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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 17 @ 8:16 PM ET
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DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Aug 17 @ 8:20 PM ET
BTW, i'll stick Tambellni to the side of the other two, as I would call his strategies far different that Burke's or Feaster's.

How are the Burke's or Feaster's being rewarded under the current system? They're two GMs that rely the LEAST on drafting.

I also don't get this "building teams properly" nonsense. To me, being a good GM seems like a pretty consequential game doesn't it? In fact, just as it's frustrating for other fans to hear Edmonton constantly compared to Chicago and Pittsburgh, it's just as frustrating to learn that drafting and developing is no way to build a team. There are tons of ways to build a good team. And any particular strategy has a list of successes and failures.

And what has Detroit shown that can be used as a template? Pick players with flaws in their game at their draft age and hope to your darndest they pollish them out to become Lidstrom, Datsyuk, Zetterberg, and Franzen? They've got good scouting and development for sure, but there's not too many teams that could replicate, or diagnose how to replicate, that success.

- Morris


No, any team could replicate the Detroit model, but it does take commitment to stick to it long-term and ignore the short-term pain of keeping prospects in the minors learning the game and the system until they're ready, rather than throwing them into the mix right away and learning on the fly. What I mean when I say building teams properly is that you are competitive every year, you have players in the minors that are ready to step up and play when you get injuries and not be a huge downgrade in talent/ability or a liability. It means that you aren't having to fill holes in key positions from outside the organization and you have enough homegrown talent to get that one piece you might be lacking at the trade deadline without gutting your prospect pool. It's not going to guarantee you a Stanley Cup every year, but it will keep you in the mix for as long as you stick with the program.
jhawk159
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 10.13.2009

Aug 17 @ 9:16 PM ET
Any good rumors out there in twitter land?
- LeftCoaster



I just read this one FWIW ..........

Jesse Rogers ‏@ESPNChiHawks
Im going back on vaca RT@Sugjoshtions: @ESPNChiHawks Vancouver friend says rumors out there have Hawks offering Bolland for Lou. Thoughts?
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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 17 @ 9:28 PM ET
I just read this one FWIW ..........

Jesse Rogers ‏@ESPNChiHawks
Im going back on vaca RT@Sugjoshtions: @ESPNChiHawks Vancouver friend says rumors out there have Hawks offering Bolland for Lou. Thoughts?
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- jhawk159

That would be priceless if it happened!
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Aug 17 @ 9:34 PM ET
OMG Facts SEX‏@OMGFactsSex

Kawasaki, Japan hosts a penis festival on the first Sunday of every April

Just booked my tickets ...Confirmed.

- VANTEL


You don't have to go to Japan to see a lot of Richards. Just head on over to the leaf's thread.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Aug 17 @ 9:46 PM ET
You don't have to go to Japan to see a lot of Richards. Just head on over to the leaf's thread.
- bloatedmosquito

Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Aug 17 @ 10:06 PM ET
No, any team could replicate the Detroit model, but it does take commitment to stick to it long-term and ignore the short-term pain of keeping prospects in the minors learning the game and the system until they're ready, rather than throwing them into the mix right away and learning on the fly. What I mean when I say building teams properly is that you are competitive every year, you have players in the minors that are ready to step up and play when you get injuries and not be a huge downgrade in talent/ability or a liability. It means that you aren't having to fill holes in key positions from outside the organization and you have enough homegrown talent to get that one piece you might be lacking at the trade deadline without gutting your prospect pool. It's not going to guarantee you a Stanley Cup every year, but it will keep you in the mix for as long as you stick with the program.
- DariusKnight

A proper team build should bring years of success and being competitive, but isn't that what Chicago, Washington and Pittsburgh are? Heck, even Vancouver had a stretch at the end of the 90s where drafting high set up their current success. Staying near the top is pretty easy compared to getting on top, imo. I woud understand your point if there were teams tanking for years and the payoff is one good season before they dismantle, but there aren't. There are teams that are successful from building through the draft, and there are those who never are. I don't think we're breeding a culture of poopty GMs, I just think that there are poopty GMs.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Aug 17 @ 10:08 PM ET
The owners that are asking for the delay are the poor ones. So in the meantime the rich owners pay for Doan to play there and Semin to play in Carolina and Stamkos to play in TB but we get Mason Raymond. Does not seem fair. I would rather see them pay 20 mil for their team and let us spend as much as we want with a luxury tax . Time to remove the anchors .

If an owner wanted to pay 20 mil for his roster good luck getting fans to the bldg.

In Gary Bettmans world we should all be driving Porches.

