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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 17 @ 2:37 PM ET
you were all about talbot whenever this came up in the past
- Crimsoninja



Still am, he would be a great choice. But it really doesn't matter to me. All the candidates mentioned would be good choices.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 17 @ 2:38 PM ET
My choice is one of Timonen, Briere, Talbot, Giroux, Hartnell, or who ever. Doesn't matter to me. I think the whole Captain factor is overrated anyway.
- MJL



flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

Aug 17 @ 2:57 PM ET
I blame Panachio!
- Marc D


Me too Ironically.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Aug 17 @ 3:23 PM ET
I wish the Flyers would do an equivalent to what the Oilers do with their "Oil Change" series.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Aug 17 @ 3:24 PM ET
I wish the Flyers would do an equivalent to what the Oilers do with their "Oil Change" series.
- mochoson

Enjoyed that so much.
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Aug 17 @ 3:27 PM ET
small world.....live in Philly work in Wilmington
- KINGKENZO



originally from DE...moved in with the fiance
Stinkfitz
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Aston, PA
Joined: 08.14.2012

Aug 17 @ 3:41 PM ET
I wish the Flyers would do an equivalent to what the Oilers do with their "Oil Change" series.
- mochoson


That would be great. Would also like to see CSN do something similar to NHL36 that the NHL network does.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 17 @ 4:00 PM ET
Enjoyed that so much.
- bodiva88

Me too, but I dont think Snider would be up for it...
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 17 @ 4:01 PM ET
originally from DE...moved in with the fiance
- phi1671

How about this... I live in DELAWARE COUNTY... and used to work in a COUNTY in DELAWARE!
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Aug 17 @ 4:12 PM ET
I wish the Flyers would do an equivalent to what the Oilers do with their "Oil Change" series.
- mochoson

bryz says nyet
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Aug 17 @ 4:13 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: The Captaincy Question
- bmeltzer



Timonen should get it, expiring contract be damned. He's the Lidstrom on this team, the rock you can tie the ship to.

Briere's got the personality for it, but the recent offensive inconsistencies, shoddy defensive play and bad penalties make it hard for him to be as steady of a leader on the ice.

Giroux has plenty of time to assume the mantle... the "shift" has sent hearts aflutter, but I say let the kid keep establishing his game on the ice without having to carry the weight of the franchise off it as well.

Hartnell's like Briere... the discipline just isn't there sometimes and I while he's even-keeled, he's got an immature/showman streak to him that IMO isn't becoming of a captain.

Talbot is an interesting dark horse candidate -- great ambassador to the fans, steady on the ice, been there done that, his teammates clearly adore him. He may be more 'A' material though.
flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

Aug 17 @ 4:21 PM ET
Timonen should get it, expiring contract be damned. He's the Lidstrom on this team, the rock you can tie the ship to.

- Tomahawk


I don't care too much about the Captaincy or where it goes. But I do fully agree with Kimmo = Lidstrom for the Flyers. I predict Timmonen will re-sign barring something unfortunate. I can't name any other player that has been a steadier leader & Presence than Kimmo. I hope he get's paired with Schenn for the simply reason of having a bit of what he does rub off on Luke. If his Pairing with Schenn does what his pairing with Coburn did for Brayden we will be okay on D.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Aug 17 @ 4:26 PM ET
I don't care too much about the Captaincy or where it goes. But I do fully agree with Kimmo = Lidstrom for the Flyers. I predict Timmonen will re-sign barring something unfortunate. I can't name any other player that has been a steadier leader & Presence than Kimmo. I hope he get's paired with Schenn for the simply reason of having a bit of what he does rub off on Luke. If his Pairing with Schenn does what his pairing with Coburn did for Brayden we will be okay on D.
- flyler



Schenn seemed to complement Kaberle well -- Timonen/Schenn looks just as good on paper.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Aug 17 @ 4:47 PM ET
How about this... I live in DELAWARE COUNTY... and used to work in a COUNTY in DELAWARE!
- jak521

Delco, represent!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 17 @ 4:48 PM ET
Simmonds cap hit is $3.975 with a modified NTC in the UFA years. Which is 17/18 and 18/19.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Aug 17 @ 5:03 PM ET
PRIMEAU
- FinAddict

overrated
2731color
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.17.2007

