I am still only halfway through the first season, I got a lot of catching up to do
- TPC

Its a lot to follow but if you watch it on demand they have "inside the episode" at the end of each one, does a great job of connecting everything.

Season three has blown my mind so far, its crazy.

The one bright spot Nick is that we will have October open to go on a horror movie binge...best month of the year
- TPC

I'm going to Comic Con October 13th and seeing Primus in 3D live on October 19th...

October will be a good month!

I'm going to Comic Con October 13th and seeing Primus in 3D live on October 19th...

October will be a good month!
- evitageN

Nick, I went down to the Michigan/Alabama game in Dallas, and the hotel we stayed at had an Anime convention. It was the most bizarre thing I have ever seen. A bunch of football fans in the elevators with a bunch of people dressed up in full costumes, with crossbows, swords, sickles, et. Truly an interesting experience.

This league does not deserve the patronage of its fans. Plain and simple as far as I am concerned. We lost a whole less than a decade ago to get the CBA that was in place through the last hockey season, and now we are supposed to believe that such CBA was so fundamentally flawed that we need to miss significant portions (if not all) of another season to fix it. All this while teams have done everything in their power to find loopholes in the existing CBA to circumvent the very same salary cap that they fought so hard to achieve, and in many instance rushing to sign players prior to its expiration. Not only do such actions reek of hypocracy, but they are playing all of us fans for fools.

The fans will come back. They will buy our exorbantly priced jerseys. They will buy season tickets, and overpriced beer because they have no other option. That is indeed what the NHL thinks. They take their fans for granted, because they believe that they can.

So, I will say this, if this lockout kills another NHL season, I am officially done. I will go watch the OHL. I will watch college hockey. I will tell you guys what I think of Boo Nieves and other Rangers prospects. But, the NHL will be dead to me, because I am too damned old and jaded to watch a bunch of idiots destroying a great game and product by engaging in the type of gross negligence that they are now. I will even put a damn electrical zapper on my T.V. that will shoot bolts of electricity through me if I even try to turn on an NHL game.
- Pete V

Remember 8 years ago we were promised cost certainty and lower ticket prices as a result of the lockout? They're not promising anything now - not to us fans anyway.

I can understand the owners' side - to a certain degree. The cost of running a team has greatly increased, from player contracts to hotel costs, fuel costs to fly the team all over, etc. So I can see how reducing player salaries would help that. But the one thing I don't understand is that aside from that, the owners haven't provided any other means to help the struggling franchises. So in 5-7 years we will be right back here again. It's unfathomable how narrow-minded and sort-sighted they are.

It's really not them against the players, it's them against the other owners. It really makes you wonder how they made it in the business world in the first place.

Remember 8 years ago we were promised cost certainty and lower ticket prices as a result of the lockout? They're not promising anything now - not to us fans anyway.

I can understand the owners' side - to a certain degree. The cost of running a team has greatly increased, from player contracts to hotel costs, fuel costs to fly the team all over, etc. So I can see how reducing player salaries would help that. But the one thing I don't understand is that aside from that, the owners haven't provided any other means to help the struggling franchises. So in 5-7 years we will be right back here again. It's unfathomable how narrow-minded and sort-sighted they are.

It's really not them against the players, it's them against the other owners. It really makes you wonder how they made it in the business world in the first place.
- TheMessiah94

That's the problem. Sports is a unique business where you actually have direct competitors that you try to beat but then you are part of a collective too so the health and viability of your competitors is also a concern. In the real business world these guys would be trying to run their competition out of business but not in sports. It must be strange for some of them and even anti-intuitive.

Nick, I went down to the Michigan/Alabama game in Dallas, and the hotel we stayed at had an Anime convention. It was the most bizarre thing I have ever seen. A bunch of football fans in the elevators with a bunch of people dressed up in full costumes, with crossbows, swords, sickles, et. Truly an interesting experience.
- Pete V

Sounds awesome -- I've never been to comic con, not a die hard, but plan to see what they have to offer!

Anime is straight up nuts, those fans are legit obsessed!

How's lockout hell treating you all?

still cant believe gainey traded him for gomez...
- Jaciems

It was like Milbury possesed him for a minute. One of the absolute worse trades ever. Also saving Sathers ass with the Gomez contract in the process. Wow

Cant believe this is really happening again.... what flipping joke. I could give two poopoo's about who is right. Just drop the puck and figure it out later.

