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Jimmygrazz
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 04.23.2010

Sep 18 @ 10:45 AM ET
About now we should be talking about who is going to be the surprise to make the roster, who is not going to make it, How great G is going to play, How bad Bryz is, etc... But no, we are talking about how some players rented the ice to practice and how management are not allowed to go to a charity function. This league and it's players need to take a step back and look to see how bad it looks from our point of view. Such a (frank)ing shame...
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Sep 18 @ 11:05 AM ET
the only solace i take from all of this is watching the Preds sweat...
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Sep 18 @ 11:14 AM ET
YOU MISS 100 PERCENT OF THE SHOTS YOU NEVER TAKE. WAYNE GRETZKY
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Sep 18 @ 11:14 AM ET
Bill,

Not sure that Fridge is coaching with the Trenton Titans this year....

- puckhead7


He's still listed as an assistant coach on their website.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Sep 18 @ 11:19 AM ET
the only solace i take from all of this is watching the Preds sweat...
- isaiah520



Flyers_1488
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly , PA
Joined: 05.15.2012

Sep 18 @ 11:28 AM ET
the only solace i take from all of this is watching the Preds sweat...
- isaiah520



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aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Sep 18 @ 11:35 AM ET
YOU MISS 100 PERCENT OF THE SHOTS YOU NEVER TAKE. WAYNE GRETZKY
- phi1671

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 18 @ 11:51 AM ET
the only solace i take from all of this is watching the Preds sweat...
- isaiah520



I don't see any reason for any ill will towards Nashville.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Sep 18 @ 12:27 PM ET
let's see how you feel if and when your boss comes to you and says they will be taking back 10% of your pay effective immediately.
- JoeRussomanno


I'd feel pretty poopty...but I'd most likely be at work the next day.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Sep 18 @ 12:37 PM ET
I don't see any reason for any ill will towards Nashville.
- MJL

they made a calculation and now they have to live with it...
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 18 @ 12:40 PM ET
they made a calculation and now they have to live with it...
- isaiah520



They decided to match the offer and keep thier player. So why do we want to see them sweat? If the Preds do poorly, it's bad for them, other teams, the League, and the fans. It's in everyone's best interest that they and every other team prospers.
flyguy12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Columbus, OH
Joined: 10.22.2006

Sep 18 @ 12:47 PM ET
@BizNasty2point0 Fans. The players understand your frustration. But at the end of the day we are fighting for our futures, not yours. That's the reality.
- Don'tForgetTocchet


Biz Nasty should be concerned about his life after hockey, b/c clearly he's a complete (frank)ing moron.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Sep 18 @ 1:02 PM ET
There is a tough balance between small market teams, big market teams, and players.

One thing I haven't heard discussed is in the event of an unrestricted free agent, giving the old team some kind of compensation.

In other words, if Weber didn't sign an offer sheet but instead signed with the Flyers as an UFA next year, Nashville would still get 2 first round picks. They wouldn't come from the Flyers, but would just be added to the end of round 1 in years 1 and 2. It costs the Flyers nothing, but the "weaker" financial and competitive teams can remain somewhat competitive.

This is already done in the NFL to a lesser extent.

Innovative solutions are required, but none seem to be discussed.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Sep 18 @ 1:37 PM ET
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Sep 18 @ 1:37 PM ET
There is a tough balance between small market teams, big market teams, and players.

One thing I haven't heard discussed is in the event of an unrestricted free agent, giving the old team some kind of compensation.

In other words, if Weber didn't sign an offer sheet but instead signed with the Flyers as an UFA next year, Nashville would still get 2 first round picks. They wouldn't come from the Flyers, but would just be added to the end of round 1 in years 1 and 2. It costs the Flyers nothing, but the "weaker" financial and competitive teams can remain somewhat competitive.

This is already done in the NFL to a lesser extent.

Innovative solutions are required, but none seem to be discussed.

- Daman


I doubt anything other than money is really discussed until the two sides are close on the money issue
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Sep 18 @ 1:38 PM ET

- stveshdy


Is Jan.1 itself considered over or under?
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Sep 18 @ 1:38 PM ET
RIP Steve Sabol


Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Sep 18 @ 1:50 PM ET
I doubt anything other than money is really discussed until the two sides are close on the money issue
- eayost


My guess is that you are right. Which is why one would think that a solution that helps address the problems and costs no one any money should at least be discussed.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Sep 18 @ 1:50 PM ET
There is a tough balance between small market teams, big market teams, and players.

One thing I haven't heard discussed is in the event of an unrestricted free agent, giving the old team some kind of compensation.

In other words, if Weber didn't sign an offer sheet but instead signed with the Flyers as an UFA next year, Nashville would still get 2 first round picks. They wouldn't come from the Flyers, but would just be added to the end of round 1 in years 1 and 2. It costs the Flyers nothing, but the "weaker" financial and competitive teams can remain somewhat competitive.

This is already done in the NFL to a lesser extent.

Innovative solutions are required, but none seem to be discussed.

- Daman

It's an idea, although I'm not sure about creating draft picks for the end of a round. Ultimately, though, all other demands are merely considerations compared to the fight for HRR percent split.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Sep 18 @ 1:51 PM ET
RIP Steve Sabol


- tangent_man


Just curious bro, what is the origination of your handle?

Mine is pretty easy - not well liked, but pretty easy to understand.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 18 @ 2:57 PM ET
Good Read Bill


My 5yr ask me last night " Daddy When do the Flyers start playing again "??

I said "well it might be awhile " and he said " That makes me sad - I want to see them beat up the Pens " LMAO



- Flyers_1488



I'm hoping the lockout doesn't go past November and we get started, but am I the only one worried that some of our players that signed overseas might get hurt?
Flyers_1488
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly , PA
Joined: 05.15.2012

Sep 18 @ 3:16 PM ET
I'm hoping the lockout doesn't go past November and we get started, but am I the only one worried that some of our players that signed overseas might get hurt?
- Hextall271



Yeah I wonder about that too.... I guess Im also hopeful Pronger might make a come back
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Sep 18 @ 3:38 PM ET
Yeah I wonder about that too.... I guess Im also hopeful Pronger might make a come back
- Flyers_1488


If history is an indication of the future, all our d-men playing overseas will get hurt, and Pronger will not return.

Is it too late for me to learn to skate?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 18 @ 3:40 PM ET
There is a tough balance between small market teams, big market teams, and players.

One thing I haven't heard discussed is in the event of an unrestricted free agent, giving the old team some kind of compensation.

In other words, if Weber didn't sign an offer sheet but instead signed with the Flyers as an UFA next year, Nashville would still get 2 first round picks. They wouldn't come from the Flyers, but would just be added to the end of round 1 in years 1 and 2. It costs the Flyers nothing, but the "weaker" financial and competitive teams can remain somewhat competitive.

This is already done in the NFL to a lesser extent.

Innovative solutions are required, but none seem to be discussed.

- Daman

i hope this lockout drives nashville into bankruptcy weber should have been ours
Flyers_1488
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly , PA
Joined: 05.15.2012

Sep 18 @ 3:40 PM ET
If history is an indication of the future, all our d-men playing overseas will get hurt, and Pronger will not return.

Is it too late for me to learn to skate?

- Daman



Yeah you are Right... Just day dreaming and hoping.

Sure give it a chance!!
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