I would like to hear this from one other source as I think this could very well be just fodder for internet discussion on a mid-week august afternoon.




- Beatle_john

precisely

Horrible idea to reward failure. Best way to decide draft order would be give first pick to team that just missed playoffs so there wouldn't be tanking and game would remain better to the end so.
17:1st
18:2nd
19:3th
and then
16:15th
15:16th
and so on
That way being at least competetive would be the goal not being like pens, oilers, islanders were.

That would be a great idea.

In Syria.
- Atomic Wedgie

So why are the players allowed to get away with this kind of BS, while GMs, Coaches and Owners can't say anything to players under contract?

The players demanding trade through the media are also under contract and are attempting to influence and manipulate the situation.

The team forced to trade these types of players RARELY comes out ahead because the player has essentially devalued himself.

It's basically tampering.

That proposal is total insanity!! I can see it being arbitrarily being used to boast the stability of struggling franchises like Florida or Phoenix by giving them the next Crosby or Stamkos, but if an equally bad team was in a big market like Philadelphia or Toronto, they would not garner such generosity.
- mikeinbuffalo

Couldnt have said it better sir. There's no doubt that the idea is intriguing at first glance, but if you use ANY sence of thought whatsoever on it you realize just how unfair it is to the big market teams that are struggling like Toronto and (it pains me to be sticking up for them) Montreal. The draft system is perfect the way it is.

Couldnt have said it better sir. There's no doubt that the idea is intriguing at first glance, but if you use ANY sence of thought whatsoever on it you realize just how unfair it is to the big market teams that are struggling like Toronto and (it pains me to be sticking up for them) Montreal. The draft system is perfect the way it is.
- HitterMage99

And what happens after a few years when these first overall "elite talents" demand mega contracts from these so-called "struggling teams" who are apparently/supposedly strapped for cash?

Horrible idea to reward failure. Best way to decide draft order would be give first pick to team that just missed playoffs so there wouldn't be tanking and game would remain better to the end so.
17:1st
18:2nd
19:3th
and then
16:15th
15:16th
and so on
That way being at least competetive would be the goal not being like pens, oilers, islanders were.
- Feppo

Then teams that actually suck would be pretty much (frank)ed

I thought this policy was already in place vis a vis Edmonton!?
- 1979AD

I call bullpoop. Your clueless eklund. That makes absolutely ZERO sense

Then teams that actually suck would be pretty much (frank)ed
- FinAddict

Or they would have to improve their organisations other ways like improving scouting and not signing bad UFA contracts or making bad trades plus top 15 pick for last placed team is still decent. Why I like my system is that I dislike the way Oilers have just ignored the goal of being competetive and just sucked so they can get better easier way.

This proposal might actually work with one little tweak; the team with the 1st overall pick has to let Pierre Maguire make the pick.

That would eliminate any advantage of having the #1 pick.
- TripperTom

It can't be.

That's the point.

And further, Wang has absolutely no interest in being a tenant in another building.

His hold purpose of owning the Islanders is to use them as an anchor for a giant real estate development, since he can use public funds.

Moving to Brooklyn doesn't help him. At least not moving to a building in Brooklyn that he doesn't own.
- Atomic Wedgie

I'm sure it's nothing a few million dollars can't fix.

Wang would either be bought out or co owner!!!

And this makes for some interesting reading:

http://noticingnewyork.bl...d-how-craftily-close.html
- Atomic Wedgie

cheers!!

shouldnt the test be how he surrounds these draft picks? which, up until this point, has been with piles of poop?
- DoubleDown

Nice avatar

And what happens after a few years when these first overall "elite talents" demand mega contracts from these so-called "struggling teams" who are apparently/supposedly strapped for cash?
- As_I_See_It

The small market teams with them elite talents tend to grow their markets enough with the addition of that elite player to be able to make the big time contract for the guy like crosby, stamkos, or ovechkin work.

