Attendance figures for the Panthers mean squat.

They literally give tickets away.
- Atomic Wedgie

Which would have been my next point.

If it weren't for snowbirds, the Panthers would have been relocated already.

Which would have been my next point.

If it weren't for snowbirds, the Panthers would have been relocated already.
- Two_For_Truth

http://blogs.sun-sentinel...-giving-away-tickets.html

imagine that promotion in TO or MTL

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_hockey_panthers/2011/01/panthers-giving-away-tickets.html

imagine that promotion in TO or MTL
- Symba007

Fans would get married just to get free tickets

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_hockey_panthers/2011/01/panthers-giving-away-tickets.html

imagine that promotion in TO or MTL
- Symba007

A few years ago, the attendance record was set when the Habs came to town.

And a promotion like that in Totonto, would incite riots.

A few years ago, the attendance record was set when the Habs came to town.

And a promotion like that in Totonto, would incite riots.
- Two_For_Truth[/img]

Maybe they should do that for the Marlies.

Maybe they should do that for the Marlies.
- robin_steele264

Bring the Habs to town? Or give away free tickets?

Maybe they should do that for the Marlies.
- robin_steele264

Wanna marry me?

Wanna marry me?
- Symba007

Double date with Carey and his boyfriend.

1) Tampa won a cup, you dont get rid of franchises that won cups.

2) I like going to florida to watch cheap NHL games on vacation, BACK OFF
- Mapleleafs_91

Exactly. I go to 6 - 10 Lightning games per season. St Louis and Stamkos are amazing.

Get rid of Nashville before Tampa

Top 20 Canadian Hockey League Average Attendance 2011-2012:

1. Quebec Remparts (11,724)
2. Calgary Hitmen (8973)
3. London Knights (8953)
4. Vancouver Giants (6944)
5. Halifax Mooseheads (6608)
6. Ottawa 67s (6507)
7. Spokane Chiefs (6443)
8. Edmonton Oil Kings (6421)
9. Kitchener Rangers (6365)
10. Kelowna Rockets (6082)
11. Portland Winterhawks (6075)
12. Windsor Spitfires (5859)
13. Victoria Royals (5660)
14. Everett Silvertips (5278)
15. Saskatoon Blades (5048)
16. Red Deer Rebels (4858)
17. Tri-City Americans (4653)
18. Saint John Sea Dogs (4561)
19. Oshawa Generals (4383)
20. Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds (4316)


The OHL in general doesn't do very well attendance wise.


Hockey league's average attendance:

1. NHL 17,455
2. WCHA 6,386
3. AHL 5,638
4. WHL 4,716
5. ECHL 4,281
6. Hockey East 4,071
7. Central Hockey League 4,042
8. OHL 3,915
9. CCHA 3,494
10. QMJHL 3,489
- woopstash

holy quebec city.

give them back an nhl franchise

Exactly. I go to 6 - 10 Lightning games per season. St Louis and Stamkos are amazing.

Get rid of Nashville before Tampa
- Leafsandbolts

not the soundest logic.
weber and rinne are amazing too...

neither of these teams would be at the top of my list for relocation.

it HAS to be the panthers and/or the coyotes

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_hockey_panthers/2011/01/panthers-giving-away-tickets.html

imagine that promotion in TO or MTL
- Symba007

Dude, that's nothing:

http://mirtle.blogspot.ca...-ticket-giveaway.html?m=1

not the soundest logic.
weber and rinne are amazing too...

neither of these teams would be at the top of my list for relocation.

it HAS to be the panthers and/or the coyotes
- hugefemale dog77

2011-12 Attendance in reverse order

30.Coyotes (12421 - average)
29. Islanders (13191)
28. Stars (14227)
27. Jackets
26. Ducks
25. Jets
24. Devils
23. Avalanche
22. Hurricanes
21. Panthers
20. Predators
19. Oilers

Guess I was biased against Predators based on personal experience. Why are you set on the
Panthers?

