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Isles4fornow
New York Islanders
Location: East End, NY
Joined: 10.06.2010

Oct 1 @ 12:35 PM ET
Eh, coaching is more than just getting pissed off. If that's all there was to it, every NHL team would be beating down Jim Playfair's door for a head coaching position:


- UIF


lol...if gillies was a coach, that would be him
Isles4fornow
New York Islanders
Location: East End, NY
Joined: 10.06.2010

Oct 1 @ 12:38 PM ET
You are absolutely correct. I just dont get why we baby our players. I see such a difference between other teams and the coaches. You can see on teh coaches face when they are pissed and know they will whip there team into action. Crappy just stands there with his arms cross like oh well we are not suppose to be good anyway.
- kasperrko


Typical deer in the headlights look...but i dont just want a coach that barks at the referees....he needs to be tough with the players as well, not overbearing but tough....but if this continues to be the way they go forward these kids will never develop the live or die tryin mentality that you need to be successful in this league, atleast not in Islanders colors as we have seen many times before.....maybe we could make a vodeo montage of Al Arbour and let the video run the team....GOD I MISS AL!!!
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Oct 1 @ 1:04 PM ET
Typical deer in the headlights look...but i dont just want a coach that barks at the referees....he needs to be tough with the players as well, not overbearing but tough....but if this continues to be the way they go forward these kids will never develop the live or die tryin mentality that you need to be successful in this league, atleast not in Islanders colors as we have seen many times before.....maybe we could make a vodeo montage of Al Arbour and let the video run the team....GOD I MISS AL!!!
- Isles4fornow


Wang would love it. it would be so cheap
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Oct 1 @ 1:06 PM ET
God, please let this article be true! Getting Wang out of the picture and getting an owner committed to the area would be a windfall for Isles' fans. Having team alumni like Nystrom or Lafontaine involved with any purchasing group would only be the icing on the cake.
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Oct 1 @ 1:07 PM ET
Eh, coaching is more than just getting pissed off. If that's all there was to it, every NHL team would be beating down Jim Playfair's door for a head coaching position:


- UIF


Now there is a coach.If he did that on our team like that half the guys would be crying and wetting there pants begging for there moms. We must have the biggest bunch of wusses ever on a NHL team.

Oh and I saw your comment on DP. Way to get under my skin. the best thing about this lock out is not seeing that clown
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Oct 1 @ 1:07 PM ET
God, please let this article be true! Getting Wang out of the picture and getting an owner committed to the area would be a windfall for Isles' fans. Having team alumni like Nystrom or Lafontaine involved with any purchasing group would only be the icing on the cake.
- Jethro09


If it is true then happy days ahead you know they would do the right thing and right the ship. I am sure the coaches and GM would be the first to go
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Oct 1 @ 1:12 PM ET
Nobody's buying this franchise for $300 million. I can't even see someone in a hockey-starved Canadian market paying that much. Double the franchise value? Not likely. $200 million is more realistic, and even that is a significant mark-up and a barrier for most, possibly all, willing to keep the team local.

Edit -- I'd add that two possible buyers willing to keep the team local (Blumenfeld and, in an infinitely better scenario for us, investor-backed LaFontaine) without anyone actually frantically trying to sell the team yet is a good thing. Doesn't seem like it's an Atlanta situation as of now with no one interested in keeping the team in its current market. If push came to shove and Wang was in full sell mode or threatening to move the team or whatever, I think the league would strong-arm him into coming back down to planet Earth with his asking price if there were interested local buyers.

- UIF

Wang's not getting $300M and he knows it. But if he doesn't ask for it, he can't get it. So it doesn't hurt to get "$300M" out there.

He paid $180M and lost probably close to that on the team since he's owned it. He'd probably take around $200M, recoup his purchase price and a few dollars towards the 10 years of losses. After all of the business write-offs he likely took on the team losing $$ all of these years, getting around $200M for this team would be a nice return for Wang and will allow him to safe face on this unmitigated disaster of a purchase he got himself into.
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Oct 1 @ 2:07 PM ET
Nobody's buying this franchise for $300 million. I can't even see someone in a hockey-starved Canadian market paying that much. Double the franchise value? Not likely. $200 million is more realistic, and even that is a significant mark-up and a barrier for most, possibly all, willing to keep the team local.

