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BoBBeR56
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Leaf Nation, ON
Joined: 06.30.2010

Aug 14 @ 3:40 PM ET
Why does Vancouver need to move their 3 rd best player from last year? So we can make Leafs happy?


- VANTEL

Exactly...why do they?
Oh yah, because he wants out of Van, because he gets the short end of the stick from Canuck fans who have now appointed Schneider as the #1 even though he has less career starts than Reimer.
hankthetank
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: I went to school for journalism. Our job was to be a mirror. We were to be the watchdog for society.
Joined: 07.03.2007

Aug 14 @ 3:40 PM ET
Well, I suppose we'll agree to disagree. Given their stature among NHL goalies, and the fact that Luongo asked for a trade, and the fact that Schneider is reportedly supplanting Luongo as a starter, I see it as having a comparatively higher potential to blow up.
- Morris


Still believe Gillis when he says Luongo never asked for a trade.
Yes, agree to disagree. I see having 2 very good goalies as a better situation than having one very good goalie. Depth is a good thing. Agree to disagree.
hankthetank
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: I went to school for journalism. Our job was to be a mirror. We were to be the watchdog for society.
Joined: 07.03.2007

Aug 14 @ 3:41 PM ET
Exactly...why do they?
Oh yah, because he wants out of Van, because he gets the short end of the stick from Canuck fans who have now appointed Schneider as the #1 even though he has less career starts than Reimer.

- BoBBeR56


Anyone have the quote of Luongo asking for a trade?
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 14 @ 3:42 PM ET
Well, I suppose we'll agree to disagree. Given their stature among NHL goalies, and the fact that Luongo asked for a trade, and the fact that Schneider is reportedly supplanting Luongo as a starter, I see it as having a comparatively higher potential to blow up.
- Morris

1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 14 @ 3:43 PM ET
Not all of us did.
- fiveandagame


Remember last week, the Messier bashing, how he "ripped" the C of Linden's jersey etc etc?

I was thinking, it wasn't really that Messier ripped it off, Linden gave it willingly. He put aside his ego and everything that he had given to date to the organization to do what he felt was right, which was to help Messier, believed to be the greatest leader in professional sports, transition to the Canucks. This to me demonstrates just how great Linden was. If Messier was as great a leader as he was made out to be, he would have declined the offer, and helped Linden to continue building a championship environment for the players. Sadly, we all know how that turned out.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 14 @ 3:43 PM ET
Anyone have the quote of Luongo asking for a trade?
- hankthetank

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/...rto-luongo-interview.html
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Aug 14 @ 3:43 PM ET
Anyone have the quote of Luongo asking for a trade?
- hankthetank


"If the team feels they want to trade, please do, but PLEASE GOD DON'T TRADE ME TORONTO" - Luongo.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Aug 14 @ 3:44 PM ET
Remember last week, the Messier bashing, how he "ripped" the C of Linden's jersey etc etc?

I was thinking, it wasn't really that Messier ripped it off, Linden gave it willingly. He put aside his ego and everything that he had given to date to the organization to do what he felt was right, which was to help Messier, believed to be the greatest leader in professional sports, transition to the Canucks. This to me demonstrates just how great Linden was. If Messier was as great a leader as he was made out to be, he would have declined the offer, and helped Linden to continue building a championship environment for the players. Sadly, we all know how that turned out.

- 1970vintage


+1
billyberg10
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: HEAVEN
Joined: 09.27.2011

Aug 14 @ 3:44 PM ET
"If the team feels they want to trade, please do, but PLEASE GOD TRADE ME TORONTO" - Luongo.
- pker2theend

fixed
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Aug 14 @ 3:44 PM ET
Still believe Gillis when he says Luongo never asked for a trade.
Yes, agree to disagree. I see having 2 very good goalies as a better situation than having one very good goalie. Depth is a good thing. Agree to disagree.

- hankthetank

Just to ram my point home, it wasn't that having two very good goalies is a worse thing than having one very good goalie. It was that while having two very good goalies probably helps you win more games, there's also a higher potential for locker room friction than having just one of them. From my perspective, it's high risk, high reward, which at this point in the franchises' development may be a good thing thing unless you can trade Lu and improve some other position.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 14 @ 3:44 PM ET
Anyone have the quote of Luongo asking for a trade?
- hankthetank


He has never officially asked for a trade, but he did suggest that his time in Vancouver was over, and that he was looking forward to a new challenge. I posted the interview on like page 9 or so...

