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canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Sep 24 @ 1:09 PM ET
Tim Kerr didn't make anybody's team?

Is this based on them playing today with the speed of the game? Obviously you have alot of great players to choose from but Kerr will always be remembered by me for killing us.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Sep 24 @ 1:12 PM ET
Tim Kerr didn't make anybody's team?

Is this based on them playing today with the speed of the game? Obviously you have alot of great players to choose from but Kerr will always be remembered by me for killing us.

- canadianpenfan


Kerr did start as a center (and take a lot of faceoffs even afterwards) but most of his Flyers career was spent on the wing. He'll be in the winger pool.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Sep 24 @ 1:12 PM ET
This is work AS A FLYER. Not as an Av.
- bodiva88

It actually doesn't say that. It was just the criteria that Bill used when he made his selection. He didn't oppress us with it but merely suggested it.

I certainly think it's the best way to go.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Sep 24 @ 1:14 PM ET
This is work AS A FLYER. Not as an Av.
- bodiva88


still keeping G and Foppa
iroc4me2
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Spring Mount, PA
Joined: 06.17.2007

Sep 24 @ 1:24 PM ET
anyone have a good link to the HC LEV vs YUGRA game????
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Sep 24 @ 1:26 PM ET
Kerr did start as a center (and take a lot of faceoffs even afterwards) but most of his Flyers career was spent on the wing. He'll be in the winger pool.
- bmeltzer



Oh my bad Bill, I didn't read carefully enough and didn't realize this was only centers.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Sep 24 @ 1:29 PM ET
Kerr did start as a center (and take a lot of faceoffs even afterwards) but most of his Flyers career was spent on the wing. He'll be in the winger pool.
- bmeltzer


Bill, one person suggested that each player would be centering a specific line (i.e. 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th). Is that what you had in mind?

If so, I am amending my prior lineup and rolling out:

1st line - Lindros
2nd line - Giroux
3rd line - Clarke
4th line - Brindy

I figured Lindros on the first line because in today's modern game he could still forecheck, create space, pass, and score. And also destroy people.

Giroux on the second line is a no brainer for me.

Clarke on the third line because in a modern game I think this is where he belongs. What an annoying guy to place against.

Brindy - can win you the faceoffs and play D. I feel his hands of stone would be less of an issue here.


I could really flip a coin between Brindy and Richards - both winners of cups for the wrong teams. They are really close IMO.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Sep 24 @ 1:31 PM ET
Oh my bad Bill, I didn't read carefully enough and didn't realize this was only centers.
- canadianpenfan


No worries. We are pretty laid back here on this thread.

A Pope once said to err is human to forive divine
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Sep 24 @ 1:38 PM ET
The longer that I think about it the more I think Brind'Amour was the wrong choice. Rick MacLeish has to be on there.

Clarke
MacLeish
Lindros then Polin
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Sep 24 @ 1:39 PM ET
Just xurious if the impossible might happen. With the news that pronger's diognosis is poor and that Timonen may not return, could the flyers be looking for d help? The Pens could use some better offensive prospects. Flyers some D prospects? could the two teams make a deal?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 24 @ 1:52 PM ET
Just xurious if the impossible might happen. With the news that pronger's diognosis is poor and that Timonen may not return, could the flyers be looking for d help? The Pens could use some better offensive prospects. Flyers some D prospects? could the two teams make a deal?
- ChrisMS


As far as Timonen not returning, are you referring to after this Season? I think it's safe to say that the Flyers are definitely looking for D help.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Sep 24 @ 1:55 PM ET
Just xurious if the impossible might happen. With the news that pronger's diognosis is poor and that Timonen may not return, could the flyers be looking for d help? The Pens could use some better offensive prospects. Flyers some D prospects? could the two teams make a deal?
- ChrisMS

Highly doubtful. I can count the trades in division in the last 10 years on one hand. Most of those were with the last place Islanders.
flyers4487
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jamison, PA
Joined: 02.15.2007

Sep 24 @ 2:07 PM ET
Now your really showing your age. Poulin was a very strong Captain. But Clarke captained and led his team to 2 Stanley Cups.
- MJL

I just wanted to foster a debate lol, I have never seen either of them play (minus the alumni game) so I figured id go with the less obvious choice
flyers4487
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jamison, PA
Joined: 02.15.2007

Sep 24 @ 2:08 PM ET
There's absolutely zero question about the captaincy. It's Bobby Clarke's. Hands down, not even a debate.
- Jsaquella

I wish I was alive to watch flyers hockey of the 70s and mid to late 80s
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 24 @ 2:09 PM ET
I just wanted to foster a debate lol, I have never seen either of them play (minus the alumni game) so I figured id go with the less obvious choice
- flyers4487



As a player, in every aspect, Bobby Clarke is a Hall of Famer. Poulin while a very good player and a strong Captain, is not a Hall of Famer.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Sep 24 @ 2:12 PM ET
Just xurious if the impossible might happen. With the news that pronger's diognosis is poor and that Timonen may not return, could the flyers be looking for d help? The Pens could use some better offensive prospects. Flyers some D prospects? could the two teams make a deal?
- ChrisMS


The possibility is there, but it's probably not likely. The last time the Flyers made an in-division trade was in the summer of 2010, when they flipped Dan Hamhuis' rights to the Pens.