Edit -- I'd add that two possible buyers willing to keep the team local (Blumenfeld and, in an infinitely better scenario for us, investor-backed LaFontaine) without anyone actually frantically trying to sell the team yet is a good thing. Doesn't seem like it's an Atlanta situation as of now with no one interested in keeping the team in its current market. If push came to shove and Wang was in full sell mode or threatening to move the team or whatever, I think the league would strong-arm him into coming back down to planet Earth with his asking price if there were interested local buyers.

- UIF



I didnt say it was realistic... but it would be awesome if it happened!

XxNYIxX
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Oct 1 @ 2:07 PM ET
Seriously I was looking at that list and i was waiting for that clowns name to be up there.

Good job Dee for not including him on the list as he has been the biggest bust possible is sports history!!!

- kasperrko



My god.. not even close. Not even in the top 50


XxNYIxX
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Oct 1 @ 2:09 PM ET
I didnt say it was realistic... but it would be awesome if it happened!

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX


Agreed!
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Oct 1 @ 2:12 PM ET
I mean that is a no brainer right there. I am sorry Capuano and crew are not coaches to me for the NHL. Iw ould keep them for the AHL but NHL nope. We need a tough grind em type of coach who is actually going to go hard on the guys unstead of babying them. Doug Weight on the other hand call me carzy but I think he would be decent as a NHL coach as he has fire
- kasperrko



Soooo let me get this straight.... Just so im on the same page as you.

Garth Snow couldn't be a good GM because he was a back up goalie with no experience.
Cappy cant be a good NHL coach because he's just an AHL coach.

Weight would be a good coach because he's never coached a game in his life?

this is the thought process yes?

XxNYIxX
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Oct 1 @ 2:15 PM ET
God, please let this article be true! Getting Wang out of the picture and getting an owner committed to the area would be a windfall for Isles' fans. Having team alumni like Nystrom or Lafontaine involved with any purchasing group would only be the icing on the cake.
- Jethro09



I gotta ask thou.. how much does LaFontaine love this Logo.. because the franchise has shlt on him more times then I can count & he still wants to save this ship.


XxNYIxX
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Oct 1 @ 2:32 PM ET
Soooo let me get this straight.... Just so im on the same page as you.

Garth Snow couldn't be a good GM because he was a back up goalie with no experience.
Cappy cant be a good NHL coach because he's just an AHL coach.

Weight would be a good coach because he's never coached a game in his life?

this is the thought process yes?

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX


No Garth Snow has proved to the fans he can not be a GM as he can never pull off a trade with some type of controversy. Or he tells us one thing and never follows through. He is great at the AHL level but NHL no way.

Crappy is not a good coash perios w3as not that good in the AHL but since the ISlanders are cheap he had no choice to bring in the pizza man to coach. Plus he has no fire and seems to be lost and when Tavares ripped the clip board out of his hands to make a play I mean come on already.

Weight I think would be good cause he has NHL experience unlike Crappy who played 2 games. Weight knows how to win plus he has fire in the belly
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Oct 1 @ 2:33 PM ET
My god.. not even close. Not even in the top 50


XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX


Youa re joking right?? I would say simply in the top three right behind Ryan Leaf
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Oct 1 @ 2:35 PM ET
Anyone know how Lafontaine's health is these days with respect to his concussions?

Is he completely over him?

He was a class act.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Oct 1 @ 2:48 PM ET
I gotta ask thou.. how much does LaFontaine love this Logo.. because the franchise has shlt on him more times then I can count & he still wants to save this ship.


XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX



Wang shat on Patty that's for sure. Patty would come back in a heartbeat if Wang sold the team. Only way this team will win is if they get a new owner and arena in that order.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Oct 1 @ 2:49 PM ET
Anyone know how Lafontaine's health is these days with respect to his concussions?

Is he completely over him?

He was a class act.

