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robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Aug 28 @ 1:09 PM ET
Wait you mean he was lying when he said he would have taken Reilly #1 overall?
- wolfos412



Of course he would have!


t_leafs21
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Nylander - Matthews - Marner, forever, ON
Joined: 07.26.2010

Aug 28 @ 1:10 PM ET
I may be reading this wrong, but Frattin is 24 years old, and has 2 years of NHL experience, meaning he would have to clear waivers to go to the Marlies.
- Atomic Wedgie



Yeah thats why I originally thought he wasn't waiver eligible. but, im not sure if it's 2 years experience and 60 games played. Even then, he's only 3 games away anyway
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 28 @ 1:11 PM ET
Yeah, Connolly had some points playing with those guys. He could get another shot for sure.
But then, what to do with Bozak? 4th line centre?

MacArthur-Bozak-Kulemin 3rd line

Steckel-McClement-Brown 4th line?

- t_leafs21

We already have 9 3rd/4th line centres.

One will have to be traded/scuttled/disappeared/Marlie'd.

I was pretty impressed with Steckel for the first 10 games or so (maybe 20? Can't remember). But after he got his finger injury, he was just awful - it baffled me that they kept him in the lineup instead of letting it heal properly.

But with McClement coming in, I'd say Steckel and/or Bozak is expendable.

Which is good, because the Leafs need some new tape.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Aug 28 @ 1:12 PM ET
I may be reading this wrong, but Frattin is 24 years old, and has 2 years of NHL experience, meaning he would have to clear waivers to go to the Marlies.
- Atomic Wedgie


he only has 57 games of NHL experience.. he still has 3 games before he is no longer waiver exempt
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 28 @ 1:15 PM ET
Yeah thats why I originally thought he wasn't waiver eligible. but, im not sure if it's 2 years experience and 60 games played. Even then, he's only 3 games away anyway
- t_leafs21

OK, just looked it up - for players over the age of 20, AHL games (regular season and playoffs) count.

Frattin can't go down without waivers.

http://www.pensionplanpup...rs-101-a-guide-to-the-nhl
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 28 @ 1:15 PM ET
he only has 57 games of NHL experience.. he still has 3 games before he is no longer waiver exempt
- Dozzer

Nope.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 28 @ 1:17 PM ET
he only has 57 games of NHL experience.. he still has 3 games before he is no longer waiver exempt
- Dozzer

According to the guide I cited, it's also a matter of whenever you meet either threshold.

Not that it matters - Frattin has reached both thresholds.

He ain't no Marlie no more.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Aug 28 @ 1:20 PM ET
OK, just looked it up - for players over the age of 20, AHL games (regular season and playoffs) count.

Frattin can't go down without waivers.

http://www.pensionplanpup...rs-101-a-guide-to-the-nhl

- Atomic Wedgie


AHL games count?

thats just stupid.. that means kadri isnt waiver exempt either
LEEROYJENKINS
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 08.09.2012

Aug 28 @ 1:22 PM ET
AHL games count?

thats just stupid.. that means kadri isnt waiver exempt either

- Dozzer


Kadri is still entry level, so he is two way? Is that not exempt from waivers?
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 28 @ 1:25 PM ET
Kadri is still entry level, so he is two way? Is that not exempt from waivers?
- LEEROYJENKINS

Two-way contracts have absolutely nothing to do with waivers.

It merely determines how much salary you get in the NHL and the AHL.
LEEROYJENKINS
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 08.09.2012

Aug 28 @ 1:27 PM ET
Two-way contracts have absolutely nothing to do with waivers.

It merely determines how much salary you get in the NHL and the AHL.

- Atomic Wedgie


Yes, but I thought the two way contracts didn't have to clear waivers, it was only the one way contracts. I wasn't aware of this time limit in games played over 20.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 28 @ 1:28 PM ET
Weird question for all:

Kadri played one game with the Leafs in 2009-10 - without a contract.

How did the Leafs accomplish that one?
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 28 @ 1:31 PM ET
Yes, but I thought the two way contracts didn't have to clear waivers, it was only the one way contracts. I wasn't aware of this time limit in games played over 20.
- LEEROYJENKINS

Incorrect.

But don't beat yourself up too bad - it seems like half of NHL fans believe this.

And Phil Collins never invited the guy who witnessed his best friend drowning to a show, and sang "In the Air Tonight" to him, and then the guy committed suicide.
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Aug 28 @ 1:32 PM ET
Weird question for all:

Kadri played one game with the Leafs in 2009-10 - without a contract.

How did the Leafs accomplish that one?

- Atomic Wedgie

Wasn't he playing for the knigts still and it was an emergency call up?
LEEROYJENKINS
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 08.09.2012

Aug 28 @ 1:32 PM ET
Weird question for all:

Kadri played one game with the Leafs in 2009-10 - without a contract.

