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fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Aug 14 @ 2:31 PM ET
1st off you have no idea

2nd off you have no idea

3rdly, seriously man, were not part of any negotiations and neither you or I have any real idea of what the (frank) is going on right now.

So really you and this conjecture is moot, lets stick to biased team fan based unrealistic trades......

- MindFr3eak


By that same logic how can fans say that Luongo is not worth a bag of pucks? Leaf fans come into the Canucks thread all the time and "establish" Luongo's value. Like you said none of us have a fuking clue what he is going to fetch in this trade.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 14 @ 2:33 PM ET
Yup, a $5M+ back-up makes complete sense. I think you guys should totally do that!
- As_I_See_It



Take off your troll hat for two minutes. Why do you care how much Vancouver spends on our goalies. What does this have to do with Toronto?

Luongo is not going there, so really why come in here and talk the same BS day after day?

Burke and Gillis have broken off talks so why? Ian should be banned for starting troll wars .

I have said it for weeks now there is no chance this happens, but if Vancouver does spend 9.3 mil on two goalies that get us to the top of the league then why the fuuck should you care? How does this affect your team.
walshyleafsfan1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd rather have Kassian than H, PEI
Joined: 01.11.2012

Aug 14 @ 2:34 PM ET
Take off your troll hat for two minutes. Why do you care how much Vancouver spends on our goalies. What does this have to do with Toronto?

Luongo is not going there, so really why come in here and talk the same BS day after day?

Burke and Gillis have broken off talks so why? Ian should be banned for starting troll wars .

I have said it for weeks now there is no chance this happens, but if Vancouver does spend 9.3 mil on two goalies that get us to the top of the league then why the fuuck should you care? How does this affect your team.

- VANTEL



Oooooooooh Moody.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 14 @ 2:36 PM ET
Oooooooooh Moody.
- walshyleafsfan1

Same crap different day
walshyleafsfan1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd rather have Kassian than H, PEI
Joined: 01.11.2012

Aug 14 @ 2:36 PM ET
Same crap different day
- VANTEL

Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 14 @ 2:37 PM ET
Take off your troll hat for two minutes. Why do you care how much Vancouver spends on our goalies. What does this have to do with Toronto?

Luongo is not going there, so really why come in here and talk the same BS day after day?

Burke and Gillis have broken off talks so why? Ian should be banned for starting troll wars .

I have said it for weeks now there is no chance this happens, but if Vancouver does spend 9.3 mil on two goalies that get us to the top of the league then why the fuuck should you care? How does this affect your team.

- VANTEL

Hey little buddy, don't get upset at us.

You clearly stated that if the best offer that the Canucks got was a bad contract coming back the other way, they would just send Luongo off to Sweden.

Which means he would have to clear waivers first.

Well, it's now mid-August, and apparently there hasn't been a good offer.

So a top 5 goalie in the league, 3rd best player on the Canucks last year, and right now your most viable plan is putting him through waivers, and if he clears loaning him to the SEL?

You need to get your story straight before you come on here and start posting.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Aug 14 @ 2:37 PM ET
Take off your troll hat for two minutes. Why do you care how much Vancouver spends on our goalies. What does this have to do with Toronto?

Luongo is not going there, so really why come in here and talk the same BS day after day?

Burke and Gillis have broken off talks so why? Ian should be banned for starting troll wars .

I have said it for weeks now there is no chance this happens, but if Vancouver does spend 9.3 mil on two goalies that get us to the top of the league then why the fuuck should you care? How does this affect your team.

- VANTEL


It's called being butt hurt that the Canucks have 2 goalies capable of winning a game and the Leafs have none. Luongo is going to look pretty good when Reimer and Scrievens are giving up 5 a game. He will look a hell of lot better then Komi and a 3rd.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 14 @ 2:40 PM ET
Hey little buddy, don't get upset at us.

You clearly stated that if the best offer that the Canucks got was a bad contract coming back the other way, they would just send Luongo off to Sweden.

Which means he would have to clear waivers first.

Well, it's now mid-August, and apparently there hasn't been a good offer.

So a top 5 goalie in the league, 3rd best player on the Canucks last year, and right now your most viable plan is putting him through waivers, and if he clears loaning him to the SEL?

You need to get your story straight before you come on here and start posting.

- Atomic Wedgie



Why?

Regardless of who started what ,why do you care how much Canucks spend on their goalies?
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Aug 14 @ 2:41 PM ET
Why?

Regardless of who started what why do you care how much Canucks spend on their goalies?

- VANTEL

From my perspective it's interesting because it's just really, really, ridiculously out of the ordinary. Like never anything close to it in the history of the NHL out of the ordinary. Especially because one of them has demanded a trade. There's nothing wrong with it, but it's a huge deal in terms of what's normal.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 14 @ 2:42 PM ET
It's called being butt hurt that the Canucks have 2 goalies capable of winning a game and the Leafs have none. Luongo is going to look pretty good when Reimer and Scrievens are giving up 5 a game. He will look a hell of lot better then Komi and a 3rd.
- fiveandagame



I agree .Canucks do not have to do anything. If Gillis gave Luongo up for Komi a lot of fans would be screaming for him to be fired. I think Vancouver fans are accepting the fact that Canucks may start with both goalies.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 14 @ 2:43 PM ET
Why?

