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77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Aug 19 @ 1:06 PM ET
Too bad that there are probably very few here that have seen Jimmy Watson play.
- 2731color


Met Jimmy at U. of P. rink after practice one afternoon. The Flyers practiced there at 1 PM after a public informal hockey session. Most fans, about 25 or so, stuck around to watch. Oft times the Flyers who arrived early would even skate with us during the informal sessions.

I found one of Jimmy's sticks at the rink that was well worn and discarded. I took it and kept it to this day. Several years ago, Jimmy and Joe were signing autographs at a local mall and I brought it to him to sign. He looked at the stick, held it, admired it, leaned on it, all the while I could tell he was reminiscing about his days as a player. He signed it, told me some great stories (when Joe allowed him to get a word in), and thanked me for bringing it. I offered it to him, but he politely refused and handed it back.

They were two terrific guys to talk to.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Aug 19 @ 1:17 PM ET
Met Jimmy at U. of P. rink after practice one afternoon. The Flyers practiced there at 1 PM after a public informal hockey session. Most fans, about 25 or so, stuck around to watch. Oft times the Flyers who arrived early would even skate with us during the informal sessions.

I found one of Jimmy's sticks at the rink that was well worn and discarded. I took it and kept it to this day. Several years ago, Jimmy and Joe were signing autographs at a local mall and I brought it to him to sign. He looked at the stick, held it, admired it, leaned on it, all the while I could tell he was reminiscing about his days as a player. He signed it, told me some great stories (when Joe allowed him to get a word in), and thanked me for bringing it. I offered it to him, but he politely refused and handed it back.

They were two terrific guys to talk to.

- 77rams



Great story. Both Watsons are terrific people. Total salt-of-the-earth types.


2731color
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.17.2007

Aug 19 @ 1:48 PM ET
Happy 60th Jim. One fan's memory: It was early in the '73-'74 season and I guess the jury was still out on Jimmy, at least for me. But one play will put it all in perspective. In a close game against the Blackhawks, the Flyers won 1-0, Stan Mikita, while not the Mikita of 1964, came flying down the right side and Jimmy was the only player back. Mikita appeared to have the angle and it looked as if he was going to go around Jimmy. But somehow Jimmy jumped to his left cut Mikita off and just turned him aside with push. At that point my buddy and I just looked at each other and nodded like "this guy's gonna make it". He certainly did!
flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

Aug 19 @ 2:08 PM ET
Hey Bill,
Do you think Homer is waiting on the Visnovsky stituation before pulling the trigger on bringing in a Defensemen? There are a lot of potential dominos like the CBA, Possible other tradable player (Bowmeester), or simply negotiationing a UFA. I wondered if Homer might be waiting on Visnovsky as I think he might just jump to the front of the eligible possibly availible Defensemen list.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Aug 19 @ 2:12 PM ET
Hey Bill,
Do you think Homer is waiting on the Visnovsky stituation before pulling the trigger on bringing in a Defensemen? There are a lot of potential dominos like the CBA, Possible other tradable player (Bowmeester), or simply negotiationing a UFA. I wondered if Homer might be waiting on Visnovsky as I think he might just jump to the front of the eligible possibly availible Defensemen list.

- flyler


If Visnovsky doesn't kill himself first...



http://sports.yahoo.com/b...uring-165221968--nhl.html
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Aug 19 @ 2:15 PM ET
Great story. Both Watsons are terrific people. Total salt-of-the-earth types.
- bmeltzer


Yeah, great stories. Never met Jimmy, but did manage to say hello to Joe once, when he stopped to take a breath.

Got to see them play, though.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Aug 19 @ 4:36 PM ET
Barry Ashbe
Bernie
Pelle
Dimitri T
Dupre
Primeau
Lindros
Pronger

The number of players that had career ending/altering injuries or have died is staggering
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 19 @ 4:45 PM ET
Barry Ashbe
Bernie
Pelle
Dimitri T
Dupre
Primeau
Lindros
Pronger

The number of players that had career ending/altering injuries or have died is staggering

- KINGKENZO


Bruce Gamble had a heart attack during a game, during the first period. He finished the game & won it 3-1
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Aug 19 @ 4:57 PM ET
Yeah, great stories. Never met Jimmy, but did manage to say hello to Joe once, when he stopped to take a breath.

Got to see them play, though.

- tangent_man


Only have seen them play on video.
flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

Aug 19 @ 5:18 PM ET
If Visnovsky doesn't kill himself first...



http://sports.yahoo.com/b...uring-165221968--nhl.html

- tangent_man


Yeesh.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Aug 19 @ 5:52 PM ET
not flyers related at all, but i got to play hockey yesterday with nhl network and msg broadcaster/analyst billy jaffe. nice guy. he's only 42 - thought he was a bit older than that. for someone who hasn't skated in 3 years and has some shoulder problems, he's in great shape and can still play. makes a great first pass. he didn't score on me.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Aug 19 @ 7:28 PM ET
not flyers related at all, but i got to play hockey yesterday with nhl network and msg broadcaster/analyst billy jaffe. nice guy. he's only 42 - thought he was a bit older than that. for someone who hasn't skated in 3 years and has some shoulder problems, he's in great shape and can still play. makes a great first pass. he didn't score on me.
- hammarby31


Sounds cool. Surprised there are no bad jokes on signing him to the Flyers (good first pass). Did you have time to chat? Sure he has more stories than you probably have in free time.