The last player for player trade between the Flyers and another Atlantic division team was December of 2006. The Flyers traded Randy Robitaille & a pick to the Islanders for Mike York. Four days prior to that the same two teams swapped defensemen Alexei Zhitnik & Freddy Meyer.

The last significant "name" trade between the Flyers & another Atlantic team was in 2001. Eric Lindros was traded to the Rangers for Jan Hlavac, Pavel Brendl, Kim Johnsson and a 3rd rounder.

The last non-rights trade(i.e. player for player or picks) between the Flyers & Pens was Kevin Stevens to Pittsburgh for John Slaney, in January of 2001.

The last trade between the Flyers and Devils? Flyers traded a 3rd rounder for goalie Glenn "Chico" Resch on March 11th, 1986.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Sep 24 @ 2:19 PM ET
The possibility is there, but it's probably not likely. The last time the Flyers made an in-division trade was in the summer of 2010, when they flipped Dan Hamhuis' rights to the Pens.

The last player for player trade between the Flyers and another Atlantic division team was December of 2006. The Flyers traded Randy Robitaille & a pick to the Islanders for Mike York. Four days prior to that the same two teams swapped defensemen Alexei Zhitnik & Freddy Meyer.

The last significant "name" trade between the Flyers & another Atlantic team was in 2001. Eric Lindros was traded to the Rangers for Jan Hlavac, Pavel Brendl, Kim Johnsson and a 3rd rounder.

The last non-rights trade(i.e. player for player or picks) between the Flyers & Pens was Kevin Stevens to Pittsburgh for John Slaney, in January of 2001.

The last trade between the Flyers and Devils? Flyers traded a 3rd rounder for goalie Glenn "Chico" Resch on March 11th, 1986.

- Jsaquella


I'll say it a little differently, other than the obvious players (letang, crosby, malkin, neal) that the Pens aren't trading, they have a bunch of crap that we don't want.
twotoekenn
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: perkasie, PA
Joined: 12.16.2009

Sep 24 @ 2:19 PM ET
Most people when looking at players think just in terms of offense and not the rest of the game, such as 2 way play, leadership, and intangibles. Not that Giroux doesn't have some of those qualities, because he certainly does.
- MJL


Not sure how leadership and heart translate to an elctronic sports simulation.
Based on best season by each as a flyer i'd have to go with clarke(119pts), lindros(115), macleish(100), and brindamour(97).
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Sep 24 @ 2:20 PM ET
The possibility is there, but it's probably not likely. The last time the Flyers made an in-division trade was in the summer of 2010, when they flipped Dan Hamhuis' rights to the Pens.

The last player for player trade between the Flyers and another Atlantic division team was December of 2006. The Flyers traded Randy Robitaille & a pick to the Islanders for Mike York. Four days prior to that the same two teams swapped defensemen Alexei Zhitnik & Freddy Meyer.

The last significant "name" trade between the Flyers & another Atlantic team was in 2001. Eric Lindros was traded to the Rangers for Jan Hlavac, Pavel Brendl, Kim Johnsson and a 3rd rounder.

The last non-rights trade(i.e. player for player or picks) between the Flyers & Pens was Kevin Stevens to Pittsburgh for John Slaney, in January of 2001.

The last trade between the Flyers and Devils? Flyers traded a 3rd rounder for goalie Glenn "Chico" Resch on March 11th, 1986.

- Jsaquella

Didn't we flip Manderville to the Pens for the ex con after that or was that before? That may have even been the same season.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 24 @ 2:21 PM ET
Not sure how leadership and heart translate to an elctronic sports simulation.
Based on best season by each as a flyer i'd have to go with clarke(119pts), lindros(115), macleish(100), and brindamour(97).

- twotoekenn



My choices weren't made in terms of an electronic sports simulation.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Sep 24 @ 2:22 PM ET
I wish I was alive to watch flyers hockey of the 70s and mid to late 80s
- flyers4487


If you are a fan of music, it was better to have not lived through the 80's.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Sep 24 @ 2:22 PM ET
I think the goaltender vote is fairly clear cut.

1. Bernie
2. Hextall


- PLindbergh31


Hands down.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Sep 24 @ 2:23 PM ET
Clarke, Lindros, Brind'Amour, and Poulin for me.
- MJL


Clarke, Lindros, Giroux, Poulin were my votes
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Sep 24 @ 2:23 PM ET
I'll say it a little differently, other than the obvious players (letang, crosby, malkin, neal) that the Pens aren't trading, they have a bunch of crap that we don't want.
- Daman


They have quite a few young defensemen I'd have interest in. Simon Despres, Derrick Pouliot, Joe Morrow & Beau Bennett are all solid prospects, not to mention Olli Maatta.

I also wouldn't mind a guy like Matt Niskanen, either.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Sep 24 @ 2:25 PM ET
Didn't we flip Manderville to the Pens for the ex con after that or was that before? That may have even been the same season.
- mayorofangrytown


Yep...That was in 2002...I somehow skimmed past that one. One year and 2 months after the Slaney/Stevens deal, they traded Manderville for Tibbetts.
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