Aug 17 @ 5:33 PM ET
overrated
- JoeRussomanno

Be that as it may but his 2004 playoff lived up to expectations.
flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

Aug 17 @ 6:18 PM ET
Schenn seemed to complement Kaberle well -- Timonen/Schenn looks just as good on paper.
- Tomahawk


Agreed. I think that's our #1 pair. Not that I want to overwork Kimmo but having Schenn throwing the hits around could really help protect Timonen by having the opposition looking over their shoulder's more.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Aug 17 @ 6:36 PM ET
Simmonds cap hit is $3.975 with a modified NTC in the UFA years. Which is 17/18 and 18/19.
- MJL


Nice signing. Should be a very good player for the Flyers.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Aug 17 @ 7:11 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: The Captaincy Question
- bmeltzer


Lilja for Captain

flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

Aug 17 @ 7:25 PM ET
So here is a question. If the Lockout should happen and we end up losing a full or partial year of hockey. Does supporting/following the Phantoms or another AHL team mean supporting the Owners and NHL? Is there some kind of Money changing place or are they owned by separate entities?
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Aug 17 @ 7:28 PM ET
Timonen should get it, expiring contract be damned. He's the Lidstrom on this team, the rock you can tie the ship to.

Briere's got the personality for it, but the recent offensive inconsistencies, shoddy defensive play and bad penalties make it hard for him to be as steady of a leader on the ice.

Giroux has plenty of time to assume the mantle... the "shift" has sent hearts aflutter, but I say let the kid keep establishing his game on the ice without having to carry the weight of the franchise off it as well.

Hartnell's like Briere... the discipline just isn't there sometimes and I while he's even-keeled, he's got an immature/showman streak to him that IMO isn't becoming of a captain.

Talbot is an interesting dark horse candidate -- great ambassador to the fans, steady on the ice, been there done that, his teammates clearly adore him. He may be more 'A' material though.

- Tomahawk

This is fantastic.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 17 @ 7:49 PM ET
So here is a question. If the Lockout should happen and we end up losing a full or partial year of hockey. Does supporting/following the Phantoms or another AHL team mean supporting the Owners and NHL? Is there some kind of Money changing place or are they owned by separate entities?
- flyler


The Phantoms are no longer owned by the Flyers, so if you do support them, you're supporting the Brooks Sports Management group
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 17 @ 7:49 PM ET
Timonen should get it, expiring contract be damned. He's the Lidstrom on this team, the rock you can tie the ship to.

Briere's got the personality for it, but the recent offensive inconsistencies, shoddy defensive play and bad penalties make it hard for him to be as steady of a leader on the ice.

Giroux has plenty of time to assume the mantle... the "shift" has sent hearts aflutter, but I say let the kid keep establishing his game on the ice without having to carry the weight of the franchise off it as well.

Hartnell's like Briere... the discipline just isn't there sometimes and I while he's even-keeled, he's got an immature/showman streak to him that IMO isn't becoming of a captain.

Talbot is an interesting dark horse candidate -- great ambassador to the fans, steady on the ice, been there done that, his teammates clearly adore him. He may be more 'A' material though.

- Tomahawk


I agree and would like to subscribe to your newsletter
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Aug 17 @ 7:59 PM ET
The league-wide trend toward locking up the better D-men into long-term extensions looks like it will continue. Canucks to begin talks with Edler on an extension. With Enström having already extended with Winnipeg, there will be no All-Star caliber D on the UFA market next summer, assuming something gets done between Edler and Canucks (and I think it will, ahead of CBA expiration).

http://www.vancouversun.c.../story.html#ixzz23qCTY4eO)

All of better (potential; but they'll probably be extended, too) FA defensemen next summer are RFAs: Alex Pietrangelo, Oliver Ekman-Larsson and Zach Bogosian being at the head of the line, in that order.

In other words, for those of you figuring on the Flyers using Kimmo Timonen's expiring contract as a leg up on a big UFA defenseman signing next year, forget it. It may very well be that Timonen himself ends up being the best UFA defenseman available.

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