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mantosh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 06.30.2006

Oct 3 @ 2:21 PM ET
Wrong



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrence_Pegula

"I am not in this to make money. If I wanted to make more money I would drill another hole in the ground". Terry Pegula, Buffalo Sabres owner.

- Buffalo--Sabres


And then he RAISED ticket prices!!!
faceto27
Location: Burke: Best part of today is I
Joined: 01.21.2010

Oct 3 @ 2:22 PM ET
The NBC puts exactly zero pressure on nothing.

They knew that a lockout was coming when they signed the deal.

If there is no hockey this year, NBC still pays the NHL, and in return, NBC gets NHL rights for an additional year.

http://sports.yahoo.com/b...-2012-171130920--nhl.html

Sorry to burst your bubble, but NBC has jack to do with this.

- Atomic Wedgie



BUT,.............

NBC gets an additional year for FREE.

Based on the continuing growth, that additional year, which is tacked on at the end will be worth substantially more than the current year

Pressure exists
braidan
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: State of Corruption.
Joined: 09.27.2006

Oct 3 @ 2:22 PM ET
The flyers are owned one third by Snider and the other two thirds by Comcast. Comcast is 87% owned by mutual funds and institutional holders.

Am I wrong?

- faceto27

no, just saying what I had heard elsewhere.
serves me right for not doing my research
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 3 @ 2:23 PM ET
NBC owned by Comcast owned by Snider who owns Flyers.
Not sure about any pressure from someone who is in the inner circle of the whole lockout.

- braidan



Ed Snider does not own Comcast. He works for Comcast.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Oct 3 @ 2:23 PM ET
The reason this is nonesense is because if the NHL is soooooo interested in seeing this new proposal that would work for them then why wouldn't they just propose it themselves? Wouldn't that make sense?
- xxCHRISTOFIRExx

cause the players wouldn't agree to it, they have to be the ones that look like they are in control
Isles4fornow
New York Islanders
Location: East End, NY
Joined: 10.06.2010

Oct 3 @ 2:23 PM ET
The NBC puts exactly zero pressure on nothing.

They knew that a lockout was coming when they signed the deal.

If there is no hockey this year, NBC still pays the NHL, and in return, NBC gets NHL rights for an additional year.

http://sports.yahoo.com/b...-2012-171130920--nhl.html

Sorry to burst your bubble, but NBC has jack to do with this.

- Atomic Wedgie


Atomic Bubble Bursting Wedgie
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 3 @ 2:24 PM ET
And then he RAISED ticket prices!!!
- mantosh



Why didn't he just dig another hole in the ground to cover it?
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Oct 3 @ 2:24 PM ET
That's real nice PR, but it's BS. Whose side do you think Terry Pegula is on in this lockout?
- MJL


He has stated the players are asking for too much money. However he operates his business in the red because he not only doesn't care, but he wants to be competiive. Ironically he is a huge part of the current problem because of his willingness to overspend.
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Oct 3 @ 2:25 PM ET
And then he RAISED ticket prices!!!
- mantosh



To become the 23rd highest in the league. Woooooooooooo. That greedy (frank)er. (sarcasm font).
braidan
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: State of Corruption.
Joined: 09.27.2006

Oct 3 @ 2:26 PM ET
Just for clarification, who is in their rights to fix what was broken on the last one?
- MJL

They both are.
Yes the players gave up alot last time, but the owners gave up alot to get the structure in place as well. If the cap didn't work you can be sure the players would not have exercised their right to extend and they would be negotiating to have it removed in the new CBA.

BOTH sides have to do what is best for the sport.

Owners/players/agents will seek out loopholes to get the most money for the best players or the smallest caphit for their best players.

They need to have EVERY possibility spelled out in the next CBA and how it should be handled.
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Oct 3 @ 2:26 PM ET
Why didn't he just dig another hole in the ground to cover it?
- MJL



He raised them to 23rd highest to not forgo funds from revenue sharing.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Oct 3 @ 2:26 PM ET
I'd like to see the league use replacement players and those guys start a union and go on strike after a handful of games.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Oct 3 @ 2:27 PM ET
That's real nice PR, but it's BS. Whose side do you think Terry Pegula is on in this lockout?
- MJL