EDIT - He also said he had never had any specific conversations with the team about where he would be willing to play, that Gillis had never asked him to waive his NTC and that while he did have a long contract, he only had a few more years left in his career.
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Aug 14 @ 3:45 PM ET
"If the team feels they want to trade, please do, but PLEASE GOD DON'T TRADE ME TORONTO" - Luongo.
- pker2theend

Seems about right
hankthetank
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: I went to school for journalism. Our job was to be a mirror. We were to be the watchdog for society.
Joined: 07.03.2007

Aug 14 @ 3:46 PM ET
He has never officially asked for a trade, but he did suggest that his time in Vancouver was over, and that he was looking forward to a new challenge. I posted the interview on like page 9 or so...
- 1970vintage


Ahhhh, just returned from a lengthy summer abroad and never saw that interiew with Jeff O'Neil. I thought we were still going by his post game comments and Kyper's tweet.
BoBBeR56
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Leaf Nation, ON
Joined: 06.30.2010

Aug 14 @ 3:47 PM ET
No problem then he should clear waivers easily then because no one wants a goalie for 10 years at 5.3 per.
- VANTEL

Not true at all...just no one wants to give up significant amounts of assets (players, prospects, picks) for him...
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 14 @ 3:47 PM ET
Ahhhh, just returned from a lengthy summer abroad and never saw that interiew with Jeff O'Neil. I thought we were still going by his post game comments and Kyper's tweet.
- hankthetank

So....

....still believe Luongo in Vancouver this year is an option?
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Aug 14 @ 3:48 PM ET
What would probably happen is one of them would say they want to play more, the media would run with it and twist it into saying one of them demanded to play more or else, and then we would all be right back in this same position we are now.
- hankthetank


the canadian hockey media has become a horrible hit machine

they dont even care about truth now
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Aug 14 @ 3:48 PM ET
fixed
- billyberg10


Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Aug 14 @ 3:48 PM ET
I truly believe that if both were to start the season in Vancouver, that the expectation would be to split the starts, but that eventually, AV would go with the guy that earns more starts.
- 1970vintage


and that would be fair
hankthetank
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: I went to school for journalism. Our job was to be a mirror. We were to be the watchdog for society.
Joined: 07.03.2007

Aug 14 @ 3:49 PM ET
So....

....still believe Luongo in Vancouver this year is an option?

- Atomic Wedgie


Yes. As do a lot of other people.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 14 @ 3:49 PM ET
the canadian hockey media has become a horrible hit machine

they dont even care about truth now

- Dozzer

That's why more of us are turning to guys like Hockeyy Insiderr to get our news.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 14 @ 3:50 PM ET
Ahhhh, just returned from a lengthy summer abroad and never saw that interiew with Jeff O'Neil. I thought we were still going by his post game comments and Kyper's tweet.
- hankthetank


It was seriously entertaining, and showed a lot of Lu's character. If you haven't listened, it's worth the 25 or so minutes. Post game I believe he said he would be "willing to waive his NTC if he was asked", if it was the best thing for the team. Then AV franked it up by commenting to a French reporter...
hankthetank
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: I went to school for journalism. Our job was to be a mirror. We were to be the watchdog for society.
Joined: 07.03.2007

Aug 14 @ 3:50 PM ET
That's why more of us are turning to guys like Hockeyy Insiderr to get our news.
- Atomic Wedgie


...Wait, seriously?
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 14 @ 3:50 PM ET
Yes. As do a lot of other people.
- hankthetank

Just apparently not Roberto Luongo.

"I think it’s really time to move on, I don’t think it was either one of us, either I demanded a trade or Mike suggest I leave, but I think it was more of a mutual understanding that it was time for me to go and Cory [Schneider] to take over."
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 14 @ 3:51 PM ET
That's why more of us are turning to guys like Hockeyy Insiderr to get our news.
- Atomic Wedgie

Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 14 @ 3:51 PM ET
...Wait, seriously?
- hankthetank

No, Hank.

Not seriously.
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