No problem then he should clear waivers easily then because no one wants a goalie for 10 years at 5.3 per.
- VANTEL

Not that it would ever happen, but that would totally suck for Lu because you know he would end up somewhere he really wouldn't want to play. If he starts the season in Van, there are no guarantees its as a backup.

I can promise you hand on heart, swear on my life.I don't want Luongo. I promise you.
- walshyleafsfan1

I don't believe you

He would have to clear waivers first, at least under the current CBA. Only answering that question, I got your point all along.

These TML fans all want Luongo, they just can't admit it. If they didn't, they would be someplace else.
- 1970vintage

I can only speak for one Leafs fan (although the best looking, smartest one with the best dog).

I would like to see Luongo on the Leafs this year: if the price is right.

And that's a very low price.

Like a Komi, D'Amigo and a 3rd kinda price.

Is he a good goalie? Yes.

Is he top 5? In my opinion, no.

Is his contract as bad as many say? Once again, in my opinion, no.

But let's make no mistake about it: most teams don't like the idea of being on the hook for an extra $7 million, when you run the very real risk of the guy not being able to do it anymore.

The Leafs can assume this risk; it's just money. But there really aren't any other franchises around that are willing to do this: the Rangers have no interest, neither does Philly, nor does the Habs. Florida isn't willing to assume this financial risk (sorry, but they aren't).

A 1st round pick is a non-starter. Especially now that it looks like free agency is going to be pushed back a few years.

We can't afford to give you good roster players. We can't afford to give you good prospects.

So it's really a handful of not much for Luongo. If that doesn't get it done (and I'm not saying it will), then so be it. Vancouver can start the season (whenever that happens) with two #1s in the stable.

Leafs can start with Reimer and Scrivens, or someone else.

But drop the idea that the Leafs need Luongo badly - our current #1 centre is Tyler Bozak. It's not going to be a Stanley Cup season, so there really isn't a pressing need to get a #1 goalie.

I think Luongo is going to Florida and the deal will be finalized after Doan makes up his mind.
- fiveandagame

Ditto

They all want Luongo becasue they know he could be a difference maker but they don't want to pay for him at all and they justify that lack of payment by always bringing up his contract. IF (and that is a big if) he goes to Toronto, I think the majority of Leaf fans are going to be surprised by the return. It will not be Gardnier, Reilly and 1st, but it will be a hell of lot better then a salary dump and a mid round pick.
- fiveandagame

Sure, and as they're saying, a lot of Canuck fans will also be surprised by the return. I agree it will cut a middle ground, and given the leaf's precarious cap situation, I'd count on money coming back to Van.

I can promise you hand on heart, swear on my life.I don't want Luongo. I promise you.
- walshyleafsfan1

Why? Is playoff hockey too intense for you?

I can only speak for one Leafs fan (although the best looking, smartest one with the best dog).

I would like to see Luongo on the Leafs this year: if the price is right.

And that's a very low price.
Like a Komi, D'Amigo and a 3rd kinda price.

Is he a good goalie? Yes.

Is he top 5? In my opinion, no.

Is his contract as bad as many say? Once again, in my opinion, no.

But let's make no mistake about it: most teams don't like the idea of being on the hook for an extra $7 million, when you run the very real risk of the guy not being able to do it anymore.

The Leafs can assume this risk; it's just money. But there really aren't any other franchises around that are willing to do this: the Rangers have no interest, neither does Philly, nor does the Habs. Florida isn't willing to assume this financial risk (sorry, but they aren't).

A 1st round pick is a non-starter. Especially now that it looks like free agency is going to be pushed back a few years.

We can't afford to give you good roster players. We can't afford to give you good prospects.

So it's really a handful of not much for Luongo. If that doesn't get it done (and I'm not saying it will), then so be it. Vancouver can start the season (whenever that happens) with two #1s in the stable.

Leafs can start with Reimer and Scrivens, or someone else.

But drop the idea that the Leafs need Luongo badly - our current #1 centre is Tyler Bozak. It's not going to be a Stanley Cup season, so there really isn't a pressing need to get a #1 goalie.
- Atomic Wedgie

If that is the line in the sand. Good luck with with your current goaltending.