- Atomic Wedgie



I think he is fine now. MSG did a feature on him last year and he seemed with it. He has a sick house right on the water with a rink in his backyard
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Oct 1 @ 2:55 PM ET
No Garth Snow has proved to the fans he can not be a GM as he can never pull off a trade with some type of controversy. Or he tells us one thing and never follows through. He is great at the AHL level but NHL no way.

Crappy is not a good coash perios w3as not that good in the AHL but since the ISlanders are cheap he had no choice to bring in the pizza man to coach. Plus he has no fire and seems to be lost and when Tavares ripped the clip board out of his hands to make a play I mean come on already.

Weight I think would be good cause he has NHL experience unlike Crappy who played 2 games. Weight knows how to win plus he has fire in the belly

- kasperrko



Like #99? 1,487 NHL games

or

Peter Laviolette?? 12 NHL games

XxNYIxX
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Oct 1 @ 2:58 PM ET
Youa re joking right?? I would say simply in the top three right behind Ryan Leaf
- kasperrko



Not even close.. He has played 315 NHL games over 10 seasons.

there are top 3 picks that never play a single game in their sport.. So how you wouldn't rate them higher then him I have no idea. You are going on feeling rather then logic with this one.

XxNYIxX
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Oct 1 @ 3:00 PM ET
Anyone know how Lafontaine's health is these days with respect to his concussions?

Is he completely over him?

He was a class act.

- Atomic Wedgie



They must still be effecting him pretty badly if he wants anything to do with this Franchise!!



XxNYIxX
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Oct 1 @ 3:06 PM ET
They must still be effecting him pretty badly if he wants anything to do with this Franchise!!



XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX


His hatred is for Wang not the Isles logo or fans
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Oct 1 @ 3:14 PM ET
Like #99? 1,487 NHL games

or

Peter Laviolette?? 12 NHL games

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX


Well said. Hey, Doug Weight might be the greatest coach in the history of the league...can we let him coach a few games at any level before appointing him as the next under-experienced coach of the Isles? What if we threw Weight in there and he was no better than Cappy? Are we going to fire him and hire yet another coach in the middle of a rebuild begging for some stability? I'm all for a coaching change, but let's get someone experienced in there to settle the ship and deliver a consistent message to our young players. I think there's a time to take chances on rookie coaches. A critical stage in the rebuild, coming off two straight experiments with rookie coaches, might not be the best time to do it again.
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Oct 1 @ 3:34 PM ET
Well said. Hey, Doug Weight might be the greatest coach in the history of the league...can we let him coach a few games at any level before appointing him as the next under-experienced coach of the Isles? What if we threw Weight in there and he was no better than Cappy? Are we going to fire him and hire yet another coach in the middle of a rebuild begging for some stability? I'm all for a coaching change, but let's get someone experienced in there to settle the ship and deliver a consistent message to our young players. I think there's a time to take chances on rookie coaches. A critical stage in the rebuild, coming off two straight experiments with rookie coaches, might not be the best time to do it again.
- UIF


Iam not ready to throw him in there I just think he is an upgrade to Crappy as he has a lot more NHL experience and has played at this high level for years. Crappy was a career AHL player and has no sense of the NHL
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Oct 1 @ 3:37 PM ET
Not even close.. He has played 315 NHL games over 10 seasons.

there are top 3 picks that never play a single game in there sport.. So how you wouldn't rate them higher then him I have no idea. You are going on feeling rather then logic with this one.

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX


Well umm ok but still one of the biggest bust in franchise history with all teh hype when we signed him. Dave Chyzowski might be up there too but DP has been nothing but a disaster for this franchise
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Oct 1 @ 3:40 PM ET
Like #99? 1,487 NHL games

or

Peter Laviolette?? 12 NHL games

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX


Again Crappy was an AHL player and nothing more so he does not have a clue. Laviolette has been blessed with good teams. I mean for Crappy I dont know if the results would be different if he had a good team but Iwill save that for a rainy day. Just rather have some else behind the bench then someone who justs walks back and forth and wipes his mouth every 3 seconds. Seems like he drools or something
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