Greg Thomson @GThomsonNHL
So apparently Cody Franson has asked Leafs management for a trade. Will try to confirm.

If it's true, he probably wouldn't come with a hefty price tag. Could be a replacement for Viz if that falls through, or just a good addition, regardless.

Something like:

Streit - Hammer
Franson - Viz
Mac - Carkner

looks way better than tossing a rookie in there for third pairing minutes.
- eichiefs9

If Visnovski loses his grievance and is Islanders property, why not trade him to Toronto for Franson. I'd rather have someone who wants to be here than one who doesn't...

If Visnovski loses his grievance and is Islanders property, why not trade him to Toronto for Franson. I'd rather have someone who wants to be here than one who doesn't...
- kear20

why does it have to be one or the other? ill take both....

If Visnovski loses his grievance and is Islanders property, why not trade him to Toronto for Franson. I'd rather have someone who wants to be here than one who doesn't...
- kear20

We all said the same thing about Nabokov after that debacle, and he worked out pretty well. Lubo is a good defenseman and makes this team better. If he stays I wouldn't trade him unless it was an obvious no-brainer.

We all said the same thing about Nabokov after that debacle, and he worked out pretty well. Lubo is a good defenseman and makes this team better. If he stays I wouldn't trade him unless it was an obvious no-brainer.
- eichiefs9

yuuuuup....

and than get franson...a young big defenseman...

thats not an equivalent example... for every fan you get to boycott the nhl there will be 100 that dont.

its a very minor voice
- LetsGoIsles

maybe this is what is happening in long island and people have been protesting the upcoming lockout; we just decided to get a 4 year head start

It doesnt create an advantage for the isles as far as winning goes. But, it does allow him to squeak by year after year without spending the minimum amount.


The purpose of all of this is to create a more balanced NHL. Charles Wang reaching the floor through buyouts and IR players with big salaries does not make the isles competitive.
- kindlyrick

It's not Floor Circumvention, it's just a deception tactic employed by Garth-Genius.
Our low payroll lulls the opposition into a false sense of security. Probably accounted for 5-7 OT losses last season. Hey, a loser point is still a point.
This team, as it is right now, IS in Garth's mind, a playoff contender. Otherwise he would have added more pieces - used our assets to acquire that player that will thrust this team into the playoffs and beyond. MARS B*TCHES!!!!!!!

If Visnovski loses his grievance and is Islanders property, why not trade him to Toronto for Franson. I'd rather have someone who wants to be here than one who doesn't...
- kear20

What makes you think Franson wants to be here just because he doesn't want to be in Toronto?

Nobody is coming unless the Isles lose Viz,
bc then the Isles are very far apart from the cap floor,
If the Isles keep Viz, then the give Matt Martin a contract w/bonuses to reach the floor.

anyone know how far the Isles are from the floor? Under the current CBA

why does it have to be one or the other? ill take both....
- LetsGoIsles

Woooo. Slow down there. Dont forget who our gm is.

Woooo. Slow down there. Dont forget who our gm is.
- Cptmjl

Good Comment!!!

why does it have to be one or the other? ill take both....
- LetsGoIsles

Sounds good to me...

What makes you think Franson wants to be here just because he doesn't want to be in Toronto?
- PeteM

What makes you think he has a choice? His options are (if he was traded here) play or sit on the shelf for a year and then get his contract tolled until the '12-'13 season. And then still likely be Isles property when the term of his contract is up because he'll be an RFA.

anyone know how far the Isles are from the floor?
- brodydog29

about Tim Thomas.

about Tim Thomas.
- Railbait

The reason I ask is on hockey buzz, thet have the Isles salary cap payroll at 46 mil. But I have been looking elsewhere and have seen it at 49+.

If I'm not mistaken the floor would be 54.2. Either way they need to spend some more just to hit the floor, no?

The reason I ask is on hockey buzz, thet have the Isles salary cap payroll at 46 mil. But I have been looking elsewhere and have seen it at 49+.

If I'm not mistaken the floor would be 54.2. Either way they need to spend some more just to hit the floor, no?
- brodydog29

Make an offer sheet to PK subban and call it a day. If the isles have the ability to take this kid away from the Habs and don't they're fools. Garth keeps talking about having the assets well then sign this kid and part ways with a few picks. To me this is a no brainer. Aside from being very talented, he's boys with tavares from junior. You don't think this kids gonna wanna win with JT like they did for Canada in world juniors?

The reason I ask is on hockey buzz, thet have the Isles salary cap payroll at 46 mil. But I have been looking elsewhere and have seen it at 49+.

If I'm not mistaken the floor would be 54.2. Either way they need to spend some more just to hit the floor, no?
- brodydog29

Whatever the number is you can rest assured the isles will be right on top of it and not a penny more.

why?
- LetsGoIsles

Because history dictates......if you haven't noticed the isles arent willing to add to the payroll. They're a bare bones orgnization.

19 of the 30 teams lost money last year. Players have no right to want percentage of revenues.

Im with jethro, top priority should be this front end load mumbo-jumbo. As well as the signing bonus.

Tickets to games are getting more and more expensive, and it will only get worse if players get what they want.

They should know better. Last time they missed season they had to cave in. Start working together and get it done. This guy fehr could care less. Prob not even a fan if game.

I like the idea of 10 yr RFA status. Will encourage trading more rather than offer sheets I off season. I think the offer sheet rules should become even more strict as well.