I'm even willing to believe he got into the business out of love for the game. But a successful businessman like Mr. Pegula knows that love doesn't keep the lights on, and that kindness doesn't get the job done at the bargaining table. It's his job to get the best deal for the Sabres organization he can, same as every other owner.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 3 @ 2:27 PM ET
He has stated the players are asking for too much money. However he operates his business in the red because he not onl doesn't care, but he wants to be competiive. Ironically he is a huge part of the current problem because of his willingness to overspend.
- Buffalo--Sabres



You realize that there is inherent profit in that the franchises grow in value over time? It's an investment and business, first and foremost. Most Owners want to be competitive and win. And nobody has accurate information on the true financial picture of teams, including Forbes.
Isles4fornow
New York Islanders
Location: East End, NY
Joined: 10.06.2010

Oct 3 @ 2:28 PM ET
Ed Snider does not own Comcast. He works for Comcast.
- MJL


Edward M. "Ed" Snider (born January 6, 1933, Washington, D.C.) is the chairman of Comcast Spectacor, a Philadelphia-based sports and entertainment company that owns the Philadelphia Flyers of the National Hockey League, the Wells Fargo Center, the regional sports network Comcast SportsNet and Global Spectrum, an international facilities management company

Now we know
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 3 @ 2:28 PM ET
I'm even willing to believe he got into the business out of love for the game. But a successful businessman like Mr. Pegula knows that love doesn't keep the lights on, and that kindness doesn't get the job done at the bargaining table. It's his job to get the best deal for the Sabres organization he can, same as every other owner.
- BulliesPhan87



Agreed.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Oct 3 @ 2:28 PM ET
NBC owned by Comcast owned by Snider who owns Flyers.
Not sure about any pressure from someone who is in the inner circle of the whole lockout.

- braidan


Snider does not own comcast, he is the chairman of Comcast spectacor. Big difference.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 3 @ 2:28 PM ET
Edward M. "Ed" Snider (born January 6, 1933, Washington, D.C.) is the chairman of Comcast Spectacor, a Philadelphia-based sports and entertainment company that owns the Philadelphia Flyers of the National Hockey League, the Wells Fargo Center, the regional sports network Comcast SportsNet and Global Spectrum, an international facilities management company

Now we know

- Isles4fornow



All owned by Comcast.
Isles4fornow
New York Islanders
Location: East End, NY
Joined: 10.06.2010

Oct 3 @ 2:29 PM ET
I'd like to see the league use replacement players and those guys start a union and go on strike after a handful of games.
- Lahey


braidan
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: State of Corruption.
Joined: 09.27.2006

Oct 3 @ 2:30 PM ET
Snider does not own comcast, he is the chairman of Comcast spectacor. Big difference.
- funmaster18

I think I got it after the 2nd time I was corrected.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Oct 3 @ 2:30 PM ET
Why didn't he just dig another hole in the ground to cover it?
- MJL


Isles4fornow
New York Islanders
Location: East End, NY
Joined: 10.06.2010

Oct 3 @ 2:31 PM ET
All owned by Comcast.
- MJL


Obviously

Who gives a sh!t...nobody is negotiating with them
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Oct 3 @ 2:31 PM ET
You realize that there is inherent profit in that the franchises grow in value over time? It's an investment and business, first and foremost. Most Owners want to be competitive and win. And nobody has accurate information on the true financial picture of teams, including Forbes.
- MJL







Thats the problem. We can sit here and hem and haw for months about who is wrong, but there isn't a nhlownergeek.com that tells us how much profit they get from the plethora of ads in and around every arena.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 3 @ 2:31 PM ET
They both are.
Yes the players gave up alot last time, but the owners gave up alot to get the structure in place as well. If the cap didn't work you can be sure the players would not have exercised their right to extend and they would be negotiating to have it removed in the new CBA.

BOTH sides have to do what is best for the sport.

Owners/players/agents will seek out loopholes to get the most money for the best players or the smallest caphit for their best players.

They need to have EVERY possibility spelled out in the next CBA and how it should be handled.

- braidan



Do you see the League doing anything in their proposals to fix the League? I don't. It's just more of the same. They want the players to foot the bill. The players are willing to give up hundreds of millions of future earnings along with increased revenue sharing from the rich clubs. Which the League rejected. All the League did is move some off of the base of the their ridiculous and asinine first proposal.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Oct 3 @ 2:31 PM ET
I think I got it after the 2nd time I was corrected.
- braidan


And obviously I had not read that far through the comments yet.
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