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Forums :: Blog World :: Richard Cloutier: Stop the Lockout 2012
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Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Aug 12 @ 9:12 PM ET
How about those who support the cause demand that Gary Bettman be replaced. Not being on any side but three lockouts under you as the commish shouldn't be accepted by anyone
- bobert836



He is hired by the owners...the fans have ZERO to do with Bettman getting fired. He has full support of his bosses and is going nowhere. When will people get it through their thick heads that you can hate Bettmen all you want, but he is doing exactly what the owners want.
oil90
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ON
Joined: 12.05.2010

Aug 12 @ 9:13 PM ET
I may be new posting here but I cant help but feel this is all created by Clouts so that people will follow him on twitter and this new website he is creating...nonetheless he is right and the fans should stick it to the league and players if there is a lockout...ITS GO TIME,I'M ALL IN!!!
Richard Cloutier
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 07.30.2008

Aug 12 @ 9:16 PM ET
I may be new posting here but I cant help but feel this is all created by Clouts so that people will follow him on twitter and this new website he is creating...nonetheless he is right and the fans should stick it to the league and players if there is a lockout...ITS GO TIME,I'M ALL IN!!!
- oil90


Actually, if the Hockeybuzz people want to create and run a site on this subject, they'd have my full support. I would advocate for them tirelessly.

This isn't about me. It's about hockey fans telling the players and the owners we've had enough of this. I had yet to see anyone else on Twitter creating a protest action with respect to this, so I took the bull by the horns.
keatondixon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: My comments express my views and Eklund's views ...everything I say Eklund agrees with 100%
Joined: 12.11.2008

Aug 12 @ 9:35 PM ET
Creating a petition on twitter or boycotting anything to deal with the NHL does absolutely nothing...the NHL doesn't care about you and the NHLPA doesn't care about you ...get with it.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Aug 12 @ 9:39 PM ET
Creating a petition on twitter or boycotting anything to deal with the NHL does absolutely nothing...the NHL doesn't care about you and the NHLPA doesn't care about you ...get with it.
- keatondixon



Thread killer...
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Aug 12 @ 9:41 PM ET
I blame Americans.... ...Ruining Hockey and Olympics...
AlEx_OiL
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Machu Picchu, AB
Joined: 02.28.2011

Aug 12 @ 9:43 PM ET
Creating a petition on twitter or boycotting anything to deal with the NHL does absolutely nothing...the NHL doesn't care about you and the NHLPA doesn't care about you ...get with it.
- keatondixon



The Media is Power but unfortunately Hockeybuzz is NOT consider a Real News Media but for Clouts idea to even get any attention from a Real Media All the Bloggers needs to do the same here,Twitter etc.
Ben37
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: One of the Most Respected Hockeybuzz Posters, AB
Joined: 04.07.2010

Aug 12 @ 9:43 PM ET
Creating a petition on twitter or boycotting anything to deal with the NHL does absolutely nothing...the NHL doesn't care about you and the NHLPA doesn't care about you ...get with it.
- keatondixon


But they do care about the almighty dollar. And what happens if the fans decide that they don't want a lockout and choose not to pay for tickets, merchandise and the other goods that line the pockets of the owners.
ShooterMcGavin
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Stolen Colon, AB
Joined: 02.26.2011

Aug 12 @ 9:49 PM ET
The Media is Power but unfortunately Hockeybuzz is NOT consider a Real News Media but for Clouts idea to even get any attention from a Real Media All the Bloggers needs to do the same here,Twitter etc.
- AlEx_OiL

God you're annoying
AlEx_OiL
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Machu Picchu, AB
Joined: 02.28.2011

Aug 12 @ 9:52 PM ET
God you're annoying
- ShooterMcGavin


God you're annoying....you sound delicate.
keatondixon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: My comments express my views and Eklund's views ...everything I say Eklund agrees with 100%
Joined: 12.11.2008

Aug 12 @ 9:57 PM ET
But they do care about the almighty dollar. And what happens if the fans decide that they don't want a lockout and choose not to pay for tickets, merchandise and the other goods that line the pockets of the owners.
- Ben37

Would never happen ...people can say they won't buy tickets and merch but at the end of the day they will no matter what.
Richard Cloutier
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 07.30.2008

Aug 12 @ 9:59 PM ET
The Media is Power but unfortunately Hockeybuzz is NOT consider a Real News Media but for Clouts idea to even get any attention from a Real Media All the Bloggers needs to do the same here,Twitter etc.
- AlEx_OiL


If what you're saying is if bloggers all get behind this, maybe the mainstream media will get behind it too, then I'd say I agree.
AlEx_OiL
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Machu Picchu, AB
Joined: 02.28.2011

Aug 12 @ 10:18 PM ET
If what you're saying is if bloggers all get behind this, maybe the mainstream media will get behind it too, then I'd say I agree.
- Maxbone


kylkri
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: castleton, ON
Joined: 08.07.2010

Aug 12 @ 10:22 PM ET
Its pretty sad that its come to this. The players sign the best deal available, these ridiculous salaries/ contracts are the owners fault. If the owners want to pay less and have less length in contract, don't sign the deals. 10 years until UFA? essentially locking the players in the owners control for the players prime. It seems a bit much. I think 4 - 6 is reasonable. NHLPA is like any union, they dont want to give up rights that have been granted to them. Its too bad that the players and owners don't give a sh*t about hockey, just profit.