So if weber was offered 13mm in first year, Philly should have lost first pick and 2nd pick for next 6 years. Then at least Nashville could have let him walk.

Now Nashville profitility as franchise is further strained.

Isles operating at a 8mm a year loss. That's why they are underspending. Do you blame Wang for not bleeding money with arena situation

What makes you think he has a choice? His options are (if he was traded here) play or sit on the shelf for a year and then get his contract tolled until the '12-'13 season. And then still likely be Isles property when the term of his contract is up because he'll be an RFA.
- eichiefs9

Having a choice wasn't the point. The statement was made in talking about Franson that we should get a guy the wants to be here.

I don't know how I feel about front loading. Like in life, there are rich and poor people. Should the rich be punished? .
- kindlyrick

Here's the problem, and it's the same issue with baseball: this is not AT&T versus Verizon, which are two separate and competing businesses in a given industry. The BUSINESS is "the NHL", not the Flyers or the Rag$- the only (however slight) BUSINESS competition the NHL has is the KHL. No one within it competes from a business standpoint....think about it....even in our area...how many of you would root for the Rag$ if the Isles disappeared? Yeah, that's what I thought.

Point being, if they want a league that has New York, Toronto, Philadelphia and not a whole he11 of a lot else, they can keep it as is. However, if they want 30 teams in a "competitive" league, there has to be a way of leveling the playing field. The idea that some fans of THIS team have that the owner is "cheap", and that's why they don't spend money is ridiculous. The owners DO have SOME pride as far as wanting to win, but this isn't the United Way. A businessman doesn't get to be successful by bleeding money hand over fist. There has to be some way of structuring things financially so that all who have been granted a franchise CAN compete ON the ice (note I didn't say WILL....some franchises will still have a certain level of incompetence at the management level that can't be hidden), which would be the point of having a league.

PS- All of that said, NOTHING is going to help THIS team UNLESS it gets a new building. NOTHING, period. And once it does....especially if it's in Brooklyn, or similar....then it won't need to be at the cap floor, and it won't need AS MUCH (if any) assistance from the league revenue sharing.

What makes you think Franson wants to be here just because he doesn't want to be in Toronto?
- PeteM

does he have a NTC or NMC?

19 of the 30 teams lost money last year. Players have no right to want percentage of revenues.

Im with jethro, top priority should be this front end load mumbo-jumbo. As well as the signing bonus.

Tickets to games are getting more and more expensive, and it will only get worse if players get what they want.

They should know better. Last time they missed season they had to cave in. Start working together and get it done. This guy fehr could care less. Prob not even a fan if game.

I like the idea of 10 yr RFA status. Will encourage trading more rather than offer sheets I off season. I think the offer sheet rules should become even more strict as well.

So if weber was offered 13mm in first year, Philly should have lost first pick and 2nd pick for next 6 years. Then at least Nashville could have let him walk.

Now Nashville profitility as franchise is further strained.

Isles operating at a 8mm a year loss. That's why they are underspending. Do you blame Wang for not bleeding money with arena situation
- Spartiarti

Suuuure they did. I'd love to see the accounting wizardry they pulled off to splash that little stat around. And not to mention, owning a sports franchise is essentially a hobby for multi-multi millionaires. I think they all know before they get in that, by and large, you're not guaranteed to make a lot of, or even any, money owning a team outside of a few consistently profitable franchises in each sport. And I doubt if most, or any, of these guys rely on their sports teams as their primary source of income...which was summed up nicely by the Sabres' owner when questioned about whether he was making or losing money. He said something to the effect of, "If I wanted to make more money, I'd drill another hole in the ground." That's honesty. Maybe he's not making money on the team, but he's certainly not "losing" money every year. He's making more than enough elsewhere to fund his expensive hobby, just like the rest of us but on a much larger scale.

Heck, I have plenty of hobbies. None of them make me money. I own several guitars that have cost me a chunk of cash over the years. I don't run around saying, "I'm losing money on my guitar hobby! Someone help me!" If it's such a bad proposition for the owners, then they should get out of it altogether rather than shutting the league down every several years. Ditto for the players. If the league is so oppressive, then pick a different league or find a different career path. Sorry folks, just a bit annoyed at this lockout garbage again. Talk about the worst time from a PR standpoint to argue over who should make more millions... *climbs off soapbox*

Good Comment!!!
- jimmc7722

Thanks;

19 of the 30 teams lost money last year. Players have no right to want percentage of revenues.

Im with jethro, top priority should be this front end load mumbo-jumbo. As well as the signing bonus.

Tickets to games are getting more and more expensive, and it will only get worse if players get what they want.

They should know better. Last time they missed season they had to cave in. Start working together and get it done. This guy fehr could care less. Prob not even a fan if game.

I like the idea of 10 yr RFA status. Will encourage trading more rather than offer sheets I off season. I think the offer sheet rules should become even more strict as well.

So if weber was offered 13mm in first year, Philly should have lost first pick and 2nd pick for next 6 years. Then at least Nashville could have let him walk.

Now Nashville profitility as franchise is further strained.

Isles operating at a 8mm a year loss. That's why they are underspending. Do you blame Wang for not bleeding money with arena situation
- Spartiarti

Ticket prices have no relation to player salaries.

It's simply a matter of supply and demand.

The Winnipeg Jets had the 2nd highest average, non-premium ticket price last year, and were 25th in team payroll.