So how the (frank) is Fowler a 77 in NHL 13 and Sbisa an 84?
- Jack-artist

Theyre roles are diff. Sbisa is more of a 2way dman and Fowler is just a Odman. There for theyre overall's are diff. They arent rated just on being defenseman. Plus its EA. How is Hamhuis rated so high.

Theyre roles are diff. Sbisa is more of a 2way dman and Fowler is just a Odman. There for theyre overall's are diff. They arent rated just on being defenseman. Plus its EA. How is Hamhuis rated so high.
- poisondhearts37

Well thats pretty much it. Hamhuis is pretty good, but not 88 obviously. Thing is Fowler played a shutdown role this year while Sbisa was sheltered, so Fowler played what they think Sbisa's role was and vice versa.

I was surprised to see Etem below Rakell. Etem's points and goals totals in the WHL are impressive compared to Rakell's decent, but unspectacular, totals of just over a point-per-game. Is Etem's consistency that big of a concern? It seems like an off night for him is still better than an on night for many other players.

Also, getting drafted with the last pick in the 1st round (like Rakell) seems a bit ominous. From 2008 and earlier, the list is not a glamorous one:

2008 - Thomas McCollum - one more ECHL shellacking away from being officially a bust.
2007 - Nick Ross - Also working his way in the wrong direction, towards an ECHL career, not an NHL one.
2006 - Matt Corrente - Losing ground to other Devils prospects, and looking like an injury-prone tough guy
2005 - Vladimir Mihalik - Seems unlikely to return from Europe after failing to attain Hal Gill status.
2004 - Andy Rogers - Released from a PTO by the Marlies...
2003 - Shawn Belle - Never could stick with an NHL team, playing in Germany.
2002 - Jim Slater - Actually, I like this guy, but he's probably not what the Ducks are hoping for in Rakell

Ah I waited only 1 year, the longer it takes the more they don't shut up about it, so I said might as well get it over with.


-Palamino has more upside? Is that because he is more than 1 dimensional and Etem is just a Skate fast/ Score goal, kinda guy?
- wolfos412

Liz's decision -- she's still in school. So we're waiting for that to end so we're not putting her under stress in her first year of marriage. Works for me. More time to save.

In regards to Palmierei -- 33 goals in the AHL as a rookie is why I have him so high. The guy can skate, agitate, score like nobody's business, and is a fairly complete player. We can revisit this next year if Etem's game translates well to the AHL.

I was surprised to see Etem below Rakell. Etem's points and goals totals in the WHL are impressive compared to Rakell's decent, but unspectacular, totals of just over a point-per-game. Is Etem's consistency that big of a concern? It seems like an off night for him is still better than an on night for many other players.

Also, getting drafted with the last pick in the 1st round (like Rakell) seems a bit ominous. From 2008 and earlier, the list is not a glamorous one:
- Def_of_a_Joke

Hard to explain-- just what I saw of Rakell this year impressed the HELL out of me. Seems like he's gonna be a guy who just translates so well to the NHL.

Well thats pretty much it. Hamhuis is pretty good, but not 88 obviously. Thing is Fowler played a shutdown role this year while Sbisa was sheltered, so Fowler played what they think Sbisa's role was and vice versa.
- Jack-artist

Well for me being in SoCal and watching all the Kings and Ducks games. Fowler was used in many aspects. Hes still just a Offensive Dman. Sbisa is better than him at being physical and not being a liability. Sbisa shoots the puck well. He also moves the puck well. Hes coming along well in his development. Im sure EA has Fowler as a Odman. And that is why his overall is lower than say Sbisa.

I was surprised to see Etem below Rakell. Etem's points and goals totals in the WHL are impressive compared to Rakell's decent, but unspectacular, totals of just over a point-per-game. Is Etem's consistency that big of a concern? It seems like an off night for him is still better than an on night for many other players.

Also, getting drafted with the last pick in the 1st round (like Rakell) seems a bit ominous. From 2008 and earlier, the list is not a glamorous one:

2008 - Thomas McCollum - one more ECHL shellacking away from being officially a bust.
2007 - Nick Ross - Also working his way in the wrong direction, towards an ECHL career, not an NHL one.
2006 - Matt Corrente - Losing ground to other Devils prospects, and looking like an injury-prone tough guy
2005 - Vladimir Mihalik - Seems unlikely to return from Europe after failing to attain Hal Gill status.
2004 - Andy Rogers - Released from a PTO by the Marlies...
2003 - Shawn Belle - Never could stick with an NHL team, playing in Germany.
2002 - Jim Slater - Actually, I like this guy, but he's probably not what the Ducks are hoping for in Rakell
- Def_of_a_Joke

Rakell brings other intangibles to the table compared to Etem IMO. He isnt the 2nd coming of Bobby Ryan like someone implied. Perhaps it was you. When you get solid 2way forwards who can do it all. Thats what wins you championships. Teams wants Bergeron's over Kessel's.

