Both teams could have walked away and accepted the various draft picks as compensation. Nobody forced them to matched. And i sure a poop don't want to hear Nashvile cry because they are in financial trouble. They chose to match end of story.
- blacksheep1

The team is in financial trouble doesn't mean the owner/ownership are. They matched the deal because they believe their team will suffer without that player and will lose even more money for 4 year until they are good again.

NHLPA wants More Time to Process the NHL's latest offer. Sides will meet again tomorrow pm.. Actually better news than expected.

NHLPA wants More Time to Process the NHL's latest offer. Sides will meet again tomorrow pm.. Actually better news than expected.
- Eklund

so the NHL presented another proposal to the players.

Next step is Donald Fehr presenting it to the players, and then, the NHLPA taking 5 weeks to do a "completely different" counter proposal.

yeah, I'm not holding my breath.

The fact that both sides met in the morning, took a break, reconvened and are planning on meeting tomorrow has to be taken as a positive...

It means that there has been is meaningful dialogue that BOTH sides wish to continue!

The fact that both sides met in the morning, took a break, reconvened and are planning on meeting tomorrow has to be taken as a positive...

It means that there has been is meaningful dialogue that BOTH sides wish to continue!
- As_I_See_It

This

The team is in financial trouble doesn't mean the owner/ownership are. They matched the deal because they believe their team will suffer without that player and will lose even more money for 4 year until they are good again.
- HipHopisDead

Remember this. Unless Revenue sharing is put in place(not a fan of the idea BTW) Nashville will ending losing money whether they make the playoffs or not. If small market teams wanna spend then they have to live with the consequences.

I was stating that it most likely would never happen but if it did, all decisions would then be made by the board of governors (owners) who would in essence own every team. So the board would then care about the league making or losing in all markets. It would be a corporate partnership and would be run much like the UFC.
- stevecarpetman

BTW, your idea is vaguely like what Bain Capital proposed in 2006. Just throw in "leverage everything up to the hilt and suck out all the profits" and you've probably got it on the nose.

NHLPA wants More Time to Process the NHL's latest offer. Sides will meet again tomorrow pm.. Actually better news than expected.
- Eklund

How is it better than expected if you have no idea what they talked about. It could very easily go like this: Meet in AM for 45, NHL gives new proposal. Fehr brothers look at it, roll their eyes, and say, lets talk to the guys. Come back to the table, tell NHL they need more time. They go ahead and digest new proposal tonight and tomorrow and realize not much change. Tomorrow afternoon they tell NHL to f- off. Hmmm....yeah, better than expected

Both teams could have walked away and accepted the various draft picks as compensation. Nobody forced them to matched. And i sure a poop don't want to hear Nashvile cry because they are in financial trouble. They chose to match end of story.
- blacksheep1

You're right, they could have. However, they had the ability to choose to match - and they did so. Clearly, they thought the long-term benefit to the franchise of matching outweighed the short-term pain of losing the targeted player and getting draft picks [who weren't going to be ready for the NHL for 2-4 years] instead.

BTW, Buffalo probably still isn't a good example, since they have an owner willing and ready to lose millions upon millions to help the team win a Cup.

Remember this. Unless Revenue sharing is put in place(not a fan of the idea BTW) Nashville will ending losing money whether they make the playoffs or not. If small market teams wanna spend then they have to live with the consequences.
- blacksheep1

So your solution is .... what exactly?

UPDATE 4:47 pm

A source has informed me the NHL Made "Significant" compromises in their latest offer and the NHLPA was "more than a bit surprised by the offer." Will it be enough? No one is going that far yet...

UPDATE 4:47 pm

A source has informed me the NHL Made "Significant" compromises in their latest offer and the NHLPA was "more than a bit surprised by the offer." Will it be enough? No one is going that far yet...
- Eklund

Wicked!

NHLPA wants More Time to Process the NHL's latest offer. Sides will meet again tomorrow pm.. Actually better news than expected.
- Eklund

not news at all.

UPDATE 4:47 pm

A source has informed me the NHL Made "Significant" compromises in their latest offer and the NHLPA was "more than a bit surprised by the offer." Will it be enough? No one is going that far yet...
- Eklund

This is the kind of news that causes a stirring in my loins.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/

i bet
- Fountain-San

UPDATE 5:15

this texted to me: "The PA surprised NHL worked off PA's counter proposal on some key elements. The NHL ALWAYS prefers to frame the debate."

Of course they made "significant" compromises. Their initial offer was such a huge joke that anything after that would seem great.

UPDATE 5:15

this texted to me: "The PA surprised NHL worked off PA's counter proposal on some key elements. The NHL ALWAYS prefers to frame the debate."
- Eklund

I like turtles

I like turtles
- glove_was_stuck

rah rah rah

*UPDATE: 5:35PM*

Spaghetti and Meatballs for dinner.

Somewhere Credibility is laughing, pointing and mocking.

UPDATE 5:15

this texted to me: "The PA surprised NHL worked off PA's counter proposal on some key elements. The NHL ALWAYS prefers to frame the debate."
- Eklund

when did this become "contract buzz" ? Who cares. Let us know when it's done. Can we go back to talking about ice and steel, rubber and nylon?

You're right, they could have. However, they had the ability to choose to match - and they did so. Clearly, they thought the long-term benefit to the franchise of matching outweighed the short-term pain of losing the targeted player and getting draft picks
- Irish Blues[who weren't going to be ready for the NHL for 2-4 years] instead.

BTW, Buffalo probably still isn't a good example, since they have an owner willing and ready to lose millions upon millions to help the team win a Cup.


So your solution is .... what exactly?

Solution for Nashville, don't match for Weber. Then you wont have to pay Shea the 26 million owed to him in one calender year.

rah rah rah
- iLive4theLeafs

fap fap fap

Solution for Nashville, don't match for Weber. Then you wont have to pay Shea the 26 million owed to him in one calender year.
- blacksheep1

So in other words, if a high-revenue team can get really creative with offer sheets so as to make it impossible for low-revenue teams to match with the resources they have [... and not need any assistance from any other team to do it], then have at it - and if low-revenue teams get turned into glorified feeder teams for the few that have nearly unlimited resources, that's OK.

Let's stick to reality, instead of pie-in-the-sky notions. Let's also frame this in a more general context that's applicable to all low-revenue teams, instead of having some obsessive fixation on what Nashville did.

Solution for Nashville, don't match for Weber. Then you wont have to pay Shea the 26 million owed to him in one calender year.
- blacksheep1

Why do you care so much what Nashville does??It's not your damn money!!