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Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Aug 17 @ 11:23 PM ET
I would do Lu for Brewer . It is better than the bag of pucks we have been offered

So it is 1 rounder and Purcell for Edler and sorry Fos ,I would do that too as long as we had a decent replacement for Eddie.


Send Fos out for Pizza again

- VANTEL

I did earlier and he returned fast. Fosco is deceptively fast.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Aug 17 @ 11:24 PM ET
But you over rate Edler and I under rate him . He is somewhere in the middle .

I know he scored 50 pts. I think if he has another season like last year his value drops even more.

- VANTEL


A defender's value doesn't drop when they score 50pts a season, no matter how many defensive gaffs they have.

I'm aware Edler had a bad second half of the season, but that was a combination of his own back issues (still a bit concerning, I'll admit) and the fact that Salo is about as durable as a 70 year old woman with osteoporosis and couldn't handle 2nd pairing minutes.

If Edler played the way he did the first 35 games of the season, for the entire year, he would have beaten Karlsson out for the Norris. How can you not be optimistic about that kind of potential in a 26 year old?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 17 @ 11:24 PM ET
I did earlier and he returned fast. Fosco is deceptively fast.
- Bieksa#3



Domino Fosco . If you don't have your pizza in 20 min you get a free Edler insult.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 17 @ 11:25 PM ET
Do you stay in BC ever for more than a week? Take us on tour with you.
- VANTEL

I was home for two weeks before I went to Muskoka, really nice there! September, I ain't goin nowhere!!!
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Aug 17 @ 11:25 PM ET
I would do Lu for Brewer . It is better than the bag of pucks we have been offered

So it is 1 rounder and Purcell for Edler and sorry Fos ,I would do that too as long as we had a decent replacement for Eddie.


Send Fos out for Pizza again

- VANTEL


You overrate Brewer more than I overrate Edler.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 17 @ 11:28 PM ET
A defender's value doesn't drop when they score 50pts a season, no matter how many defensive gaffs they have.

I'm aware Edler had a bad second half of the season, but that was a combination of his own back issues (still a bit concerning, I'll admit) and the fact that Salo is about as durable as a 70 year old woman with osteoporosis and couldn't handle 2nd pairing minutes.

If Edler played the way he did the first 35 games of the season, for the entire year, he would have beaten Karlsson out for the Norris. How can you not be optimistic about that kind of potential in a 26 year old?

- Fosco



Edler is fine. I think you know by now I like D and forwards to stand in there on occassion and drop them . I think if a player doesn't back up his play sometimes it lets other teams know they can do what they want and not have to pay the price. Edler has great skills . He has played his heart out for our team so I don't want to say too much against him .I do like him. Would I prefer a Jak Johnson type Dman ?Yes I would.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Aug 17 @ 11:29 PM ET
You overrate Brewer more than I overrate Edler.
- Fosco

I'll agree here, I was thinking Lu is worth brewer and a 2nd
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 17 @ 11:30 PM ET
You overrate Brewer more than I overrate Edler.
- Fosco



Not really. I just don't think they would offer more. Salo and Ohlund ,no thanks . Hedman no offer so Brewer is next seeing they just got Carle.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Aug 17 @ 11:31 PM ET
Edler is fine. I think you know by now I like D and forwards to stand in there on occassion and drop them . I think if a player doesn't back up his play sometimes it lets other teams know they can do what they want and not have to pay the price. Edler has great skills . He has played his heart out for our team so I don't want to say too much against him .I do like him. Would I prefer a Jak Johnson type Dman ?Yes I would.
- VANTEL

I'm a Jack Johnson fan as well, but Jacky boy can be an adventure in his own end at times
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 17 @ 11:32 PM ET
I was home for two weeks before I went to Muskoka, really nice there! September, I ain't goin nowhere!!!
- LeftCoaster