Yeah that's it


How was your month ban? Oh second ID .I get it wink wink .We won't tell anyone.
- VANTEL

By second ID do you mean only ID?

Exactly. I think it goes

Schneider
Hank
Luongo
Daniel
Raymond
Ballard
Kesler
Booth
- walshyleafsfan1

Sdin
sedin
luongo
kesler
schneids

Take off your troll hat for two minutes. Why do you care how much Vancouver spends on our goalies. What does this have to do with Toronto?

Luongo is not going there, so really why come in here and talk the same BS day after day?

Burke and Gillis have broken off talks so why? Ian should be banned for starting troll wars .

I have said it for weeks now there is no chance this happens, but if Vancouver does spend 9.3 mil on two goalies that get us to the top of the league then why the fuuck should you care? How does this affect your team.
- VANTEL

In reality you have no idea where Luongo goes, neither do I. holier than thou attitude is sub par my man

Sure, and as they're saying, a lot of Canuck fans will also be surprised by the return. I agree it will cut a middle ground, and given the leaf's precarious cap situation, I'd count on money coming back to Van.
- Morris

I agree but the $ coming back has to be a serviceable player and Komi isn't.
I still think it's Flo. thou.

Sure, and as they're saying, a lot of Canuck fans will also be surprised by the return. I agree it will cut a middle ground, and given the leaf's precarious cap situation, I'd count on money coming back to Van.
- Morris

I think there have been some Leaf players that Canuck fans have brought up that would be fair like Bozak, Franson, Ashton ect, but Leaf fans right away dismiss it and go with Connelly, Lombardi, Komi ext.

Why is everyone so concerned about the Canucks starting or even going a whole year with 2 very good goalies on their roster?

I think there have been some Leaf players that Canuck fans have brought up that would be fair like Bozak, Franson, Ashton ect, but Leaf fans right away dismiss it and go with Connelly, Lombardi, Komi ext.
- fiveandagame

I definitely wouldn't hang up the phone at this point...

And by the way, nobody actually thinks anyone would take Lombardi.

Why is everyone so concerned about the Canucks starting or even going a whole year with 2 very good goalies on their roster?
- hankthetank

Because in every other case in hockey history where a team has tried this, it has turned into a giant poo show.

Why is everyone so concerned about the Canucks starting or even going a whole year with 2 very good goalies on their roster?
- hankthetank

I wouldn't mind it one bit. Luongo at the TDL would be very sought after.

I think there have been some Leaf players that Canuck fans have brought up that would be fair like Bozak, Franson, Ashton ect, but Leaf fans right away dismiss it and go with Connelly, Lombardi, Komi ext.
- fiveandagame

A good middle ground from my perspective is Kulemin.

Something like Kulemin and Ashton for Luongo and Raymond.

Take off your troll hat for two minutes. Why do you care how much Vancouver spends on our goalies. What does this have to do with Toronto?

Luongo is not going there, so really why come in here and talk the same BS day after day?

Burke and Gillis have broken off talks so why? Ian should be banned for starting troll wars .

I have said it for weeks now there is no chance this happens, but if Vancouver does spend 9.3 mil on two goalies that get us to the top of the league then why the fuuck should you care? How does this affect your team.
- VANTEL

Come on VANTEL, nobody is trolling here and you know it. So quit throwing out the baseless accusations.

I really don't care how much Vancouver spends on their goalies, but can you really argue that having $5M sitting on your bench makes complete sense and is an ideal situation for the Canucks? As far as burying Luongo or shipping him over to Sweden, we both know that's horse poop and maybe YOU should stop "coming in here and talking the same BS day after day!"

Secondly, why do Vancouver fans care about Toronto's goal tending situation? Because you think the Leafs/Burke are desperate and the Canucks have the answer by way of getting a poopty contract off their hands in the process?

As for the same BS everyday, maybe you should talk to Esplen about trying to be a little more "creative" with his topic selection. This is what's placed before us, so this is generally what's going to be discussed? Get it?