Not sure if you guys would be interested but the Whale open up the season on Oct.12 agianst the soundtigers. Tickets are cheap, 12 dollars for the upper level and 45 for ice level. Gonna treat myself, i wanna see Miller, Yogan, Thomas, and Bourque.

Mainly Miller though.

How's lockout hell treating you all?
- airjan23

I'm so slammed at work, and so committed to working out 5 days a week, that I suddenly find myself not as mad as I was. It'll be hard to fit it in when it comes back. I just wish they'd say yes, we're back, or see you in 2013 so I could plan.

ETA: Or get all my money back.

I'm so slammed at work, and so committed to working out 5 days a week, that I suddenly find myself not as mad as I was. It'll be hard to fit it in when it comes back. I just wish they'd say yes, we're back, or see you in 2013 so I could plan.

ETA: Or get all my money back.
- bodiva88

I don't know about that, I hear Ed Snyder's grandson wants a new Mercedes SL350. I think that's were your money is ticketed.

Rick Nash with a hattrick in the 1st period of his 1st game. Wish his talent was being utilized at MSG.

Rick Nash with a hattrick in the 1st period of his 1st game. Wish his talent was being utilized at MSG.
- Mtlca66

Nope, instead the Rangers are going to miss 1 of his prime years...he will be 29 by the time he actually suits up for the Rangers

Rick Nash with a hattrick in the 1st period of his 1st game. Wish his talent was being utilized at MSG.
- Mtlca66

You cant make this poop up.

I don't know about that, I hear Ed Snyder's grandson wants a new Mercedes SL350. I think that's were your money is ticketed.
- OLDSCHOOL#6

Oh, I can get my money back. I'm pretty sure a threat about broken contract (they contracted with me to provide hockey for the money they have) and the State Atty Genl would get me a refund and canceled STH. And Ed is not the owner of the Flyers. Comcast Corporation is.

Oh, I can get my money back. I'm pretty sure a threat about broken contract (they contracted with me to provide hockey for the money they have) and the State Atty Genl would get me a refund and canceled STH. And Ed is not the owner of the Flyers. Comcast Corporation is.
- bodiva88

So, Ed has nothing to do with the Flyers?

Oh, I can get my money back. I'm pretty sure a threat about broken contract (they contracted with me to provide hockey for the money they have) and the State Atty Genl would get me a refund and canceled STH. And Ed is not the owner of the Flyers. Comcast Corporation is.
- bodiva88

If I understand correctly, some clubs are merely offering credits for games lost with a small percentage tacked on top of that. I wonder if the fine print in your season ticket agreement contains language allowing the Flyers to do the same rather than refunding your entire expenditure.

If I understand correctly, some clubs are merely offering credits for games lost with a small percentage tacked on top of that. I wonder if the fine print in your season ticket agreement contains language allowing the Flyers to do the same rather than refunding your entire expenditure.
- gkmkiller

My boss at work is a Flyers season ticket holder and I believe I remember her saying she can either get back the full refund or take the credit on the games lost with interest.

My boss at work is a Flyers season ticket holder and I believe I remember her saying she can either get back the full refund or take the credit on the games lost with interest.
- TPC

Like I said, I could be wrong and maybe the Flyers do it differently than other teams. I know each team is allowed to dictate its own policy. I haven't read specifically that people can cancel their plan and get a full refund but I know I would be pissed if I was a season ticket holder unable to get a full cash refund.

MarcelKuchta@Guggti
Back home after long trip from Davos. Quote of the night comes from Davos-Coach Arno Del Curto: "Rick Nash is the Lionel Messi of hockey"

Rick Nash with a hattrick in the 1st period of his 1st game. Wish his talent was being utilized at MSG.
- Mtlca66

I'm just about done with this (frank)ing league. Greedy bastards

I'm just about done with this (frank)ing league. Greedy bastards
- bonzo11

I want to be to, but I know once it comes back I will be going crazy for the Rangers again. This is why there is a lockout, the true fans will always come back

MarcelKuchta@Guggti
Back home after long trip from Davos. Quote of the night comes from Davos-Coach Arno Del Curto: "Rick Nash is the Lionel Messi of hockey"
- TPC

(frank)! This just makes me more mad.

I met hakeem nicks today though

I want to be to, but I know once it comes back I will be going crazy for the Rangers again. This is why there is a lockout, the true fans will always come back

- TPC

Agreed. I love the rangers but I can't deal with this lockout poop anymore. I've given this league enough of my cash. I'm sticking to junior hockey. (frank) bettman and the owners