Horrible idea to reward failure. Best way to decide draft order would be give first pick to team that just missed playoffs so there wouldn't be tanking and game would remain better to the end so.
17:1st
18:2nd
19:3th
and then
16:15th
15:16th
and so on
That way being at least competetive would be the goal not being like pens, oilers, islanders were.
- Feppo

No team purposely tanks, no matter what the conspiracy theorists think.

No team purposely tanks, no matter what the conspiracy theorists think.
- Oilhab

Pittsburgh coach all but admitted to doing it years ago.

Pittsburgh coach all but admitted to doing it years ago.
- iLive4theLeafs

go on.

Horrible idea to reward failure. Best way to decide draft order would be give first pick to team that just missed playoffs so there wouldn't be tanking and game would remain better to the end so.
17:1st
18:2nd
19:3th
and then
16:15th
15:16th
and so on
That way being at least competetive would be the goal not being like pens, oilers, islanders were.
- Feppo

Hey! I resent this comment. We still aren't competitive!

Couldnt have said it better sir. There's no doubt that the idea is intriguing at first glance, but if you use ANY sence of thought whatsoever on it you realize just how unfair it is to the big market teams that are struggling like Toronto and (it pains me to be sticking up for them) Montreal. The draft system is perfect the way it is.
- HitterMage99

That is why this "proposal" is a complete fabrication once again brought to you by EK!

They already did it with Pittsburgh, so whats the difference if they do it again? I don't agree with them just giving a 1st overall to a team that is struggling. They should just relocate the teams that are struggling to make a dollar.

I know what the PA is trying to do, but unfortunately it hurts the diplomacy of the situation.

For example, if a man lives with his parents because of employment uncertainty, the parents pay for it. The child assures the parents that he's working hard on finding work and employment will come soon. Now the parents can't diplomatically tell the kid how to live his life or he'll resist.

The PA is the PArents, and the man is the NHL. Now the man assures the parents, but finally, the parents start to make suggestions. Problem is, it devalues the decision-making of the man so that the man develops a lot of spite towards the situation and starts to harbour anger towards the parents.

The PA is NOT in any place to give the NHL any marketing advice on how to improve the state of the league in order that they receive the bigger buck. They are not marketers... this isn't their job. See, they THINK that they're helping with the system so that both sides make more money, but what they're REALLY doing is giving the NHL unwanted parental advice and devaluing the way the NHL markets the game and keeps its franchises afloat. Fehr needs to change his strategies quickly or this lockout will unnecessarily drag on.

I'm sure it's nothing a few million dollars can't fix.

Wang would either be bought out or co owner!!!
- jimmc7722

$200-$300 million, from what I understand.

Money Wang won't pay to become a tenant.

Money the current building owners won't pony up just to secure an extra 41 dates (plus playoffs - calm down, Islanders fans) a year.

It's a non-starter.

Eklund: NHLPA Proposal Allows Bettman to Assign the #1 Pick To A Team in Trouble
- Eklund

Does it start the season on time?!?! Yes? Sign it !!!

Someone said the draft system is perfect, I disagree. The following are my criticisms:

1) Teams that tank on purpose are rewarded, essentially ripping off hometown fans for not being competitive on the ice. This can be avoided with a good draft system.

2) Teams that are always in the margins have to draft 3 or 4 times to get an all star for every first overall team gets to draft to get an all star. F

3) What's worse? A team's points, or a team's out of playoff streak? Edmonton were in the Stanley Cup Finals before the three straight 1st overalls. Pittsburgh and Chicago also benefited from extremely high draft picks. Florida have been out of the playoffs for 10 years until last year because they were always finishing "in the margins". Florida's been the actual worst team, but they have barely smelled a top 3 pick in their long history of failure.

4) Under NO circumstances should a team get two top 3 picks in a row. Never, never, never. Regardless of points, teams in the margins miss the playoffs just as much as teams that are out of the playoffs. Calgary played about as many games in the playoffs in the last three years as Edmonton. However, Jankowski, Reinhart, and Baertschi are not Hall, RNH, and Yakupov.

In fact, I did research, and found that the first and second overall pick are worth twice as much as a 5th overall pick.