How did the Leafs accomplish that one?

- Atomic Wedgie


Part way down the page
http://wewantacup.com/owe...816-what-is-it-with-kadri
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 28 @ 1:34 PM ET
Yes, but I thought the two way contracts didn't have to clear waivers, it was only the one way contracts. I wasn't aware of this time limit in games played over 20.
- LEEROYJENKINS

This is probably the best resource for explaining waivers:

http://www.pensionplanpup...rs-101-a-guide-to-the-nhl

Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 28 @ 1:34 PM ET
Wasn't he playing for the knigts still and it was an emergency call up?
- bryant

Yes, that's what it appears.

Thanks
LEEROYJENKINS
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 08.09.2012

Aug 28 @ 1:34 PM ET
Incorrect.

But don't beat yourself up too bad - it seems like half of NHL fans believe this.

And Phil Collins never invited the guy who witnessed his best friend drowning to a show, and sang "In the Air Tonight" to him, and then the guy committed suicide.

- Atomic Wedgie



I got so angry because my girlfriend's dad was trying to say that was all a true story, when in reality it was Phil just freestyling over a drum beatbox when he was extremely angry about his divorce.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Aug 28 @ 1:36 PM ET


the kid in the background is making my entire day
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 28 @ 1:40 PM ET


the kid in the background is making my entire day

- Dozzer

And the saddest part? You can't say the kid learned it at the trailer park - he's sitting in $1,000 seats.

But it does raise an interesting question - why do Americans get so upset about someone "flipping the bird?" I mean, they go so far as to blur it on that Aerosmith video, just to name one example.

It's OK to have people killing each other on prime time TV, but no rude finger gestures, OK? That would corrupt our children forever.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Aug 28 @ 1:43 PM ET
And the saddest part? You can't say the kid learned it at the trailer park - he's sitting in $1,000 seats.

But it does raise an interesting question - why do Americans get so upset about someone "flipping the bird?" I mean, they go so far as to blur it on that Aerosmith video, just to name one example.

It's OK to have people killing each other on prime time TV, but no rude finger gestures, OK? That would corrupt our children forever.

- Atomic Wedgie


thats just silly.

american values just dont add up when you really look at them.. hell.. lets stretch it out to north american values.. cause i am sure there are canucks with their minds turned off as well
LEEROYJENKINS
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 08.09.2012

Aug 28 @ 1:46 PM ET
thats just silly.

american values just dont add up when you really look at them.. hell.. lets stretch it out to north american values.. cause i am sure there are canucks with their minds turned off as well

- Dozzer


Do you get some sort of bonus for being a referee besides the utmost satisfaction of the ban hammer?
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Aug 28 @ 1:49 PM ET
Do you get some sort of bonus for being a referee besides the utmost satisfaction of the ban hammer?
- LEEROYJENKINS


they give me a season ticket and access to a couple different things I wouldnt have otherwise (mod board for example)

but other than that.. nothing

the bloggers get paid.. but they deserve it, they actually do work
ILoveLamp
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.01.2011

Aug 28 @ 1:57 PM ET
Still think the opening lineup will be

Lupul - JVR - Kessel
Kadri - Grabo - MacArthur
Kulemin - Bozak - Frattin
Steckel - McClement - Brown

odd ones in and out will be Connolly, Lombardi, Komarov

Line 1 - Pure offence. JVR will be fine at centre. The three will have the offensive weapons to hem people in. People will question their defensive capabilities, but at the same time, JVR is more talented than Bozak, and we went a season with Bozak at -28.

Line 2 - Kadri will play with Grabo and Mac for two reasons
1. Grabo is defensively responsible and will help Kadri with that portion of his game
2. Kadri has great hands and can pass, setting up Grabo and Mac for goals

Line 3 - Kule and Frattin are great third line guys. Frattin shouldn't be on the second line. He just doesn't have the offensive talent for it. What Frattin can do is throw the body, and chip in with some scoring now and then. Real liability is Bozak, is he capable of handling third line duties? If not, he'll be swapped out for Connolly.

4th line is a grinder line. Komarov and Lombardi will be thrown in when there are injuries, or when the line has a bad game.

LEEROYJENKINS
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 08.09.2012

Aug 28 @ 1:59 PM ET
they give me a season ticket and access to a couple different things I wouldnt have otherwise (mod board for example)

but other than that.. nothing

the bloggers get paid.. but they deserve it, they actually do work

- Dozzer



While you are here all day keeping those lemmings in check.

I am guessing the bloggers actually don't get paid too much (depending on hits % I suppose). I am also guessing no one will give a figure
Curiousity killed the cat, unfortunately...
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