- VANTEL

So reform revenue sharing and create policy to prevent the league/the owner's buying and propping up teams. I'm not against that. I think it's a better solution than revoking franchises and voiding contracts - It's realistic, and won't lead to complications that could permanently damage the growth of the sport.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 17 @ 10:15 PM ET
I just read this one FWIW ..........

Jesse Rogers ‏@ESPNChiHawks
Im going back on vaca RT@Sugjoshtions: @ESPNChiHawks Vancouver friend says rumors out there have Hawks offering Bolland for Lou. Thoughts?
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- jhawk159




What's next? Trading for Marchand?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 17 @ 10:16 PM ET
You don't have to go to Japan to see a lot of Richards. Just head on over to the leaf's thread.
- bloatedmosquito



Did want to see one I wanted those cute japanese girls attending to it .
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 17 @ 10:23 PM ET
Rumor Wire‏@RumorWire

BREAKING: #Lightning have offered up Purcell, 2013 1st for Edler. #Canucks have yet to respond!


Rumor Wire‏@RumorWire

#Flyers might go after Edler now! He is wanting too much $$. More to come..
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Aug 17 @ 10:28 PM ET
Rumor Wire‏@RumorWire

BREAKING: #Lightning have offered up Purcell, 2013 1st for Edler. #Canucks have yet to respond!


Rumor Wire‏@RumorWire

#Flyers might go after Edler now! He is wanting too much $$. More to come..

- VANTEL

Coutourier
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Aug 17 @ 10:36 PM ET
Rumor Wire‏@RumorWire

BREAKING: #Lightning have offered up Purcell, 2013 1st for Edler. #Canucks have yet to respond!


Rumor Wire‏@RumorWire

#Flyers might go after Edler now! He is wanting too much $$. More to come..

- VANTEL


B & L. Schenn, Couturier + 2013 1st for Edler, Higgins, Schroeder + our 2013 3rd
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Aug 17 @ 10:39 PM ET
B & L. Schenn, Couturier + 2013 1st for Edler, Higgins, Schroeder + our 2013 3rd
- DariusKnight


You're going to catch some heat for that one.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 17 @ 10:41 PM ET
Rumor Wire‏@RumorWire

BREAKING: #Lightning have offered up Purcell, 2013 1st for Edler. #Canucks have yet to respond!


Rumor Wire‏@RumorWire

#Flyers might go after Edler now! He is wanting too much $$. More to come..

- VANTEL

I would hope he can get a better return than that!
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 17 @ 10:43 PM ET
B & L. Schenn, Couturier + 2013 1st for Edler, Higgins, Schroeder + our 2013 3rd
- DariusKnight



TB 24 G 6'3 RHF and a top 10 draft for an inconsisitent D. Where do I sign

I will get heat for this.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Aug 17 @ 10:45 PM ET
Rumor Wire‏@RumorWire

BREAKING: #Lightning have offered up Purcell, 2013 1st for Edler. #Canucks have yet to respond!


Rumor Wire‏@RumorWire

#Flyers might go after Edler now! He is wanting too much $$. More to come..

- VANTEL

Is this in any way legitimate? That lightning deal looks pretty good.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 17 @ 10:47 PM ET
Is this in any way legitimate? That lightning deal looks pretty good.
- Morris


None of the rumour Dream Team are legit.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 17 @ 10:48 PM ET
OMG Facts CELEBS‏@OMGFactsCelebs

Paris Hilton has size 11 feet


She must have a big ======)))
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 17 @ 10:49 PM ET
OMG Facts CELEBS‏@OMGFactsCelebs

Paris Hilton has size 11 feet


She must have a big ======)))

- VANTEL

Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Aug 17 @ 10:49 PM ET
TB 24 G 6'3 RHF and a top 10 draft for an inconsisitent D. Where do I sign

I will get heat for this.

- VANTEL




edit: Edler man-crush aside, a 26 year old D who consistently puts up 40+ points/season and actually does play great defensively for half a season, and is still called "inconsistent" by select few in the fanbase, must still be a pretty damn good D.

edit: edit: Ok, I didn't really put my Edler man-crush aside.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 17 @ 10:50 PM ET

- LeftCoaster



She looks like a dude
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 17 @ 10:52 PM ET
She looks like a dude
- VANTEL

Wouldn't surprise me if he has a d!ck.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Aug 17 @ 10:52 PM ET

- Fosco

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 17 @ 10:56 PM ET

- Fosco



He would fit fine there Ohlund Salo and Hedman

If Gillis was smart he would do Edler Raymond Lu for Purcell Garon Brewer
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