No more UAE
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 17 @ 11:33 PM ET
I'm a Jack Johnson fan as well, but Jacky boy can be an adventure in his own end at times
- Bieksa#3



You mean like Edler and Bieksa He would fit right in then
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Aug 17 @ 11:34 PM ET
You mean like Edler and Bieksa He would fit right in then
- VANTEL

More like Bieksa. Hamhuis would have to play 50 min a night.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 17 @ 11:35 PM ET
Nice interview woth Willie Mitchell on the 1040 today. He still misses the Canucks. He wish he won the cup here.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 17 @ 11:36 PM ET
More like Bieksa. Hamhuis would have to play 50 min a night.
- Bieksa#3



at 4.5 mil he should be playing 50 a night
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 17 @ 11:37 PM ET
No more UAE
- VANTEL

Yeah, still working there, but I'm home September 20th for four weeks and I'm not going anywhere. Have to go back to work Monday morning
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 17 @ 11:38 PM ET
Edler for John Carlson
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Aug 17 @ 11:41 PM ET
Edler for John Carlson
- LeftCoaster

I said that well over a month ago. Truth be told Edler would help Wash. orlov, Carlson and Green are all offense. Edler is a little more well rounded while still putting up over 50 points
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 17 @ 11:41 PM ET
Yeah, still working there, but I'm home September 20th for four weeks and I'm not going anywhere. Have to go back to work Monday morning
- LeftCoaster

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 18 @ 12:19 AM ET
He would fit fine there Ohlund Salo and Hedman

If Gillis was smart he would do Edler Raymond Lu for Purcell Garon Brewer

- VANTEL

Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Aug 18 @ 12:20 AM ET
I said that well over a month ago. Truth be told Edler would help Wash. orlov, Carlson and Green are all offense. Edler is a little more well rounded while still putting up over 50 points
- Bieksa#3


Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 18 @ 12:20 AM ET
Edler is fine. I think you know by now I like D and forwards to stand in there on occassion and drop them . I think if a player doesn't back up his play sometimes it lets other teams know they can do what they want and not have to pay the price. Edler has great skills . He has played his heart out for our team so I don't want to say too much against him .I do like him. Would I prefer a Jak Johnson type Dman ?Yes I would.
- VANTEL


LA's defense didn't miss a beat without JJ and he was constantly criticized for his horrible defensive play. He's similar to Phaneuf, both overrated.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 18 @ 10:34 AM ET
Iain MacIntyre‏@imacVanSun

Survived guest-host spot w. Sekeras on 1040. Willie Mitchell told us his ultimate dream was to win SC w Canucks. So he's one-up.


Two years removed from the Canucks Mitchell looked like a all world Dman. His last year on the Canucks he looked all beer league Dman.

It seems sometimes our D looks old and confused but when they move on the flourish. Is our D system outdated? Look at Willie under Daryll, it is like night and day.

Waiting for DCT.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Aug 18 @ 11:02 AM ET
The Big Time Out in Cumberland this weekend. Looking forward to Black Mountain ripping my head off tonight.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Aug 18 @ 11:26 AM ET
Iain MacIntyre‏@imacVanSun

Survived guest-host spot w. Sekeras on 1040. Willie Mitchell told us his ultimate dream was to win SC w Canucks. So he's one-up.


Two years removed from the Canucks Mitchell looked like a all world Dman. His last year on the Canucks he looked all beer league Dman.

It seems sometimes our D looks old and confused but when they move on the flourish. Is our D system outdated? Look at Willie under Daryll, it is like night and day.

Waiting for DCT.

- VANTEL
I think all world is maybe getting a bit carried away. I'm surprised he is doing well though. Fans tend to be harder on their players. Look no furthur then our 3rd/4th line. We eat them alive but they are decent. Look at the devils. They had an amazing 4th line. 2 of them were career minor league players and the other has been through a half a dozen teams and never stuck.
IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

Aug 18 @ 11:33 AM ET
new blog up finally
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