Cheers!
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Aug 19 @ 7:43 PM ET
Hey Bill,
Do you think Homer is waiting on the Visnovsky stituation before pulling the trigger on bringing in a Defensemen? There are a lot of potential dominos like the CBA, Possible other tradable player (Bowmeester), or simply negotiationing a UFA. I wondered if Homer might be waiting on Visnovsky as I think he might just jump to the front of the eligible possibly availible Defensemen list.

- flyler


I don't think the Flyers are waiting on Visnovsky, but you never know. I still think he ends up on the Islanders.

Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Aug 19 @ 7:44 PM ET
Happy 60th Jim. One fan's memory: It was early in the '73-'74 season and I guess the jury was still out on Jimmy, at least for me. But one play will put it all in perspective. In a close game against the Blackhawks, the Flyers won 1-0, Stan Mikita, while not the Mikita of 1964, came flying down the right side and Jimmy was the only player back. Mikita appeared to have the angle and it looked as if he was going to go around Jimmy. But somehow Jimmy jumped to his left cut Mikita off and just turned him aside with push. At that point my buddy and I just looked at each other and nodded like "this guy's gonna make it". He certainly did!
- 2731color


Quintessential Watson play.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Aug 19 @ 7:56 PM ET
Sounds cool. Surprised there are no bad jokes on signing him to the Flyers (good first pass). Did you have time to chat? Sure he has more stories than you probably have in free time.

Cheers!

- Daman




i asked him his opinion on the lockout. he said based on what he's been hearing he expects there to be some kind of stoppage and was hopeful it was just for a short period, etc. didn't get into much nhl dirt beyond that. one of the guys in the room owns the rink warwick rink (where we were) and the philadelphia revolution jr. franchise that plays there and billy asked him about it. guy didn't stop talking so there wasn't much opportunity to get a word in.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Aug 19 @ 8:28 PM ET


i asked him his opinion on the lockout. he said based on what he's been hearing he expects there to be some kind of stoppage and was hopeful it was just for a short period, etc. didn't get into much nhl dirt beyond that. one of the guys in the room owns the rink warwick rink (where we were) and the philadelphia revolution jr. franchise that plays there and billy asked him about it. guy didn't stop talking so there wasn't much opportunity to get a word in.

- hammarby31


Hah... We all know people that won't shut up. Oh well. Still a good event I'm guessing.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Aug 19 @ 11:23 PM ET
Bruce Gamble had a heart attack during a game, during the first period. He finished the game & won it 3-1
- Jsaquella



wasnt sure if it was Gamble or Wayne Stephenson..... thanks
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Aug 19 @ 11:26 PM ET
This is OUTSTANDING

http://prohockeytalk.nbcs...achmans-new-shining-mask/
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Aug 19 @ 11:40 PM ET
I read that Del Zotto and the rangers are far apart in negotiations. Does an Rfa have any course of action other than holding out? How many Rfa years does be have left?

Thanks
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 19 @ 11:42 PM ET
I read that Del Zotto and the rangers are far apart in negotiations. Does an Rfa have any course of action other than holding out? How many Rfa years does be have left?

Thanks

- jstross


He can sign an offer sheet or go to the KHL. If he holds out, December 1st is the cut off. If he doesn't sign by then, he can't sign for that season.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Aug 19 @ 11:48 PM ET
He can sign an offer sheet or go to the KHL. If he holds out, December 1st is the cut off. If he doesn't sign by then, he can't sign for that season.
- Jsaquella

Interesting. The article implied they were off more than a million per year. I don't see flyers in play here, but what you value him at per year?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 20 @ 12:06 AM ET
Interesting. The article implied they were off more than a million per year. I don't see flyers in play here, but what you value him at per year?
- jstross


I'd say a deal similar to Luke Schenn's. He's had one year where he really showed his two way ability. His rookie year he played well offensively, but was a weak defender. His second year had Rangers fans wanting him traded.

I'd say 3 or 4 years at 3.5mm or so is fair.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Aug 20 @ 12:10 AM ET
I'd say a deal similar to Luke Schenn's. He's had one year where he really showed his two way ability. His rookie year he played well offensively, but was a weak defender. His second year had Rangers fans wanting him traded.

I'd say 3 or 4 years at 3.5mm or so is fair.

- Jsaquella

Thanks.
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Aug 20 @ 7:13 AM ET
I'd say a deal similar to Luke Schenn's. He's had one year where he really showed his two way ability. His rookie year he played well offensively, but was a weak defender. His second year had Rangers fans wanting him traded.

I'd say 3 or 4 years at 3.5mm or so is fair.

- Jsaquella



I was thinking about this some last night. offer sheet him Mez money 4 years $16 million. We either get a solid dman and the rangers lose one.... or the rangers pay more than they want to keep him. It's a win either way for the player.

Highly unlikely homer goes this route..but if mdz doesn't pan out homer could do the same for Carlson, Subban, or pietrangelo. Offer them more than their current team would like to pay. would help the players tremendously. Probably would make homer public enemy 1 with the owners though.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 20 @ 7:31 AM ET
I was thinking about this some last night. offer sheet him Mez money 4 years $16 million. We either get a solid dman and the rangers lose one.... or the rangers pay more than they want to keep him. It's a win either way for the player.

Highly unlikely homer goes this route..but if mdz doesn't pan out homer could do the same for Carlson, Subban, or pietrangelo. Offer them more than their current team would like to pay. would help the players tremendously. Probably would make homer public enemy 1 with the owners though.

- moylander


Why send an Offer Sheet that has little risk of succeeding? Waste of time.
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