Its actually an interesting point..... what other cities, in any sport really, support a team that is in the second best league in their city? Places like Halifax or Quebec City, sure, they'll go to Moose head and Rem parts games. But that's the best they have to offer.

What's the attendance Ike for the Montreal junior team?
- prock

dunno...but there's a reason their AHL team is technically in a Leafs market...

Actually you did. You said Toronto doesn't support their teams. They do. You were wrong. Again.
- Two_For_Truth

Where did I argue that Toronto doesn't have pro sports teams? Oh, I didn't. Exactly.
And ya, I did say they don't support their teams. And guess what? So did other Leafs fans! Go back and try reading the posts again. I think you can handle that.

...You've never been to Halifax have you?
I'd love to hear what you think it's like out here. Everyone cheers for whatever sports team they're closest to? Is that really how you think it works?
- woopstash

no.. most of them old enough to know anything cheer for the Leafs

And ya, I did say they don't support their teams.
- woopstash

Must be why they don't have those teams right? Because they can't support them.

he biggest faction of toronto sports fans would be Leaf fans. "Toronto sports fans" is 80% Leaf fans. By calling Toronto sport fans fair weather, you're calling Leaf fans fair weather.

80% of the people you just called fair weather are possibly the most loyal fans in the world to the Leafs.

Or are you trying to tell us that you think toronto sports fans are fair weather when it comes to the teams that aren't their favourite?
- prock

You're getting desperate.
Leafs fans told me they support the Raptors and Jays only when they win.
That's the exact definition of a fair weather fan.

no.. most of them old enough to know anything cheer for the Leafs
- Big_Lightnin

Actually a lot of Habs and Bruins fans here. Habs fans are pretty bad too. Leafs fans have been declining in recent years.

You're getting desperate.
Leafs fans told me they support the Raptors and Jays only when they win.
That's the exact definition of a fair weather fan.
- woopstash

you have no team, you support an american team when you live in canada and your Canadian. do you cheer for team USA as well? you should be kicked out of canada

edit: and dont give me the bs of players that are american/canadian

Must be why they don't have those teams right? Because they can't support them.
- Two_For_Truth

Because as we all know, just because there is a sports team in a city, that means it's being supported fully.
Look at the Coyotes, Pacers and Sacramento Kings. Just because you have a sports team it doesn't mean that people support it in full force. Teams with better attendance have relocated.

you have no team, you support an american team when you live in canada and your Canadian. do you cheer for team USA as well? you should be kicked out of canada

edit: and dont give me the bs of players that are american/canadian
- Mapleleafs_91

So let me guess, you cheer for the Canucks and Habs when they're in the playoffs against American teams?

You're getting desperate.
Leafs fans told me they support the Raptors and Jays only when they win.
That's the exact definition of a fair weather fan.
- woopstash

people spend money to go to games when they win. That's all sports teams everywhere...except the Leafs of course.

People still WATCH Jays and Raptor games, and are still FANS and cheer for them to win, but shelling out money to go to go watch a team play live you know is going to lose is just plain stupid.

EDIT:

oh and

What about Calgary, Edmonton and Vancouver? They all support their junior teams even more than Toronto supports an AHL team.
- woopstash

There are THREE OHL teams in the GTA though.... plus an AHL team. Do those cities support their teams better than Toronto supports the Marlies, Generals, Steel heads, and Battalion combined? Plus an NBA team operating at the same time?

The answer is no, because those cities wouldn't support them, so they don't locate there. You're calling Toronto ans fair weather for bad attendance figures in other sports and minor league teams, when the only other city to have another major league team lost it, because they couldn't support it.

Because as we all know, just because there is a sports team in a city, that means it's being supported fully.
Look at the Coyotes, Pacers and Sacramento Kings. Just because you have a sports team it doesn't mean that people support it in full force. Teams with better attendance have relocated.
- woopstash

speaking of relocation, shouldn't you?

you have no team, you support an american team when you live in canada and your Canadian. do you cheer for team USA as well? you should be kicked out of canada

edit: and dont give me the bs of players that are american/canadian
- Mapleleafs_91

He's actually a Canucks fan. He's just temporarily bandwagoning to the Penguins in a disgraceful attempt to hide the shame of being a Canucks fan.