Guess I was biased against Predators based on personal experience. Why are you set on the
Panthers?
- Leafsandbolts

Absolutely horrible location for a franchise.

Absolutely horrible location for a franchise.
- Two_For_Truth

Not a traditional hockey location but rink is easy to get to by car, airport close, team entertaining, and attendance not terrible?

Not a traditional hockey location but rink is easy to get to by car, airport close, team entertaining, and attendance not terrible?
- Leafsandbolts

Tickets are dirt cheap or free. Not a good location at all. It's in Sunrise. Middle of nowhere. Airport is not close. Closest major airport is in Fort Lauderdale and it's at least a good 30 to 45 minutes away. Most years, the team sucks and the only sellouts they get are when they play the Habs or the Leafs.

One hockey team in Florida is enough and without Stamkos, even one might be too many.

Toronto is not a hockey town. Or sports town. They show up to Leaf games and that's it. Can't blame them. All their teams suck.

Toronto is not a hockey town. Or sports town. They show up to Leaf games and that's it. Can't blame them. All their teams suck.
- woopstash

They show up to Leaf games regardless if the team sucks or not. Aside from that, its a city that only supports winning and doesnt care much for losing. When the Jays and Raptors were respectable the buildings were packed. Same with the TFC. But the losing has gone on so long, fans have been turned off.

Much like how it was in Pittsburgh with the Pens...and how they almost folded and left the league. Losing does wonders, except in rare cases like the Leafs.

Toronto is a "major league" town.

They'll support the NBA, NHL, MLB, and NFL but nothing else.
Argos can't draw
Marlies wont draw.
The IHL in its day couldn't survive with the roadrunners.
IF its not "major league" then it doesn't get support in T.O.

They show up to Leaf games regardless if the team sucks or not. Aside from that, its a city that only supports winning and doesnt care much for losing. When the Jays and Raptors were respectable the buildings were packed. Same with the TFC. But the losing has gone on so long, fans have been turned off.

Much like how it was in Pittsburgh with the Pens...and how they almost folded and left the league. Losing does wonders, except in rare cases like the Leafs.
- systemtool

Ya, good point. Toronto sports teams are all pretty brutal. Almost to the point where it's funny. I mean really... How can all these teams from the same city all be so crappy?

Toronto is a "major league" town.

They'll support the NBA, NHL, MLB, and NFL but nothing else.
Argos can't draw
Marlies wont draw.
The IHL in its day couldn't survive with the roadrunners.
IF its not "major league" then it doesn't get support in T.O.
- B-Wforever

Didn't they have to give away thousands of tickets when the Bills came to Toronto? And aren't the Jays usually near the bottom of the league in average attendance? Toronto sports fans are sports snobs.

Ya, good point. Toronto sports teams are all pretty brutal. Almost to the point where it's funny. I mean really... How can all these teams from the same city all be so crappy?
- woopstash

Not all cities can be as lucky as Vancouver.

Oh wait...

Not all cities can be as lucky as Vancouver.

Oh wait...
- Two_For_Truth

Huh?
The Jays attendance also has to do with Rogers Centre being such a crappy venue. And the Jays suck...
Just funny how people think Toronto is the centre of the hockey universe yet they can't even support an AHL team.

Huh?
The Jays attendance also has to do with Rogers Centre being such a crappy venue. And the Jays suck...
Just funny how people think Toronto is the centre of the hockey universe yet they can't even support an AHL team.
- woopstash

The problem is that there is too much to do in Toronto that fans cant support it every team in every sport at every level.

Toronto is as close to the center of the hockey universe as you can get. Whether or not the minor league teams can be supported.

Didn't they have to give away thousands of tickets when the Bills came to Toronto? And aren't the Jays usually near the bottom of the league in average attendance? Toronto sports fans are sports snobs.
- woopstash

The Bills are not a Toronto team. The Jays suck and dont spend. Why should fans pay to watch them? Or any team in Toronto for that matter. Toronto sports fans have too many options, and theyre not that great to begin with. It has nothing to do with being a snob or not.