That being said a boycott isnt a bad idea. We need to send a clear message to the NHL/ nhlpa that lockouts and threats of lockouts are unacceptable. One thing that could attract the mainstream media is by using alternative media like facebook and twitter. We just need to make sure that anything on facebook is one united rallycry rather than multiple unanswered ones.
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 12 @ 10:25 PM ET
Can't change the world if you don't try.

I get sick of laying down and taking abuse from people after a while. What about you? Do you feel like you deserve the NHL lockout? Or are you willing to stand up and just say no for a change?

- Maxbone

Changing this world, is boycotting all NHL merchandise, staying away from the games and not watching them on television. You have to hurt them in the pocketbook, to make a lasting impression. We all went running back, after the last lockout. They didn't pay any price for their treatment of the fans. If you want to change the world, stay away!
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 12 @ 10:27 PM ET
This world is a mess cause of one thing. MONEY. Money leads to almost every B.S thing that happens on this earth and this is the only reason why there is talk of a potential lockout. I understand it's what makes this world run but its the only thing that matters anymore to people. When will someone with as much power such as Bettman show a signifigant act of selflessness. I dont want to sit on my ass and complain about another NHL lockout. I am a proud, loving die-hard fan of the game of hockey and Im not just going to watch the NHL go down into hell
- OilerFanFromBC

You don't have a choice, unless you buy every franchise and go it alone. We are just the cow that gets milked, year in and year out. You can love the game, but at the end of the day, it's about dollars and how many they can vacuum out of your wallet.
keatondixon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: My comments express my views and Eklund's views ...everything I say Eklund agrees with 100%
Joined: 12.11.2008

Aug 12 @ 10:28 PM ET
If what you're saying is if bloggers all get behind this, maybe the mainstream media will get behind it too, then I'd say I agree.
- Maxbone

Nothing will change...the owners could careless if there is a season especially considering most of them lose money even when there is a season...don't even waste your time with this because you can't change a thing
thew2589
San Jose Sharks
Location: bay area, CA
Joined: 01.25.2011

Aug 12 @ 10:30 PM ET
Count me in!!!! I'm gonna be pissed if there is another lock out!
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 12 @ 10:36 PM ET
Nothing will change...the owners could careless if there is a season especially considering most of them lose money even when there is a season...don't even waste your time with this because you can't change a thing
- keatondixon

If the top 10 teams in the league, wanted to send a message to the players, they'd just say OK, we'll give you the same deal, but we're going to stop revenue sharing and we're going to contract the league by 10 teams. You may get your deal, but 33% of you, will be playing elsewhere, next year. The top teams are already revenue sharing the bottom 10 teams every year in the 10's of millions of dollars. Just buy them out and be done with them. Better yet, cancel revenue sharing and let them move or fold. I wonder how the players would like having complete franchises moved, with their families in tow? Time to give them the ultimatum and make them squirm.
AlEx_OiL
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Machu Picchu, AB
Joined: 02.28.2011

Aug 12 @ 10:40 PM ET
Nothing will change...the owners could careless if there is a season especially considering most of them lose money even when there is a season...don't even waste your time with this because you can't change a thing
- keatondixon


Don't Waste your time here and go bend over to the Flyers players and Owner.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Aug 12 @ 10:40 PM ET
I'll save you all some time. I'll call Bettman and the NHLPA in a couple of weeks and get all of this sh1t taken care of.
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 12 @ 10:48 PM ET
If what you're saying is if bloggers all get behind this, maybe the mainstream media will get behind it too, then I'd say I agree.
- Maxbone

Richard, Richard, Richard. I have a friend, who is a world renowned Canadian author, Order of Canada recipient. We talk politics, because that is one of his forte's. I said to him, The press in North America pretty much decides who becomes Prime Minister or President. He turned to me and said, John....the press has always decided who would be Prime Minister and President. My point being, the press has their own agenda, when covering sports. It's like politics and it earns them a living. You have huge media conglomerates, that own sports franchises and multiple ones at that. Their objective is to maximize their return on investment. If it means destroying a season, to get what they want, they'll do it. They'll spin the 24 hour news cycle to apply pressure at certain parts of the negotiations. They know what their profit floor is and they know where earnings have to be. It will be the media, in the end, that will decide what the final arrangements will be. The fans, like the citizenry in Politics, have no say in how things will be, in regards to a settlement.
Yak T
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 11.09.2009

Aug 12 @ 10:50 PM ET
Fear of a lockout is the best time to upgrade your season seats!
Killbot460
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Compton, AB
Joined: 08.06.2010

Aug 12 @ 10:50 PM ET
I'd join.. but I'm not cool enough to have twitter. Or to post pics of my self in the mirror
MikeyOz
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Melbourne
Joined: 11.22.2006

Aug 12 @ 10:58 PM ET
While I think the players are paid too much as well, in reality they are NOT paid too much, they are getting paid what is market value because the OWNER's were willing to part with the money, they are the one's that have started using the massively loaded contracts for 10+ years, that is not the players fault. The lockout is inevitable, only a miracle will save the season, because from the sounds of it the divide is Grand Canyon size.

I see both sides of the argument, but I always tend to be with the Owners because they are forking out the money and putting their money on the line while the players just get to play hockey for a lot of money. They are still going to be pretty well paid in a pretty BAD econonic climate, if they want more money, then start their own competition and put up their own money.
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