aren't we?
- EricEngels

There's nothing we can do about it.

aren't we?
- EricEngels

...

There's nothing we can do about it.
- Pecafan Fan

Burn down Molson industries!

aren't we?
- EricEngels

We're not in the room

There's nothing we can do about it.
- Pecafan Fan

I'll boycott the NHL until the end of the lockout.

Is that OK?

We don't want to see come December. We need to see over the next two weeks, if there's any hope of even starting by December.
- EricEngels

If the players bend, something may happen.

I don't see them bending with Mr. Fehr at the wheel.

We'll see, come December, IMO.

aren't we?
- EricEngels

Well, Ek can save the preds but...

I'll boycott the NHL until the end of the lockout.

Is that OK?
- _nay_

UN VRAI TORTIONNAIRE

I'll boycott the NHL until the end of the lockout.

Is that OK?
- _nay_

Gutsy.

Considering every 20 goal scorer is getting 6 mil a year now they better.
- AdamFrench

and who's giving out those contracts?

We may not directly be able to help in the negotiation process, but the collective opinion influences position. Do you think the NHL would rearrange their original proposal so quickly if we had zero influence?

agree. but the issue with the NHL is that the gap between the haves and have nots is just too big. and as long as that's the case, there will always be labour issues like this. and i don't see that changing because neither Bettman nor the players will ever acknowledge that 2-4 teams need to be eliminated/moved.
- DoubleDown

There are 3 teams that are far and above the rest and they are setting the pass of the cap, meanwhile the majority of the teams are growing at a steady growth rate, but because of those 3 teams the league revenue is grower faster then the rest of the league.

The players can keep their 57% if they let the Owners link the HRR growth rate to the majoirty of the league.

There's nothing we can do about it.
- Pecafan Fan

I'm in the process of cancelling my tickets. That's about all i can do.

I'm in the process of cancelling my tickets. That's about all i can do.
- Oilhab

Yup.

and who's giving out those contracts?
- TouenneTiiTree

the people who can more easily ride this thing out.

and who's giving out those contracts?
- TouenneTiiTree

Who's demanding them?

Who's demanding them?
- AdamFrench

Agents.

and who's giving out those contracts?
- TouenneTiiTree

If they don't, one of their competitors will.

We may not directly be able to help in the negotiation process, but the collective opinion influences position. Do you think the NHL would rearrange their original proposal so quickly if we had zero influence?
- EricEngels

You think the NHL is afraid of public opinion?

They proved they don't care by locking out the players for a full season not long ago. And won't hesitate to do the same again.

You think the NHL is afraid of public opinion?

They proved they don't care by locking out the players for a full season not long ago. And won't hesitate to do the same again.
- Pecafan Fan

Or again in another 5-6 years.

Who's demanding them?
- AdamFrench

no, you have it all wrong...

Let's say I score 20 goals, and I think I'm entitled to $6M...I can demand it...but I'll only get it if someone "agrees" with that assessment and gives it to me...if not I'm an unsigned FA...

it's that simple...

If you only knew
- Pecafan Fan

Or again in another 5-6 years.
- Oilhab

Pretty sure that for some owners, the lockout is a blessing. Some of them probably save a lot of money by locking out the players.

Double post.

You think the NHL is afraid of public opinion?

They proved they don't care by locking out the players for a full season not long ago. And won't hesitate to do the same again.
- Pecafan Fan

I never said they were afraid, and never argued anything contrary to that. but i wouldn't say we have zero influence.