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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 13 @ 8:54 AM ET
If coburn is running a PP. he will be tanked by seasons end. Give MAB a shot at it
- Just5


Why will he be tanked?
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Aug 13 @ 9:00 AM ET
Bouwmeester would add some much needed offense on the blue line and plays 25 minutes a night.
- bradleyc4

He'd fit ok and no doubt improve the back line, but that salary cap hit sucks and what would it cost to get him?
I've heard a top six forward + a first rounder.
Too steep for me.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 13 @ 9:01 AM ET
He'd fit ok and no doubt improve the back line, but that salary cap hit sucks and what would it cost to get him?
I've heard a top six forward + a first rounder.
Too steep for me.

- Marc D


I agree. I'd much rather see what we got. And make a move at the deadline if need be.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Aug 13 @ 9:01 AM ET
How do you know MAB can't handle a PP unit? The game is played on the ice.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Aug 13 @ 9:02 AM ET
Bouwmeester would add some much needed offense on the blue line and plays 25 minutes a night.
- bradleyc4

at what cost to acquire?
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Aug 13 @ 9:03 AM ET
Bouwmeester would add some much needed offense on the blue line and plays 25 minutes a night.
- bradleyc4


I am a very big fan of J.Bo since his days with the Panthers. I think on the right team he will quickly return to his previous form. But, he is going to prove very pricey. I do not think the Flyers will want to offer up a top prospect.

Without bringing in a guy who can log the 25 minutes a game I believe the Flyers will face some real problems in their own end. Bryzgalov is a fragile piece even with a strong D playing in front of him. It could be that the Flyers struggle and, perhaps, even miss the playoffs without an upgrade in their defensive roster. But, it is better to take their time. Come Christmas there will be some very good Dmen who will suddenly become available.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 13 @ 9:03 AM ET
How do you know MAB can't handle a PP unit? The game is played on the ice.
- Just5


I don't know. But as Bill said in his blog, you have a player that is trying to establish himself in the NHL. He made a big leap last year just to put himself in the mix. One of the best ways to ruin a young defenseman is to put too much on him. Let him just focus on playing a solid 5 on 5 role. And let other players with more experience shoulder the bigger load.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Aug 13 @ 9:04 AM ET
I wouldn't be surprised to see Kimmo and Coburn matched up either. Depends on the health of both Timonen and Grossman.
- bradleyc4


If it were the Jay Bouwmeester that played in Florida then I'd say definitely but I am far from sold on the player who has been suiting up for Calgary the last three years.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 13 @ 9:05 AM ET
I am a very big fan of J.Bo since his days with the Panthers. I think on the right team he will quickly return to his previous form. But, he is going to prove very pricey. I do not think the Flyers will want to offer up a top prospect.

Without bringing in a guy who can log the 25 minutes a game I believe the Flyers will face some real problems in their own end. Bryzgalov is a fragile piece even with a strong D playing in front of him. It could be that the Flyers struggle and, perhaps, even miss the playoffs without an upgrade in their defensive roster. But, it is better to take their time. Come Christmas there will be some very good Dmen who will suddenly become available.

- spatso


I disagree that Bryzgalov is fragile. To deal with that he had to deal with last year, to get his game back on track after that. Shows how strong he is in my opinion. A lot of players would have never come back from that.

And in my opinion the Flyers are a playoff team as is.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Aug 13 @ 9:06 AM ET
I agree. I'd much rather see what we got. And make a move at the deadline if need be.
- MJL

I wouldn't mind J Bo but realistically I think they'd have to trade Read/Simmonds plus a first. That's too steep in my opinion.

PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 13 @ 9:10 AM ET
This defense core is in tatters.

PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 13 @ 9:11 AM ET
Anyone who questioned why Lilja was signed to a two year deal looks foolish today.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Aug 13 @ 9:11 AM ET
at what cost to acquire?
- isaiah520


I want that type of player. You're not going to get him via free agency (even next off-season), so it would have to come via trade.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Aug 13 @ 9:13 AM ET
I want that type of player. You're not going to get him via free agency (even next off-season), so it would have to come via trade.
- bradleyc4

i'd rather trade for a different player, but we do need that type of plyr
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 13 @ 9:15 AM ET
I believe it was Confucius who said, "Every new beginning comes from some other beginning's end."
- feelingkettle

pretty sure that was semisonic
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 13 @ 9:18 AM ET
Fantasy idea of the day...

Say (against all odds) the Flyers ended up signing Doan... Would anybody be opposed to shipping a guy (maybe Simmonds, +?) off for a young D-man RFA like Subban?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 13 @ 9:18 AM ET
Todays Theme On Hockeybuzz!

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MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 13 @ 9:18 AM ET
pretty sure that was semisonic
- jak521


beat me to it!
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Aug 13 @ 9:19 AM ET
I want that type of player. You're not going to get him via free agency (even next off-season), so it would have to come via trade.
- bradleyc4

If they trade a top six forward plus their first pick next year in what is supposed to be a very good draft for JBo then the decision not to resign Matt Carle will look terrible. I know they did not want to give him the contract he got from Tampa, but I'd much rather have Carle back, keep my top six forward and first rounder over getting J Bo.

I know the deal for JBo is speculative, and there was no way to predict the Mezzy injury, but it still looks bad to me if this is how it plays out.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 13 @ 9:20 AM ET
I want that type of player. You're not going to get him via free agency (even next off-season), so it would have to come via trade.
- bradleyc4

If im making a trade with cgy for a d-man.. its Giordano that I want coming back..
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Aug 13 @ 9:20 AM ET
Anyone who questioned why Lilja was signed to a two year deal looks foolish today.
- PLindbergh31


They were trying to unload him though and now he's hurt so...
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 13 @ 9:21 AM ET
Anyone who questioned why Lilja was signed to a two year deal looks foolish today.
- PLindbergh31


Really, how so?

I'm guessing your reasoning is that this injury is really going to kill the team cap wise. Or something something something......I guess...


jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 13 @ 9:21 AM ET
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- MBFlyerfan

Is he that promising Finish kid?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 13 @ 9:23 AM ET
Really, how so?

I'm guessing your reasoning is that this injury is really going to kill the team cap wise. Or something something something......I guess...

- MBFlyerfan


It's a dead contract slot until what December at least?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 13 @ 9:23 AM ET
If they trade a top six forward plus their first pick next year in what is supposed to be a very good draft for JBo then the decision not to resign Matt Carle will look terrible. I know they did not want to give him the contract he got from Tampa, but I'd much rather have Carle back, keep my top six forward and first rounder over getting J Bo.

I know the deal for JBo is speculative, and there was no way to predict the Mezzy injury, but it still looks bad to me if this is how it plays out.

- Marc D

I think they should sign CC and call it a day..

Timonen-Coburn
Grossmann-CC
Schenn-Gus/MaB/Gervais

These are just thrown together.. no rhyme or reason.
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