year, given that he fills out his frame a bit and dedicates himself in the gym for once.

Read a comparison on another realm(lol) and it made sense, Matt Read.
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Oct 9 @ 8:46 AM ET
Well basically he cant sign anywhere else, he missed his lone opportunity to leave the Habs and sign with another NHL team last summer. So if he wanted out, he'd be gone.

It's frustrating to see him go back to University, but the guy has loads of talent, he's a party boy and loves the fact that he's the center of attention at UND.

I believe he will be able to make the jump straight to the NHL next year, given that he fills out his frame a bit and dedicates himself in the gym for once.

Read a comparison on another realm(lol) and it made sense, Matt Read.

- QuebecPride


He will love Wheeling next season.
number_23
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Euuuuh, un porc-épic?
Joined: 10.15.2008

Oct 9 @ 8:46 AM ET
OH
MY
GAWD.

- _nay_


oh
my
good...
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Oct 9 @ 8:46 AM ET


wow.
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Oct 9 @ 8:46 AM ET
He will love Wheeling next season.
- stinger67

QuebecPride
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Sherbrooke, QC
Joined: 11.30.2009

Oct 9 @ 8:48 AM ET
He will love Wheeling next season.
- stinger67


Doubt it.
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Oct 9 @ 8:50 AM ET


wow.

- Pecafan Fan

I would never take a plane that was going to crash. That's just dumb.
QuebecPride
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Sherbrooke, QC
Joined: 11.30.2009

Oct 9 @ 8:52 AM ET
I would never take a plane that was going to crash. That's just dumb.
- hscesq


You have an algorithm to predict which place is the 1/200000th one that will crash?

Lucky you
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

Oct 9 @ 8:55 AM ET
The lack of understanding of the difference between do/due negates any point that may have once been valid.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Oct 9 @ 8:57 AM ET
The lack of understanding of the difference between do/due negates any point that may have once been valid.
- muffin_man

Its there problem.
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Oct 9 @ 8:58 AM ET
Its there problem.
- Symba007

hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Oct 9 @ 8:58 AM ET
The lack of understanding of the difference between do/due negates any point that may have once been valid.
- muffin_man

What dew you mean?
scotch_tape
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: he's coming
Joined: 07.26.2012

Oct 9 @ 8:59 AM ET
The lack of understanding of the difference between do/due negates any point that may have once been valid.
- muffin_man


relax dued
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Oct 9 @ 9:02 AM ET
Very good read about the Kristo situation and the overall NCAA loophole

My question to you, is why would you make a statement about Kristo when you clearly don't know what the rules are. I'm just curious as to why people on this site make statements when they don't even know what the rules are, wouldn't it be better to ask what the rules are first so you know before making statements.

So often on this board over the years I continue to see people say this or that about prospects when they clearly don't even know what the rules are, which imo makes it hard to take someone seriously. I know this is directed at you but I want to address this to everyone since I can't count the number of times I've read various posters state incorrect facts.


Here's how it works in the NCAA. If you are drafted and at going to play in the NCAA there are two things that happen. One, the player goes directly to the NCAA the following season after being drafted. This is known as being a true Freshman, and the NHL team has to sign you after the player completes 4 years, he must be signed before August 15th or he will become a UFA. The second thing that can happen is instead of going directly to the NCAA, said draft pick spends the following season after being drafted outside of the NCAA. This could be any league that isn't considered pro by the NCAA, so USHL, USHS, BCHL, etc.... Once that happens, there is a loop hole that after said players 3rd season in the NCAA he can opt to become a UFA on July 1st but in order to due so he has to do two things, one is he must inform the NHL team that selected him that he wishes to become a UFA, he must due so before June 1st. The second is that he will let the school know that he will not be returning to the NCAA for his senior year.

If a NCAA draft pick that is eligible to become a UFA after their junior year opts NOT to become a UFA, then that loop hole is forever closed, meaning he can only sign with the team that drafted him and can NOT become a UFA unless of course the NHL team in question doesn't want to sign him. So Kristo has no options but to sign with the Habs, unless of course he wants out of hockey, maybe to run his own bar. If he wants to play in the NHL he has to sign with the Habs.

Here's the list of players that can opt out of signing with the Habs after their Junior year,

Mac Bennett- (Junior) He can opt out as long as he informs the Habs before June 1st, 2013, if he doesn't do so by then he can only sign with the Habs.

Mark MacMillan- (Sophmore) He can opt out as long as he informs the Habs before June 1st, 2014, if he doesn't do so by then he can only sign with the Habs.

Colin Sullivan- (Freshman) He can opt out as long as he informs the Habs before June 1st, 2015, if he doesn't do so by then he can only sign with the Habs.

The remaining NCAA draft picks, Dustin Walsh, Danny Kristo, Mike Cichy, and Josiah Didier all can NOT use the loop hole so they can only sign with the Habs.
_nay_
Boston Bruins
Location: "aaaargh my leg!!!" -Max Pacioretty
Joined: 04.06.2011

Oct 9 @ 9:03 AM ET
Very good read about the Kristo situation and the overall NCAA loophole

My question to you, is why would you make a statement about Kristo when you clearly don't know what the rules are. I'm just curious as to why people on this site make statements when they don't even know what the rules are, wouldn't it be better to ask what the rules are first so you know before making statements.

So often on this board over the years I continue to see people say this or that about prospects when they clearly don't even know what the rules are, which imo makes it hard to take someone seriously. I know this is directed at you but I want to address this to everyone since I can't count the number of times I've read various posters state incorrect facts.