Actually a lot of Habs and Bruins fans here. Habs fans are pretty bad too. Leafs fans have been declining in recent years.
- woopstash

ya ya I know...

I got a ton of family out there. Everybody (my relatives) over 30 is a Leafs fans. Kids are more Pens fans etc...

So let me guess, you cheer for the Canucks and Habs when they're in the playoffs against American teams?
- woopstash

canucks no. habs i have some minor interest in since my buddy is a habs fan and was raised a habs fan passed down the lines but usually i dont cheer for anyone. I dont care. The first canadian team to win the cup again will be the oilers

dunno...but there's a reason their AHL team is technically in a Leafs market...
- Big_Lightnin

Another good point. Hell, even other teams put their AHL teams close to Toronto.

There are THREE OHL teams in the GTA though.... plus an AHL team. Do those cities support their teams better than Toronto supports the Marlies, Generals, Steel heads, and Battalion combined? Plus an NBA team operating at the same time?

The answer is no, because those cities wouldn't support them, so they don't locate there. You're calling Toronto ans fair weather for bad attendance figures in other sports and minor league teams, when the only other city to have another major league team lost it, because they couldn't support it.
- prock

My GTA doesn't include Oshawa...

Because as we all know, just because there is a sports team in a city, that means it's being supported fully.
Look at the Coyotes, Pacers and Sacramento Kings. Just because you have a sports team it doesn't mean that people support it in full force. Teams with better attendance have relocated.
- woopstash

Must be why the Raptors and the Blue Jays are getting relocated soon.

He's actually a Canucks fan. He's just temporarily bandwagoning to the Penguins in a disgraceful attempt to hide the shame of being a Canucks fan.
- Two_For_Truth

oh well that changes everything

There are THREE OHL teams in the GTA though.... plus an AHL team. Do those cities support their teams better than Toronto supports the Marlies, Generals, Steel heads, and Battalion combined? Plus an NBA team operating at the same time?

The answer is no, because those cities wouldn't support them, so they don't locate there. You're calling Toronto ans fair weather for bad attendance figures in other sports and minor league teams, when the only other city to have another major league team lost it, because they couldn't support it.
- prock

Actually it was because of ownership like I previously said.
Toronto is a big city. For the "hockey centre of the universe" they should be able to draw more fans than other cities do to junior games.

Must be why the Raptors and the Blue Jays are getting relocated soon.
- Two_For_Truth

Oh nice, a new argument from you. How thoughtful.
Did you even read my last response? Do you even know how to read?

He's actually a Canucks fan. He's just temporarily bandwagoning to the Penguins in a disgraceful attempt to hide the shame of being a Canucks fan.
- Two_For_Truth

Keep trying, bud.
I've watched my favourite team win 3 Cups. It's been nice.

canucks no. habs i have some minor interest in since my buddy is a habs fan and was raised a habs fan passed down the lines but usually i dont cheer for anyone. I dont care. The first canadian team to win the cup again will be the oilers
- Mapleleafs_91

You don't cheer for Canadian teams? You should be kicked out of Canada.

Oh nice, a new argument from you. How thoughtful.
Did you even read my last response? Do you even know how to read?
- woopstash

oh no you di'int

Actually it was because of ownership like I previously said.
Toronto is a big city. For the "hockey centre of the universe" they should be able to draw more fans than other cities do to junior games.
- woopstash

1) Hockey is bigger in canada than the US, way more viewings in canada, US is getting there though now since US teams are winning the cup. The two top historical teams in canada are the habs and the leafs. I wouldnt say we are the center but its a shared stage between the habs and the leafs. Always was sorta i would say. We are the most emotional fans in the NHL and expect alot from our teams each and every time they go out there to compete because of how many cups we have, because our historical presence.