Regardless of who started what ,why do you care how much Canucks spend on their goalies?

- VANTEL


He would have to clear waivers first, at least under the current CBA. Only answering that question, I got your point all along.

These TML fans all want Luongo, they just can't admit it. If they didn't, they would be someplace else.
billyberg10
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: HEAVEN
Joined: 09.27.2011

Aug 14 @ 2:43 PM ET
Take off your troll hat for two minutes. Why do you care how much Vancouver spends on our goalies. What does this have to do with Toronto?

Luongo is not going there, so really why come in here and talk the same BS day after day?

Burke and Gillis have broken off talks so why? Ian should be banned for starting troll wars .

I have said it for weeks now there is no chance this happens, but if Vancouver does spend 9.3 mil on two goalies that get us to the top of the league then why the fuuck should you care? How does this affect your team.

- VANTEL



Somebody needs a hug


how about you settle for Komisarek and a high five
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 14 @ 2:44 PM ET
Why?

Regardless of who started what ,why do you care how much Canucks spend on their goalies?

- VANTEL

Why?

Because that's the rules.

And I don't care how much the Canucks spend on their goalies.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 14 @ 2:45 PM ET
From my perspective it's interesting because it's just really, really, ridiculously out of the ordinary. Like never anything close to it in the history of the NHL out of the ordinary. Especially because one of them has demanded a trade. There's nothing wrong with it, but it's a huge deal in terms of what's normal.
- Morris



There are about 4 other teams that have around the same amount invested in the 2 goalies .So that part is not that unusual.

Luongo is under contract . The best thing he can do is shut his mouth and play ,or else he will be sent to an unpleasant team.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Aug 14 @ 2:45 PM ET
He would have to clear waivers first, at least under the current CBA. Only answering that question, I got your point all along.

These TML fans all want Luongo, they just can't admit it. If they didn't, they would be someplace else.

- 1970vintage

They absolutely want Luongo, just like you guys would prefer to trade Luongo. They just want to do it at a good price, just like you guys do.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 14 @ 2:45 PM ET
Why?

Because that's the rules.

And I don't care how much the Canucks spend on their goalies.

- Atomic Wedgie


Then stop bringing it up and stop worrying about our team.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Aug 14 @ 2:47 PM ET
I agree .Canucks do not have to do anything. If Gillis gave Luongo up for Komi a lot of fans would be screaming for him to be fired. I think Vancouver fans are accepting the fact that Canucks may start with both goalies.
- VANTEL


I think Luongo is going to Florida and the deal will be finalized after Doan makes up his mind.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Aug 14 @ 2:47 PM ET
He would have to clear waivers first, at least under the current CBA. Only answering that question, I got your point all along.

These TML fans all want Luongo, they just can't admit it. If they didn't, they would be someplace else.

- 1970vintage[/
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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 14 @ 2:48 PM ET
He would have to clear waivers first, at least under the current CBA. Only answering that question, I got your point all along.

These TML fans all want Luongo, they just can't admit it. If they didn't, they would be someplace else.

- 1970vintage



No problem then he should clear waivers easily then because no one wants a goalie for 10 years at 5.3 per.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 14 @ 2:48 PM ET
They absolutely want Luongo, just like you guys would prefer to trade Luongo. They just want to do it at a good price, just like you guys do.
- Morris


The thing that makes all this ridiculous is that most of the trade proposals do nothing to satisfy each team's needs. I have posted my perspective in the past, not really interested in spending the time to rehash it once again.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 14 @ 2:49 PM ET
I think Luongo is going to Florida and the deal will be finalized after Doan makes up his mind.
- fiveandagame

I agree .
walshyleafsfan1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd rather have Kassian than H, PEI
Joined: 01.11.2012

Aug 14 @ 2:49 PM ET
He would have to clear waivers first, at least under the current CBA. Only answering that question, I got your point all along.

These TML fans all want Luongo, they just can't admit it. If they didn't, they would be someplace else.

- 1970vintage


I can promise you hand on heart, swear on my life.I don't want Luongo. I promise you.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Aug 14 @ 2:51 PM ET
They absolutely want Luongo, just like you guys would prefer to trade Luongo. They just want to do it at a good price, just like you guys do.
- Morris


They all want Luongo becasue they know he could be a difference maker but they don't want to pay for him at all and they justify that lack of payment by always bringing up his contract. IF (and that is a big if) he goes to Toronto, I think the majority of Leaf fans are going to be surprised by the return. It will not be Gardnier, Reilly and 1st, but it will be a hell of lot better then a salary dump and a mid round pick.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Aug 14 @ 2:51 PM ET
No problem then he should clear waivers easily then because no one wants a goalie for 10 years at 5.3 per.
- VANTEL

Then sweden it is
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Aug 14 @ 2:51 PM ET
There are about 4 other teams that have around the same amount invested in the 2 goalies .So that part is not that unusual.

Luongo is under contract . The best thing he can do is shut his mouth and play ,or else he will be sent to an unpleasant team.

- VANTEL

You don't think there's any difference between having one elite starter making starter level money and one nhl backup making nhl backup money, and having two starters making starter level money? It's not all about contract dollars, it's about having two highly paid starters on the same roster who both want to start!
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