I was surprised to see Etem below Rakell. Etem's points and goals totals in the WHL are impressive compared to Rakell's decent, but unspectacular, totals of just over a point-per-game. Is Etem's consistency that big of a concern? It seems like an off night for him is still better than an on night for many other players.

Also, getting drafted with the last pick in the 1st round (like Rakell) seems a bit ominous. From 2008 and earlier, the list is not a glamorous one:

2008 - Thomas McCollum - one more ECHL shellacking away from being officially a bust.
2007 - Nick Ross - Also working his way in the wrong direction, towards an ECHL career, not an NHL one.
2006 - Matt Corrente - Losing ground to other Devils prospects, and looking like an injury-prone tough guy
2005 - Vladimir Mihalik - Seems unlikely to return from Europe after failing to attain Hal Gill status.
2004 - Andy Rogers - Released from a PTO by the Marlies...
2003 - Shawn Belle - Never could stick with an NHL team, playing in Germany.
2002 - Jim Slater - Actually, I like this guy, but he's probably not what the Ducks are hoping for in Rakell
- Def_of_a_Joke

Corrente doesn't have the body to play the game he wants to, and he's been injury prone. If he had the size of a guy like Dion Phaneuf, he would've been a good physical defender with a good first pass, unfortunuately, he's only six foot, and he's been injury prone to boot.

I actually really liked Corrente though.

Couple of gems there in Palmieri and Etem. I'd be happy to have any players coming up that are comparable to Marchand. Sure, he's a %$#@, but any team can use that type of player---stirs the pot all season long, getting under peoples' skin, and still checks in with 28 goals. Etem impressed at world juniors, and had 61 goals during the season. Hopefully he continues to put the puck in the net for the Ducks.

I thought Friberg would be slotted higher than Rackell. Wasn't Friberg the leading scorer in the world juniors? Anyways, good read and comforting to see that Ducks have a bright future

Patrick Maroon, you think he's still a prospect B-Huds? Guys put up some big numbers, has NHL size and good hands. Thoughts?

Patrick Maroon, you think he's still a prospect B-Huds? Guys put up some big numbers, has NHL size and good hands. Thoughts?
- mykokes

He's a prospect -- skating is slow though, and he has limited hockey sense. Good hands and physical game though, and was one of the best in the AHL.

Could be a sleeper.

decent list but Friberg at 10? Come on man

EVEN IF THE LEAFS DON'T SIGN SCHULTZ, IT'S ALL TAMPERING.....

IF HIS COLLEGE BUDDY HAS A BEER AND MENTIONS THE LEAFS? TAMPERING.

IF A FAN IN THE STANDS HOLDS UP A SIGN THAT SAYS "TORONTO LOVES YOU JS" THAT'S 3RD DEGREE TAMPERING.

The Oilers signed him..... EVEN WORSE!!!!! BURKE TAMPERED.
- prock

Need a hug?

decent list but Friberg at 10? Come on man
- IanEsplen

I don't think much of him. Showed some FLASHES of scoring touch this year, but was very underwhelmed with him the rest of the time, while everyone else was singing his praises.

He's a prospect -- skating is slow though, and he has limited hockey sense. Good hands and physical game though, and was one of the best in the AHL.

Could be a sleeper.
- Brian Huddle

I agree on him being slow and a bad skater but I dont know how you can say he has limited hockey sense when he was in the top 10 in the AHL in scoring, and led Syracuse in points.

I agree on him being slow and a bad skater but I dont know how you can say he has limited hockey sense when he was in the top 10 in the AHL in scoring, and led Syracuse in points.
- bhawks86

He's got pretty good hockey sense in my opinion, yet that does go out the window at the NHL level I think where he's forced to play a different game because of his mobility issues. Though, he hasn't really had a shot at the NHL level either so it's hard to gage. That said, he really does have nice hands, a few years back he really stood out in preseason for the Flyers (moreso than Giroux and JVR at that time)....but it was his first year out of junior. And it's also a shame that his audition last year with Getzlaf and Perry came at a time when the two of them were completely lost out there. I think Maroon can make it, and there were a few times last season he was on waivers that I thought it would've made sense for the Leafs to claim him and try him out, especially when Kulemin was struggling to find his game. Though a counter to him being top 10 in scoring, many of those points came with Palmieri, and not saying Palmieri was responsible solely, the two of them had some great chemistry together.

I don't think much of him. Showed some FLASHES of scoring touch this year, but was very underwhelmed with him the rest of the time, while everyone else was singing his praises.
- Brian Huddle

Translated: He had a great World Junior tourney where he potted a lot of goals, but he didn't stand out in league play.

Translated: He had a great World Junior tourney where he potted a lot of goals, but he didn't stand out in league play.
- mykokes

Bingo.

Bingo.
- Brian Huddle

If he makes it, he'll have to pattern his game like Hornqvist's.