Here's how it works in the NCAA. If you are drafted and at going to play in the NCAA there are two things that happen. One, the player goes directly to the NCAA the following season after being drafted. This is known as being a true Freshman, and the NHL team has to sign you after the player completes 4 years, he must be signed before August 15th or he will become a UFA. The second thing that can happen is instead of going directly to the NCAA, said draft pick spends the following season after being drafted outside of the NCAA. This could be any league that isn't considered pro by the NCAA, so USHL, USHS, BCHL, etc.... Once that happens, there is a loop hole that after said players 3rd season in the NCAA he can opt to become a UFA on July 1st but in order to due so he has to do two things, one is he must inform the NHL team that selected him that he wishes to become a UFA, he must due so before June 1st. The second is that he will let the school know that he will not be returning to the NCAA for his senior year.

If a NCAA draft pick that is eligible to become a UFA after their junior year opts NOT to become a UFA, then that loop hole is forever closed, meaning he can only sign with the team that drafted him and can NOT become a UFA unless of course the NHL team in question doesn't want to sign him. So Kristo has no options but to sign with the Habs, unless of course he wants out of hockey, maybe to run his own bar. If he wants to play in the NHL he has to sign with the Habs.

Here's the list of players that can opt out of signing with the Habs after their Junior year,

Mac Bennett- (Junior) He can opt out as long as he informs the Habs before June 1st, 2013, if he doesn't do so by then he can only sign with the Habs.

Mark MacMillan- (Sophmore) He can opt out as long as he informs the Habs before June 1st, 2014, if he doesn't do so by then he can only sign with the Habs.

Colin Sullivan- (Freshman) He can opt out as long as he informs the Habs before June 1st, 2015, if he doesn't do so by then he can only sign with the Habs.

The remaining NCAA draft picks, Dustin Walsh, Danny Kristo, Mike Cichy, and Josiah Didier all can NOT use the loop hole so they can only sign with the Habs.

- mr.peanut


Such wittiness.
number_23
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Euuuuh, un porc-épic?
Joined: 10.15.2008

Oct 9 @ 9:03 AM ET
I would never take a plane that was going to crash. That's just dumb.
- hscesq


Why are the pilots called 'brave'? They have parachutes and are jumping out of the plane...the only way they could die is if they are dumb and stay in the plane...
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Oct 9 @ 9:06 AM ET
Very good read about the Kristo situation and the overall NCAA loophole

My question to you, is why would you make a statement about Kristo when you clearly don't know what the rules are. I'm just curious as to why people on this site make statements when they don't even know what the rules are, wouldn't it be better to ask what the rules are first so you know before making statements.

So often on this board over the years I continue to see people say this or that about prospects when they clearly don't even know what the rules are, which imo makes it hard to take someone seriously. I know this is directed at you but I want to address this to everyone since I can't count the number of times I've read various posters state incorrect facts.


Here's how it works in the NCAA. If you are drafted and at going to play in the NCAA there are two things that happen. One, the player goes directly to the NCAA the following season after being drafted. This is known as being a true Freshman, and the NHL team has to sign you after the player completes 4 years, he must be signed before August 15th or he will become a UFA. The second thing that can happen is instead of going directly to the NCAA, said draft pick spends the following season after being drafted outside of the NCAA. This could be any league that isn't considered pro by the NCAA, so USHL, USHS, BCHL, etc.... Once that happens, there is a loop hole that after said players 3rd season in the NCAA he can opt to become a UFA on July 1st but in order to due so he has to do two things, one is he must inform the NHL team that selected him that he wishes to become a UFA, he must due so before June 1st. The second is that he will let the school know that he will not be returning to the NCAA for his senior year.

If a NCAA draft pick that is eligible to become a UFA after their junior year opts NOT to become a UFA, then that loop hole is forever closed, meaning he can only sign with the team that drafted him and can NOT become a UFA unless of course the NHL team in question doesn't want to sign him. So Kristo has no options but to sign with the Habs, unless of course he wants out of hockey, maybe to run his own bar. If he wants to play in the NHL he has to sign with the Habs.

Here's the list of players that can opt out of signing with the Habs after their Junior year,

Mac Bennett- (Junior) He can opt out as long as he informs the Habs before June 1st, 2013, if he doesn't do so by then he can only sign with the Habs.

Mark MacMillan- (Sophmore) He can opt out as long as he informs the Habs before June 1st, 2014, if he doesn't do so by then he can only sign with the Habs.

Colin Sullivan- (Freshman) He can opt out as long as he informs the Habs before June 1st, 2015, if he doesn't do so by then he can only sign with the Habs.

The remaining NCAA draft picks, Dustin Walsh, Danny Kristo, Mike Cichy, and Josiah Didier all can NOT use the loop hole so they can only sign with the Habs.

- mr.peanut

Agreed.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Oct 9 @ 9:06 AM ET
Why are the pilots called 'brave'? They have parachutes and are jumping out of the plane...the only way they could die is if they are dumb and stay in the plane...
- number_23

Do you know what else is dumb? Taking a plane that will crash.

AmIrightHoward
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Oct 9 @ 9:06 AM ET
Agreed.
- mr.peanut

Goodbye
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Oct 9 @ 9:08 AM ET
Goodbye
- Symba007

Where are you going?
number_23
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Euuuuh, un porc-épic?
Joined: 10.15.2008

Oct 9 @ 9:09 AM ET
Do you know what else is dumb? Taking a plane that will crash.

AmIrightHoward

- Symba007


Yeah, I've never done that either...

Even if they discounted the price I wouldn't take it...I'm not sure about Howard in a case like that...
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