Why is everyone so concerned about the Canucks starting or even going a whole year with 2 very good goalies on their roster?
- hankthetank

Because the one that want's out publicly got (frank)ed by the fans, management said "WE (frank)ING WANT YOU FOR 6+YEARS HERE IS A MONSTER CONTRACT"

Then they renegged and the player wants out...so in the end Vancouver Obliges because the cap hit (frank)ing blows and they want to sign a great new shiny toy in 2013.

The End

Because in every other case in hockey history where a team has tried this, it has turned into a giant poo show.
- Atomic Wedgie

Good point. It worked out pretty bad for the Bruins when they won the Cup.

I wouldn't mind it one bit. Luongo at the TDL would be very sought after.
- fiveandagame

Luongo won't sit to the trade deadline, get real the guy has an ego like ed belfour, it isnt his fault the canucks (frank)ed him in the playoffs.

Luongo=red bull with wings= get me the (frank) outa here

I definitely wouldn't hang up the phone at this point...

And by the way, nobody actually thinks anyone would take Lombardi.
- Atomic Wedgie

I don't think any one expects the Leafs to blow up their roster for Luongo but there has to some value in return. Contract aside. Luongo is an impact player that can make a differnce.

I can only speak for one Leafs fan (although the best looking, smartest one with the best dog).

I would like to see Luongo on the Leafs this year: if the price is right.

And that's a very low price.

Like a Komi, D'Amigo and a 3rd kinda price.

Is he a good goalie? Yes.

Is he top 5? In my opinion, no.

Is his contract as bad as many say? Once again, in my opinion, no.

But let's make no mistake about it: most teams don't like the idea of being on the hook for an extra $7 million, when you run the very real risk of the guy not being able to do it anymore.

The Leafs can assume this risk; it's just money. But there really aren't any other franchises around that are willing to do this: the Rangers have no interest, neither does Philly, nor does the Habs. Florida isn't willing to assume this financial risk (sorry, but they aren't).

A 1st round pick is a non-starter. Especially now that it looks like free agency is going to be pushed back a few years.

We can't afford to give you good roster players. We can't afford to give you good prospects.

So it's really a handful of not much for Luongo. If that doesn't get it done (and I'm not saying it will), then so be it. Vancouver can start the season (whenever that happens) with two #1s in the stable.

Leafs can start with Reimer and Scrivens, or someone else.

But drop the idea that the Leafs need Luongo badly - our current #1 centre is Tyler Bozak. It's not going to be a Stanley Cup season, so there really isn't a pressing need to get a #1 goalie.
- Atomic Wedgie

I never said that the Leafs need Luongo, only that all the fans that pretend that they wouldn't like to see Lu in the blue and white are kidding themselves. If I'm Gillis and I want to move Lu, and Burke really does want to upgrade at the goal position, then I find a way to make it work. The negotiations work to address each teams specific needs in a way that leaves both parties happy in the end. We currently have Sedin, Kelser, Malholtra, Lapiere as our centres, but Malholtra and Lapiere are both, seemingly, 4th line players. So addressing our third line C position is a need. Toronto needs an offensive minded centre to play with Kessel/Lupul. I wonder if Schroeder were playing between those two guys what kind of a season he could have as a rookie? Would he be an upgrade over Bozak? Who knows, but this is the type of conversations I would be having. Luongo out and Komisarek in makes this team worse, not better. D'Amigo is a decent prospect with some offensive skill, but he is likely 7th or 8th on the depth chart for LW in our system, so he would more than likely be Chicago bound. A third is potentially a solid NHL player, if unspectacular, like Hansen for Van, not bad. Basically, acquiring Luongo addresses a specific need for the Leafs, an upgrade to a key position, but nothing in your offer does anything to help the Canucks in the near future, let alone this season, why would they even consider it?

Looks like I'm late to the party, you gotta give us a heads up about these Leafs blogs Ian!


Seriously though, maybe we HB posters can come to a consensus agreement on a Luongo-Toronto trade and fax it over the Gillis and Burke.

Why? Is playoff hockey too intense for you?
- fiveandagame

I wouldn't know